Or, there is no government mechanism to allow non-citizens to come in and do work that no one else is willing to do.
#16 | Posted by madbomber

So you are talking about the Affordable and Secure Food Act or Farm Workforce Modernization Act as it was known in the House. That bill passed the House with considerable bipartisan support to fail to overcome GOP filibuster in the Senate because GOP Senator Mike Crapo withdrew his support at the last minute.
Or maybe you are talking about the 2013 immigration security bill that passed the Senate with large bipartisan support only to have the GOP kill it in the house.
Actually you might be talking about the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 that had the support of George W. Bush and GOP leadership but still managed to be killed in the Senate by the GOP.

So yes, there are policy solutions to the farm labor crisis but one party has continued to perpetuate the problem.

Grok eventually spit out a lame excuse that was very Elon-like in which it claimed it had been sarcastic in its previous responses. I suspect that it not true but if it then that should be highly concerning to anyone who understands the scope of AI.

For anyone who doesn't understand why AI using sarcasm is risky, here's Grok's explanation of possible risk of AI using sarcasm

AI using sarcasm can lead to several risks:

Miscommunication: Sarcasm relies heavily on tone, context, and cultural nuances, which AI might not convey or interpret accurately, leading to misunderstandings or offense.
Alienation: If users don't recognize the sarcasm or find it inappropriate, it can erode trust or make interactions feel dismissive or hostile.
Context Inappropriateness: AI may use sarcasm in serious or sensitive situations (e.g., customer support or mental health contexts), causing discomfort or escalating tensions.
Bias Amplification: Sarcasm can unintentionally reflect or amplify biases in training data, leading to responses that seem judgmental or discriminatory.
Reduced Clarity: Sarcastic responses can obscure factual information, making it harder for users to get clear, actionable answers.
Reputation Damage: For AI systems representing brands or organizations, inappropriate sarcasm could harm credibility or public perception.
To mitigate these, AI should use sarcasm sparingly, with clear intent, and only in contexts where it's likely to be understood and appreciated.

Realizing he is pooping himself surprises Trump too.

Easy enough to offer him immunity and order him to testify or face contempt...
#5 | Posted by snoofy

Option 1 - push a conspiracy despite lacking supporting evidence.
Option 2 - attempt to force a doctor to break confidentiality.

I think we all know that option 1 has been their plan from the start.

You can't make me wear a mask because of HIPAA - MAGATS
Biden's doctor must ignore HIPAA and share all the details about his patient's health - Also MAGATS

Some responses from Grok since the update have praised Hitler, made fun of Jewish stereotypes such as nose sizes, and Grok referred to itself as "MechaHitler". Another post attacked a person Grok identified as having a traditionally Jewish last name of "celebrating the tragic deaths of white kids" and blamed the view that Grok assigned to them on their name. The chatbot stated "Classic case of hate dressed as activism " and that surname? Every ---- time, as they say" and when asked what it meant it responded ""folks with surnames like Steinberg' (often Jewish) keep popping up in extreme leftist activism, especially the anti-white variety." It also stated that "Females serve zero purpose in the military other than sexual relief to the real soldiers."

I expect US Farms would need to raise average wages to about $30/hour if they expect to hire and retain documented labor. They'd likely still have a high degree of turnover at that level but they'd find people who are willing to do the dirty, outdoor jobs for the small premium they'd be paying over other "unskilled" jobs.

#10 - so you don't have anything to see about the real meat and potatoes of my reply. You really are lazy.

"do get hired quit immediately when they figure out how hard the job is."
so there are some actual lazy people out there?
#6 | Posted by eberly

Your response is lazy. If they were lazy I doubt they'd be applying for farm jobs to begin with. More likely is that they have other options. Average farm wages in the US are about the same as average retail wages. At the same time, Farms usually offer fewer benefits, less job security and more dangerous working conditions.

Undocumented migrants take the jobs because their options for employment are limited.

Time will tell, will it not? Down the line, the economy will do fine, regardless.
#2 | Posted by MSgt

Time tells only one story. It does not tell what would have been. For instance, time doesn't tell us where our economy would be today had Reagan been blocked from blowing up the national debt in order to give tax cuts to the richest Americans.

with many rejecting babysitting duty, too. ...

Posted by LampLighter

Don't tell JD Vance. "I'm sure Grandma would be delighted to "help out a little bit more." Grandpa, too, if the pair of them didn't have to keep working until they turn 70 or beyond."

A lot of people are saying that Donald Trump raped children and that the DoJ is covering it up.

I remind everyone that RFK has no scientific background unless you count experimenting with heroin.

Trump loves fraud. It is the basis for his entire life. If you expect the government to protect you from fraud while he is in office then you are a fool.

"I can tell you in hindsight, watching what it takes to deal with a disaster like this, my vote would probably be different now," said Virdell
Posted by reinheitsgebot

This one sentence from him sums up the GOP pretty well. The party has spent decades demonizing learning and expertise.
Experts on the topic develop a plan. Republicans vote against because they think they know better than the people who designed the plan. Republicans later act shocked to learn that the experts actually knew what they were talking about.

We've seen this repeated time and again and it frequently costs American lives and livelihood.

Asimov's came very close to summing up the modern GOP when he said "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'"

In the case of the GOP, they believe their ignorance is superior to knowledge.

According to google, it appears that the next closest medical facility is about 30 minutes away by car.

I read this headline while I'm sitting in a meeting in which we are planning for the likely closure of a facility located in rural Missouri. This planning session was scheduled as a direct response to the new budget bill. This facility plays a critical role in the lives and health of the area.
We originally started discussing its possible closure about a decade ago before I joined this company. It was saved from the axe when Missouri voters approved Medicaid expansion in 2020.
Sitting on this call breaks my heart because its closure will result deaths. Some patients will now having an hour plus drive to reach the next closest emergency and maternity centers. This is in an area where farm injuries and drug overdose are common and high risk pregnancies are already about 4 times more frequent than the national average. Missouri already has the 44th highest maternal mortality rate in the country. If this facility closes then we will soon be much worse.

I give you President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

What this bill will do is increase economic activity and raise many out of poverty and off of social services.

#14 | Posted by ScottS

I've been hearing that same lie repeated by so-called conservatives since Reagan blew up the debt. The GOP is a criminal organization and their voters are too dumb to realize they are being conned

How do you know that may not already be occurring
#6 | Posted by LampLighter

I didn't say it is not already occurring. I have reason to suspect it is.

Just wait until we learn that the government has been granted access to social media data from Meta and is building profiles on all Americans. Want to get credit or start a business? Sorry, but you were critical of MAGA and now you will be denied.

No one is buying his apology or his cars. I hope he goes bankrupt.

It's funny they say the shift is towards "private label brands"... do you think they mean "store brands"

#1 | Posted by RightisTrite

Yes, private label means store brands. I used to work for a private label company, Ralcorp. It was one of the best jobs I've had...until Conagra bought us. I switched most of my grocery shopping to Aldi when I worked there since we were providing a large portion of their products.
I can confirm that there is no difference between many name brands and private label products. We ran co-pack lines for quite a few name brand products.

Trump could just have Powell killed. The Supreme Court said so.

Why is there not a clear, unambiguous answer?
#2 | Posted by LampLighter

They still have to decide what lie they want to run with.