It is clear that Trump's goal was to interrupt enough to get Biden off track and confused so that they could piece clips together still showing their view that Biden is losing his mental faculties. They want to take him down by saying he is too old and senile to lead the country because Trump himself has nothing to offer.

Eric said someone at the IRS obviously leaked the forms... So isn't that an admission the information is correct and not actually "fake news"?

Clown - it doesn't really look like McConnell is going to lose his reelection bid, but if Dems take the majority he wouldn't be leader. That's at least a start.

Twin you're still only commenting specifically on impeachment which I couldn't care less. Truth actually took time to think about the full picture which I appreciate. I hope that stronger checks and balances come in to law as a result of the Trump presidency. He's laid bare the current shortcomings. It shouldn't matter which team you're playing for when you're caught cheating.

To be clear, I'm not "excited" about the prospect of another impeachment battle. I was honestly asking how liberals view a second term Trump presidency if Dems control both sides of congress. I haven't seen anyone actually address how they think that goes. Do we get somewhere with the tons of conflicts of interest he has racked up? As a moderate I want both sides held accountable for their actions and Trump has a lot to answer for.

So, lets think about it for a minute. There is the given that Trump will contest the election, and may even come out the winner. How is his second term going to go if the Dems hold the house and take the senate? It is nearly a forgone conclusion that he is going to cheat to win. If the Dems take the senate do they again go for impeachment and we get Pence? Honest question...

#8 Regardless of what he said we all know Boaz was never going to vote for Biden anyway. Jeff either for that matter. They are lined up asking Trump for more when they would have thrown a fit had Obama done the same things. This is exactly why I don't do partisan politics. I thoroughly enjoy thinking for myself and not being a damn hypocrite...

#121 - I understand your argument and hope that it turns out true. I am just afraid that if they are getting the result they want from in person voting they may be inclined to go along with Trump on dumping the mail in ballots. Only time will tell and I hope that all of this worry is for nothing.

117 - ET AL

They are banking on the mail in ballots being significantly for Dems. If they are leading in the count without the mail in ballots they will have no problem not counting them.

#97 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK -- I plonked that poster earlier, never adds anything worth reading and is just in attack mode. Not worth the space on my screen.

#94 | POSTED BY EBERLY -- I am pleasantly surprised to see a thought out answer, I had given up on you. That being said, I thought the Republicans would have brought witnesses and actually held a trial in regards to the blatantly illegal actions Trump took with regards to Ukraine but they didnt. Expecting more of them when Trump is voted out of office but contests the results to remain in power I think is stretching it. I dont put it past McConnell to hold on to a GOP POTUS with both hands under any circumstance they can contrive.

Rusty - I will be surprised if you get a genuine opinion out of Eberly. It is why he has earned the trolling that he gets from several posters. He doesnt offer a position, and instead will jump in only when he thinks they go overboard in condemning things Trump does and says. I wish he held a position that he would stand up for aside from 'I didnt and wont vote for Trump'.

#91 - I know that I wasnt, but I was other places with other insane liberals around me never once saying those things. I still lived in Cali when Bush was POTUS and I heard LOTS of complaints about him. Pulling stunts to remain in office was not one of them.

He wasn't going to leave the white house. He was going to declare martial law or execute some legal maneuver which allowed him to remain in office.
#19 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I do not recall that being said about Bush, however I clearly recall it being said here and many other places about Obama. Obama never made any moves that lead me to believe the hype and I said so to my Dad and my husband's crazy friends (that even believe several alien races live together on the moon and avoid us...). Trump is the first POTUS I actually worry will pull a stunt to remain in office, whether successful or not.

#85 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY - unfortunately my take on that is that Trump hopes to have a 6 to 3 lopsided SC that would just do as he asks. I dont actually believe it would work out quite as he expects, but he is stacking the courts for a reason.

If he was really intending on staying the WH after being voted out....do you think he'd announce it to the world?
#59 | Posted by eberly

Eberly - Trump does not intend on being voted out. That is the main issue here. He literally said that we need to throw out the ballots, and this would solve the problem, there wouldnt be transfer of power "there would be a continuation". Consider for a moment if Obama had said anything nearly close to what Trump has. Trump is not hiding it. He has been very vocal about his plans. In my opinion at this stage, with his own words on record, Liberals are not overreacting. His attorneys are actively looking for ways to undermine our votes in swing states by defaulting to Trump if the race is close.

#63 - I no longer make any effort to contradict my Dad whether in public or in private because Trump followers are a cult who absolutely plug their ears and go 'lalalalalalala'. He gets angry and says I am attacking him, it is all personal in his eyes. Since he never followed politics before I am hopeful that once Trump is gone he will once again go back to being oblivious and not posting absolute bull#$%^ on his facebook.

#7 Ya, I read it yesterday as well. It was shocking to say the least. I hope it doesn't come to that. If it does then I sure hope the Dems retake the Senate.

Trump cult is still sharing that 96% of covid deaths had other contributing illnesses. My Dad just posted it again this morning saying something like 'no, 200,000 people haven't died from Covid-19. When will the media start reporting the real numbers?' Along with a meme graphic. There is no getting through to him.

This is what I asked about in the nooner yesterday because I wondered how likely he could away with it. I imagine Trump would do anything possible to remain POTUS.

Trump on the campaign trail in 16 and present has said that if he loses he'll "never talk to you again, you'll never see me again". I doubt he will be present in any court, he will be on the run.

#15 - I gave you a NW flag but I also think that the GOP would have still played games in order to not fill her seat...

#36 | POSTED BY GONOLES92 -- My Dad has posted that graphic and said the same thing on his FB page. I dont comment anymore because it leads to insane arguments with that old man, but I was glad to see someone else pointing that out.

#1 "I wonder if our President will hear..." No, he will hear NOTHING anyone says and will even contradict things HE says by the following day, or even later in the afternoon...

At this point is it unreasonable to wonder whether Trump realizes he is currently the POTUS?