They aren't going to put tens of billions of dollars into Venezuala for years until the political environment is well settled and the investment is safe.

Dumbass MAGAts are so stupid.

Remember this?
" Biden Raises Bounty for Nicols Maduro to $25 Million"
www.nytimes.com

#25 | Posted by BellRinger

Are you stupid enough to equate that with actually invading a foreign country, taking over its government, and doing all this without Congressional approval as required by the Constitution?

...you really are a stupid MAGAt Pedo Racist, aren't you?

You are such a dumb ---. Contextualize it all you want, in those two instances the US did facilitate regime change and the outcome was good for Hawaii and decent for Puerto Rico.
#186 | Posted by BellRinger

Hawaii had a rebellion and rampant disease after the takeover brought the population from 500,000 to 40,000 native Hawaiians. (92% loss)
Puerto Rico isn't even a state and you all are freaking out over Bad Bunny being at the Super Bowl. We basically keep the territory under our thumb and have huge price increases on their goods. See the Jones Act. Then we took over local government and basically just took over their resources, wiped out their culture, and refuse to support them when a hurricane hits.
#255 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Long term those were both successful. It's not a difficult concept. You really are a dumb ----
#258 | Posted by BellRinger

Wait wait wait...
Did you just say killing off the locals and stealing their resources was good in the long term?
#262 | Posted by Sycophant

When morons like Sycophant and Alexandrite see: posted by Bellringer, reading comprehension goes out the window. Case in point:
#268 | Posted by BellRinger

Notice Jeff switching topics again and avoiding the Fact Check?

I guess he really does root for just killing off the brown locals.

Historically US engineered regime change has gone poorly.

#34 | Posted by BellRinger

Wow. On the other thread he is saying it goes well.

Hawaii had a rebellion and rampant disease after the takeover brought the population from 500,000 to 40,000 native Hawaiians. (92% loss)
Puerto Rico isn't even a state and you all are freaking out over Bad Bunny being at the Super Bowl. We basically keep the territory under our thumb and have huge price increases on their goods. See the Jones Act. Then we took over local government and basically just took over their resources, wiped out their culture, and refuse to support them when a hurricane hits.
#255 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2026-01-03 04:47 PM | REPLY | FLAG"

I'll bust out the crayons and explain it one more time to your moronic ass. Long term those were both successful. It's not a difficult concept. You really are a dumb ----
#258 | Posted by BellRinger

Wait wait wait...

Did you just say killing off the locals and stealing their resources was good in the long term?

Killing brown people? Check
Pedophilia is okay? Check

Jeff just pushing those MAGAt ideals.

JEFF, GO FOR A TRIFECTA! Tell us cheating on your wife is good for her! Tell us fraud is good for the victims! Tell us soldiers and veterans are suckers and losers!

" How stupid are you?
#171 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2026-01-03 01:33 PM | FLAG: "
You are such a dumb ---. Contextualize it all you want, in those two instances the US did facilitate regime change and the outcome was good for Hawaii and decent for Puerto Rico.
Learn how to read, dipshht

#186 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-01-03 01:40 PM

So you have TWO examples where we turned them into states and it "went well."

Hawaii had a rebellion and rampant disease after the takeover brought the population from 500,000 to 40,000 native Hawaiians. (92% loss)

Puerto Rico isn't even a state and you all are freaking out over Bad Bunny being at the Super Bowl. We basically keep the territory under our thumb and have huge price increases on their goods. See the Jones Act. Then we took over local government and basically just took over their resources, wiped out their culture, and refuse to support them when a hurricane hits.

Again...I ask...HOW ------- STPUID ARE YOU?!

video of people lining the streets.....one lane of cars....people draping both flags over shoulders..
people in cars waving flags and everyone yelling " LIBERTAD.........LIBERTAD !!

#236 | Posted by shrimptacodan

When you have literally NOTHING ELSE to justify the invasion or how it benefits America...

