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"In retrospect, it lacked empathy."

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Tesla stock ready to sink again as Musk-Trump feud heats up and president targets first buddy's subsidies

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-- The Independent (@the-independent.com) Jul 1, 2025 at 9:41 AM

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On the one hand, Musk is probably trying to distance himself from his work at DOGE now that his bromance with president Donald Trump has devolved into a bitter feud.

But it also smacks of hypocrisy, considering that he previously complained that empathy is destroying society.

In late February, roughly a week after wielding the chainsaw on stage, Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan that "we've got civilizational suicidal empathy going on."

"The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy, the empathy exploit," he said at the time. "They're exploiting a bug in Western civilization, which is the empathy response."

The wake of chaos and destruction DOGE has left behind certainly underlines Musk's capacity to disregard the feelings of others " almost as if "cruelty is the point," as The Atlantic's Adam Serwer put it in a 2018 essay about Trump's first term.

But now that his once rosy relationship with Trump has exploded into a million pieces, metastasizing into an ugly feud rife with threats and personal attacks, Musk is trying to distance himself from his ruthless and ultimately fruitless endeavor to save the government money."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-02 10:43 PM | Reply

This is what happens when government is run by people and not a system. People are erratic and emotional. The whole point of the "deep state" is to keep things on an even keel. Instead we have chaos.

#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-07-02 11:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe he means it, maybe not. The boy who cried wolf too many times? Maybe Pinocchio? Old Grimm could spin a tale about this mess we are in.

#3 | Posted by shoeless at 2025-07-03 08:03 AM | Reply

So the richest man in the world hasn't enough intelligence to know when he's behaving like a horses's rear end?

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-03 09:58 AM | Reply

Republicans are spending trillions of dollars, but not to help Americans.

Republicans are spending trillions of dollars to hurt foreigners living in America.

The cruelty is the point.

And Republican voters are happy to pay the bill.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-03 10:42 AM | Reply

In retrospect, Musk lacks any semblance of humanity.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-03 11:11 AM | Reply

... it lacked empathy ...

But, wasn't that the reason MAGA was cheering him on?

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-03 11:50 AM | Reply

The whole point of the "deep state" is to keep things on an even keel. Instead we have chaos.

"Chaos is a ladder." Except for when it isn't.

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-07-03 12:47 PM | Reply

Narcissists always apologize when they find themselves alone.

They sound genuine, even heartfelt.

But the apology is just another lie, and they're back to the same behavior in no time.

#9 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-07-03 01:00 PM | Reply

No one is buying his apology or his cars. I hope he goes bankrupt.

#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-07-03 01:04 PM | Reply

Many Tesla drivers where I live, about a quarter of them with apologetic bumper stickers. I want to say, "He was a Nazi before he was a Trumper, fool."

#11 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-07-03 01:47 PM | Reply

Nobody even remotely associated with this gang "does" empathy.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-07-03 02:20 PM | Reply

All the moron had to do is not be a f---ing nazi and sell electric cars.

At this point, I hope he gets deported and dies by mob justice as everything his entire family owns is seized.

#13 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-07-03 03:57 PM | Reply

This is what happens when government is run by people and not a system. People are erratic and emotional. The whole point of the "deep state" is to keep things on an even keel. Instead we have chaos.
#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-07-02 11:50 PM | Reply | Flag:| Newsworthy 1

Progress is inevitable.

The "secrecy" is destroying humanity, literally and figuratively.

Free energy was being implemented in 1901. Gone. Never to be replicated.

So many disappeared inventors and re-inventions later.. Nothing changes.

THAT is the point of "deep state".

Deny the planet the capacity to care for itself and to parasitize humanity.

I feel that Musk has accidentally threatened Starshield and doesn't know how to maintain his trajectory.

Maybe even Golden Dome might omit him as a future project?

#14 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-07-03 04:40 PM | Reply

@#14 ... Free energy was being implemented in 1901. Gone. Never to be replicated. ...

They tried in the 1950's with nuclear-power being declared ~too cheap to meter.~

"Too Cheap to Meter": A History of the Phrase (2021)
www.nrc.gov


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-03 05:53 PM | Reply

Today I recieved a text message that the Supree Court had approved deportation of undocumented immigrants to Sourg Sudan! That certainly does bot indicate that our highest court has the slightest amount of empathy for undocumented immigrants who jusy want to pick the crops which we depend on for food.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2025-07-03 06:31 PM | Reply

"The whole point of the "deep state" is to keep things on an even keel. Instead we have chaos.
#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist"

Wow, so liberals now admit that the deep state exists...another 'conspiracy theory' proven correct.

#17 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-03 07:01 PM | Reply

Fuck off idiot, your puppet master is a gutless coward.

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-03 08:32 PM | Reply

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