Good....I want to see mail-in voting banned except for absentee ballots.

It's necessary for integrity of future elections.

Transporting uncounted ballots is too risky.

Ballots are crucial to a democracy.

Snoofy,

Everytime a plane crashes.

What if it was carrying hundreds of thousands of uncounted ballots.

What then?

These ballots in questions would still be uncounted. Thats the problem.

Whatever method that is used to transport them is a weak link.

If you really care about preserving democracy, this is just as important as all the other things people complain about.

Snoofy,

Except absentee ballots which are necessary for some people.

Redial,

"About the same as getting killed in a car accident on the way to a polling station."

Ok 1 vote lost or maybe a car full.

Really...thats your comeback?

Corky,

"Have you ever voted in the rain or the snow?"

Poor baby...

If we have early voting you can wait until there's a better day.

Donner,

"Maybe they could put a tracking number on the ballot so the voter can see where it is, and if it gets counted?"

And what if it comes up missing?

Now we have to reissue another ballot and then verify that the original doesn't show up.

That makes it more and more labor intensive. You have a build a ridiculous number of steps to accommodate all the possibilities.

Anything handled by humans is at risk of human error.

Nature of the beast.

Or....have early voting. You fill out a ballot and let it get read and counted before you leave the room.

Voila...done...you've voted.

Clown,

Damn...you're dense.

You're grouping people who may qualify for an absentee ballot with regular mail-in ballots.

Clown,

"It's not fair that all Americans get to vote! It should only be wealthy white men!"

Then I wouldn't get to vote.

Damn...you're dense.

You think anyone who understands the risks of mail-in ballots is automatically rich?

Laura,

"We've had mail in voting since 1775 without a problem"

Nice history lesson.

Now try multiplying that by 150 million voters and see if it still runs "without a problem."

Snoofy,

You mean "nitwit"?

Corky,

Damn....you're dense.

Who used the word "fraud"?

Snoofy,

"Show us where there have been problems."

When did I talk about past elections in this thread?

I clearly was referring to future elections.

Snoofy,

"Lazy people with low IQ who commit half the crimes"

You're digging yourself in deeper.

I hear a dog whistle.

Listen...

Redial,

"Yep. That's pretty much what they do."

Labor intensive, higher risk of errors or mishandling.

Multiple that by over a million ballots and all the offices that may not have exactly the same procedures.

Redial,

And they are f****** uncounted!

If you chose to use your brain, you'd get it.

Redial,

"Every ballot is sacred
Every ballot is great
If a ballot is wasted
God gets quite irate"

Courtesy of Monty Python.

Speak,

"You swallow every lie they feed you.
It never harmed the integrity of past elections, so why should it harm the integrity of future elections"

I was saying the same kind of stuff a month before the 2020 election.

And sure...no harm caused...unless you count a mob storming the Capitol because they were convinced the election's integrity was bogus.

Regardless how they got the idea, it was believable due to the mail-in ballots.

Sooner or later...there will come another election where mail-in ballots are the catalyst that sets off suspicion all over again.

Clown,

"Wanna talk about voter fraud?"

Not particularly.

Redial,

I'm not talking about this with you any further.

Either you don't get it or won't get it.

Dan,

"it's been five years"

America has a lot more elections ahead after you and I are both gone.

You're thinking small.

Five years is proof? Proof of what?

I'm thinking decades from now.

Mail-in ballots in their current state are insane. That is excluding legitimate absentee ballots not being misused.

There will be advances in voting technology. Hopefully bright non-partial minds will keep America on solid ground.

Laura,

"BillJohnson can't refute anything Redial says so he will take the ball and go back home. Typical BillJohnson."

At least my usual comeback isnt GFY.

I mean....talk about not having anything to say.

Dan.

"there is NO evidence supporting that."

And there is no evidence a plane or truck won't get destroyed in the future carrying f****** uncounted ballots either.

But there is evidence planes crash and vehicles catch fire and burn up.

Dan,

"And try ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE years. Where are the examples of fraudulent voting by the military??? Where are the complaints ANYONE's vote was swiped???"

Fraud?

Have I said fraud in this thread

I don't need to, to make my point.

Ok...we'll bring back the old tried and true way.

How many horses you figure we'll need?

Snoofy,

"There's no evidence there won't be mass bombings at the polling places, destroying all the uncounted ballots cast that day."

Well...I guess you're talking about people standing at a voting station filling out their ballot, when they got blowed up.

How many stations in most places? 20?

Dan,

"Link or stink"

Link or stink or think.

I fixed that for you. You're welcome.

Dan,

"Should it be made HARDER or EASIER for the legal voter to cast a legal vote?"

Easier.

That's the reason I believe all states should be required to offer early voting.

Depending on the precinct, some would offer fewer available days.

Snoofy,

"How can BillJohnson use this as an argument"

Because I'm right.

While we're waiting on a better voting system to come along, for now the only secure, trusted record keeping method is in person voting scanning ballots on the spot.

Early voting is an adequate solution to provide voter access.

Showing ID is a must. Get one. They're free.

No voter suppression.

Snoofy,

"Your claim makes no sense"

Do you keep a ballot scanner in your living room to watch your vote get counted in real time?

Of course not. Once it leaves your hands, it disappears into a process you can't observe.

The trouble is, you can't see past your nose, both physically and conceptually.

Donner,

"A "ballot scanner" is not the final destination of your vote."

After my ballot is read on a scanner when done at a voting center, are you saying my vote isn't recorded?

Or are you referring to the sdcard it was stored on?

If you are referring to the professes involved in collecting all the digital data, that's a far cry from transporting paper ballots in planes, trucks or whatever.

Donner,

You got me there.

I did more research and uncounted ballots at polling stations travel with mail-in ballots.

Might as well use mail-in ballots.

Permit and encourage ballot harvesting.

May the best party win that runs the best ballot harvesting campaign.

Donner,

Start a new trend.

Ballot collection day.

People can walk around neighborhoods collecting them from people and if they don't have one, be ready to hand one out pushing your own candidate.

Republicans can work the white neighborhoods and Democrats could work all the others and the homeless encampments.

Would that be satisfactory to give America what it deserves?

Speak,

"If no one is committing crimes and falsely filling out or destroying ballots, where is the problem?"

How do you know?

Nobody fessed up?

Laura,

What name do you vote under?

Just curious?

One,

Yea...I know

Time for Republicans to get with the program.