...you go to foreign countries to get people supporting the US removing Maduro.

didn't give a F about women and children raped and murdered by illegal animals let in by
who ever was running the government....
now suddenly concerned with loss of human life..
you sir....are a true democrat.
#229 | Posted by shrimptacodan

You can always tell who gets their news from 4Chan memes...while they protect their Pedophile President.

Makes you wonder...how many of them are Pedophiles too?

My only two concerns at this point is
1. What is the price tag?
2. what does China and Russia cook up now?

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds

1. At least a trillion dollars and higher oil prices for a while (unless the US economy continues to crater and demand drops)
2. ANYTHING they want. International Law no longer exists. And the US is now too overcommitted in Venezuala to be effective elsewhere.

Good job, idiots.

So another $1-2 trillion to bolster US Oil Companies.

What does the average American get for this? Nothing.

This is the BIGGEST win for a couple key players:

1. US Oil companies no longer competing with Venezuala and price spikes until the US government spends a trillion dollars to give them access to Venezuala oil
2. OPEC no longer competing with Venezuala and price spikes
3. Venezuala drug gangs as the entire Venezuala government and law enforcement aparatus is essentially gone

Did this lower your rent? Did this lower your grocery prices? Did this lower your gas prices? No.

This is just another Iraq. We invaded a country to stop their supply of oil and put billions in the pockets of US Oil Execs.

And we will have to spend a trillion dollars to prop up Venezuala now so we can hand it to US oil companies.

" BellRinger. Has it ever worked out well?
#75 | POSTED BY CBOB AT 2026-01-03 11:39 AM | FLAG: "
Hawaii. Puerto Rico. Possibly Iraq.

#159 | Posted by BellRinger

Puerto Rico was already in a civil war against Spain. It was not its own country.

Hawaii had a tiny population and we literally apologized for it in 1993.

And in Iraq, we killed a million people and literally created ISIS.

...How stupid are you?

This violates so many US and International Laws that I'm not sure I can count them all.

If Congress doesn't immediately move for Impeachment, it would be one of the greatest sins the US has ever committed.

Of course the Pedo MAGAts in Congress will protect the President.

Shows up to two closed daycares and declares fraud.
Shows up in the morning to an afterschool program and declares fraud.
Shows up with guys in ski masks expecting to be let in to see the kids and declares fraud.

Boaz is one of those pedo MAGAts who literally sees fraud disproven and doubles down on the stupidity.

Well ----.

Those allegations and video didn't age well.

The videos shot by this youtuber turned out to be after hours or on holidays.

2 others were actually closed when he claimed they were open.

Other daycares he wasn't allowed in...because why would you allow a random stranger into a daycare to video tape kids?

The daycares apparently had already been checked and cleared by Minnesota officials and were operating properly.

Turns out he found literally NO fraud.

From AI
" Federal prosecutors in Minnesota have described an "industrial-scale fraud" that may involve more than half of the roughly $18 billion in federal funds that supported 14 state-run programs since 2018, calling it one of the most staggering fraud cases they have seen.
This supersedes the previously identified largest COVID-19-related fraud in the country, the "Feeding Our Future" case, which involved around $250 million to $300 million in stolen funds"
Feeding our future was much earlier this year. These indictments are current. Like I've been saying, you pull crap out of your behind.

#207 | Posted by BellRinger

"Described"

I gave you the evidence the Prosecutor said he had: "Red Flags." That's it. No actual evidence of $9 billion in fraud. Just "Well there could be fraud. We don't know."

But what do you expect from a Trump appointee trying to help Trump give Trump a reason to attack his opponents?

And you fall for it.

But what do we expect from a Pedo Lover trying to protect his president?

" "I just got out of a press conference where First Assistant U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson, the lead prosecutor in all these federal fraud cases in Minnesota, said that the 14 Medicaid-waivered programs that are under scrutiny in Minnesota cost $18 billion since 2018.
Thompson said it's possible that half of that could be fraudulent"
hotair.com
#201 | Posted by BellRinger

If the lead prosecutor is making that comment it most certainly more than a quarter billion.
#203 | Posted by BellRinger

Proof Jeff will believe ANYTHING especially when there is no evidence provided.

