Tuesday, September 17, 2024

All the Estimations of Springfield's Immigrants Are Wrong

Just how many Haitian immigrants have moved to Springfield, Ohio, in recent years? There's no definitive answer, but we can say this: Almost every estimate you've seen is wrong - and too high. If nothing else, the many official sources pointing to a much smaller influx of Haitian immigrants suggest that the more alarming-sounding estimates may have been spoken into existence through a game of telephone - much like the swiftly debunked stories of animal abuse that originally drove the media interest in Springfield.

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In particular, the oft-quoted figure that 20,000 new residents from Haiti have settled in Springfield is not accurate. The real number is likely around half that amount. Here's how we know.

Springfield's population peaked at more than 80,000 in 1960 but then began a continuous decline, falling to under 60,000 in 2020. But that decline appears to be leveling off as the city experiences what the local newspaper called in 2022 a "resurgence."

Newcomers from Haiti have played a critical role in this transformation, and their actual number is likely more in line with official estimates in the low five figures. But even these assessments may be too large: New data from the Census Bureau shows only a tiny increase in Springfield's Haitian population, though it, too, has sources of error, and comes to us already a year out of date.

As Haitians in Springfield experience an outpouring of hatred fomented by the far right, it's reasonable to ask why we might be concerned with precise population counts. Accurate data, however, is at the heart of responsive democratic governance. Cities, counties, states, and the federal government all need detailed information about their inhabitants if they're to meet the needs of longtime residents and new arrivals alike.

If we take the county's current official estimates for all immigrants (around 12,000 to 15,000) and subtract the ACS estimate of the total foreign-born population prior to extensive Haitian immigration (approximately 2,000 in 2019, which is itself likely to be an undercount), that also suggests a total Haitian community of around 10,000.

Again, these numbers are for Clark County as a whole, so the figures for Springfield itself would be lower. They are also estimates, so the total we've arrived at could be somewhat greater or somewhat smaller.

Conversely, repression of the facts is a key page in the authoritarian's playbook. The absence of trustworthy data creates an information vacuum easily filled by propaganda. That gap is already being exploited. The Downballot's goal is to close it.

The rest is in the article linked above. And should anyone be surprised that this "crisis" has been blown out of proportion intentionally by those hoping to use it towards their own goals - which have zero to do with the actual welfare, well-being and safety of all the citizens currently living in Springfield?

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-17 01:22 PM

What P01135809 and Jethro Dull were lying about numbers.

SHOCKED!

They are the definition of domestic terrorists.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-09-17 03:30 PM

And let's not forget on Fox News they're claiming more than 30,000 Haitians are infesting Springfield.

They've got Vernon's calculator(TM) working overtime I see.

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-17 06:54 PM

"Spewing lies": Harris condemns Trump's "hateful rhetoric" about Springfield
www.axios.com

... Vice President Harris on Tuesday condemned former President Trump and Sen. JD Vance for their "hateful rhetoric" about Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, and said they are "spewing lies ... grounded in tropes."

Why it matters: Harris' remarks " during her second nationally televised interview as the Democratic nominee " are her most extensive yet on the unfounded GOP-driven conspiracy theory about Haitian immigrants eating pets in the Ohio town.

- - - "It's a crying shame. My heart breaks for this community," Harris said during a panel interview on Tuesday with the National Association of Black Journalists.

- - - "When you are bestowed with a microphone that big, there is a profound responsibility that comes with that," said Harris. ...



#4 | Posted by lamplighter at 2024-09-17 07:38 PM

The left ca: 2024 has generated hate via misrepresentation about the border ever since the so called border czar Kamala Harris and Sec HSec repeatedly lied and tried to tell us "the border is secure". Once the MSM started covering the reality and Fox News and drone coverage was exposed the rest is history. They have zero legitimacy on subject of immigration.

Every Democrat illegal immigrant needs shipped to the Dem cesspool ghettoes where Dem bureacrats help their rich gentrifying sponsors and sell them property on the cheap. While they steal it from the poor original inhabitant and citizen owners.

#5 | Posted by Robson at 2024-09-17 08:29 PM

@#5 ... The left ca: 2024 has generated hate via misrepresentation about the border ...

I do not accept the premise of your comment.

Did the left generate that hate, or did the GOP generate that hate because of their disagreement with what the left had said?



#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-17 08:36 PM

#5

Vice President Kamala Harris and Migration in the Americas: Setting the Record Straight

Read this and learn something, oh ignorant fool. Border crossings at currently at lows not seen since before Covid during the early part of the Trump error. Other nations are closing migrant avenues and sending them back to where they came from.

All due to an intelligent Administration seeking a hemisphere-wide agreement to based on addressing the root causes of migration and securing corporate investment in the countries where the migrants are coming from, providing them economic opportunity and growth within their own borders. It's called the LA Declarations.

Does it hurt to be so stupid, Robson?

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-17 08:41 PM

#5 | Posted by Robson

I cannot believe you clowns are responding to this absolute, unequivocal, bat-sht insanity.

Robson belongs in a mental institution.

#8 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-09-18 12:19 PM

Sec HSec repeatedly lied and tried to tell us "the border is secure".

Is Mexico attacking us?

Is Canada attacking us?

Is Russia attacking us?

Is Cuba attacking us?

No?

Then I am happy to report that our borders are secure!

Did Trump actually convince republicans to shelve a bipartisan immigration bill for political purposes only to benefit himself?

Yes.

And so now the reality is that republicans are the ones that have zero legitimacy on the subject of immigration.

That's what you get for supporting a demented narcissist for President.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-18 12:27 PM

"I cannot believe you clowns are responding to this absolute, unequivocal, bat-sht insanity."

Hey! Why you want to ruin our fun?

He does seem to represent the deep craziness of the maga party. And challenging that is, well, a challenge.

Besides I am told that if you can keep them maga loonies talking then they ain't shootin!

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-18 12:32 PM

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