#20 | Posted by LampLighter

I would not say that this hypothetical person is no longer a citizen, but I will say that they would not be able to enter federal buildings or fly so they will have to update to the star card either way. As I said I dont want to limit any citizens ability to vote. It just no longer seems to me like this bill is nearly as disenfranchising as some would have us believe if I will still be able to vote with my current ID card.

#17 | Posted by LampLighter

Are hyphenated last names not allowed on the Star ID cards? I didnt realize that. I was given that option when I got married but that was nearly 30 years ago and I didnt choose to do so. I will look into that further. I dont support making it more difficult for citizens to vote. I do believe that there is a lot of misinformation surrounding the ability of non-citizens to vote and that drives a lot of people to support voter ID laws. It is more of the 'Us vs Them' division the GOP uses against us peons.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack

That is what I had been reading ALOT, but in Et_Al's link to congress it reads like your ID must meet the 2005 REAL ID standards and it has me wondering if it is all a bunch of 'sky is falling' BS. If we are fine with the star on our ID that wont cut nearly as many of us out of voting. It is still a roadblock for some as I did acknowledge, those with other barriers to obtaining their ID...

#11 | Posted by Angrydad

Yes, and I went to the link in ET_AL's post, did you?

So, if I am reading correctly my drivers license with the star on it would be sufficient ID (the first . I know there are barriers for some people (elderly/disabled/etc) but it doesnt seem to be disinfranchising married women the way most people are spinning this. If I am wrong please explain...

It was my understanding that someone who was ineligible to run for POTUS was also ineligible to run as VP.

So much for the ------- liberal pretending to care about Global Warming...that scam ended real quick.

#12 | Posted by ScottS

Tesla is not the only electric car manufacturer. Lots of my liberal Cali friends are selling and moving on to other makes.

This was terrible and absolutely inexcusable, but sadly it is the way things are headed. Trump's rhetoric has Republicans acting the way they always wanted to because they think it is acceptable now. Fortunately I dont see it in my neck of the woods yet, but I do believe it will get here at some point. 4 years is a long time when you consider how much damage has been done in one month.