Trump appointee: "Billions stolen!"
Jeff: "Yep, must be billions!"

Facts:
1. Feeding Our Future only got $300 million
2. Prosecutors have said Feeding Our Future was the largest scam...so where is the other $8,700,000,000 in fraud?
3. Minnesota denied them grant money only to be court ordered to provide it.
4. BIDEN's FBI did the raid in 2022
5. Feeding Our Future was run by a white woman
6. The convictions are over a year old
7. Why $9 billion? Because these are just organizations that have high fraud risk due to the nature of their services.
8. Prosecutor's evidence so far for $9 billion? "When I look at the claims data and the providers, I see more red flags than I see legitimate providers." That's it. That's all his evidence. ALL of it thus far. Literally that's it.

No wonder Jeff quotes a conspiracy theorist site called HotAir which mentions none of these as key facts.

This is blowing up because people like Jeff are too stupid to get the facts.

Posted by BellRinger

Ever notice how Jeff just completely ignores when he gets fact checked and just comments on other random stuff when it happens?

Off 13,000%? Ignore it and talk about something else.
Caught lying about surgeries happening to kids 12 and under? Ignore it and talk about something else.

And then just complain people are ganging up on you because you said something stupid again and can't defend it.

Jeff ran away.

YOU ARE OFF BY 13,000%. (literally he's off that far.)

#109 | Posted by Sycophant

Jeff's numbers are SO LUDICROUS that I want to put them in perspective because it's hard to grasp 13,000%.

The Minnesota Vikings scored 23 points in their last game.

Jeff would say they scored 2,990 points in their last game.

That's the kind of -------- we have to deal with from this idiot.

BTW

If you want to talk puberty blockers...They did a study on that of 5 million minors who had insurance.

They were given to ONLY 926 minors between 2018 and 2022 out of that number. And not to anyone under the age of 12.

That's LESS than 200 a year nationwide that they found out of 5 million minors.

It's 0.018%.

My recollection is .3 based upon studies I've read.

#80 | Posted by BellRinger

I gave you the comprehensive study on gender affirming care.

It's 0.0023% when it comes to minors. Not 0.3%. Not 0.03%. Not even 0.003%. They found only 85 cases. 82 of which were breast reductions.
(For adults, it's closer to 0.0051%)

YOU ARE OFF BY 13,000%. (literally he's off that far.)

And they couldn't find a single instance of anyone 12 years or younger getting gender affirming surgery. So you lied there too.

And then you MOVED the goal posts and started talking about adults because you got fact checked.

In Jeff world, you can ---- a 15 year old. You can make a 15 year old carry your baby. But you can't let them make medical decisions even if they require parent consent and a team of multiple psychologists and multiple doctors to agree.

You are a ------- liar and a hypocrite, pedo.

Gotta keep sterilizing and surgically mutilating minors as much as possible.
#3 | Posted by BellRinger

Poor Pedo Lover Jeff.

Did Santa not leave that 15 year old girl under the tree like you wanted?

Gotta keep sterilizing and surgically mutilating minors as much as possible.
#3 | Posted by BellRinger

In 2019, there was a study done of 22 million minors.

They found only 85 cases of gender affirming surgery on transgender minors. 0.0023% of minors.
82 out of 85 were chest related surgeries.
97% of all breast reduction surgeries on individuals born male were on cisgender males rather than someone identifying as transgender. (Think, genetic issue or obesity)
They did not find a single instance of anyone 12 years old or younger receiving gender affirming surgery.

Dai D, Charlton BM, Boskey ER, Hughes LD, Hughto JMW, Orav EJ, Figueroa JF. Prevalence of Gender-Affirming Surgical Procedures Among Minors and Adults in the US. JAMA Netw Open. 2024 Jun 3;7(6):e2418814. doi: 10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2024.18814. PMID: 38935380; PMCID: PMC11211955.

Fact Checked into Oblivion again.

But I heard GDP grew...so we all got 4.3% richer...somehow...

I predict few if any DR Righties will post on this thread.