Friday, October 11, 2024

Elon Musk's 'Free' Internet for Hurricane Victims Has a Major Catch

Edith Olmsted: It turns out, Elon Musk's gracious offer of "free" Starlink high-speed internet services for those affected by Hurricane Helene isn't free at all, and may be a ploy to trap new customers.

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"It turns out, Elon Musk's gracious offer of "free" Starlink high-speed internet services for those affected by Hurricane Helene isn't free at all, and may be a ploy to trap new customers.

Last week, Starlink posted a link on X to a website explaining its offer to those seeking Hurricane Helene relief. "For those impacted by Hurricane Helene, or looking to support response and recovery efforts in affected areas, Starlink is now free for 30 days," the post read.

Musk reshared the post, adding, "Starlink terminals will now work automatically without need for payment in the areas affected by Hurricane Helene."

A closer look at the website, though, shows that the offer comes with a few caveats."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 05:41 PM

... Elon Musk's "Free" Internet for Hurricane Victims Has a Major Catch Elon Musk has managed to turn Hurricane Helene relief into a scam. ...

You noticed that also?

That pretty much negates all the good will Mr Musk seems to strive for with his comments about "free Internet" for those in a disaster area.

Mr Musk is expecting people who likely have lost nearly everything to fork over $400 for what he seems to be saying is little more than a free trial?

Also, if Mr Musk is really so interested in helping the good people of Florida, why does he seem to so actively promote disinformation about the relief efforts on his X platform?


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-10 06:16 PM

screw him.

#3 | Posted by ichiro at 2024-10-11 06:02 PM

KCUF that pos already!

#4 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-10-11 09:28 PM

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Elon Musk's 'Free' Internet for Hurricane Victims Has a Major Catch

His "free" Starlink for Ukraine was also BS.

October 10, 2024 - Poland's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Radek Sikorski, issued a statement in response to years of Musk's back and forth claims around his funding of Starlink in Ukraine:

"I'd like you to know Starlink units in Ukraine are not funded by Mr. Musk. They have been, are and will be funded exclusively by Poland. We do it, and it's a factor in Ukraine being able to continue fighting."
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#5 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-10-12 08:11 AM

I'm starting to hate Elmo more than I hate the orange stain.

#6 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2024-10-12 11:14 AM

#6 That is great! You should start a Retort Withdrawal Support Group (RWSG) for those addicted to Musk, Twitter, X, etc. Ban it from this site, save a liberal!

#7 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-10-12 12:00 PM

Some of the people who hate fElon the most are those who liked X before he stunk it up.

When all his Epstein files drop, he may have to ban most of the users.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-12 12:46 PM

Richest man in the world and he still has to rip people off.

elon musk is a worthless human being.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-12 02:54 PM

The service is free through the end of the year.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-12 04:27 PM

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#10 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-12 01:35 PM
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What about the ones financed by UK and US?

"There are more than 20,000 Starlink terminals in Ukraine, many of them used by the military. While some of them were donated by SpaceX, many are paid for by the US government, western allies or through crowdfunding"
archive.is

Why was the mainstream media lying about this all along, or is the guy in Poland lying just now?

Your link to supposed FT [archived] article doesn't show the article, but anyway, it's most likely very outdated (early 2022-2023), and you haven't been paying attention.

No one, except Musk, has been lying about this. First he was boasting about its use by Ukraine, trying to promote Starlink, so he claimed that he donated them; then he started complaining about "high costs" and required a payment and sent the bill to Pentagon; he also turned off Ukraine's service in Crimea region on a whim, after talking to "brother Putin" and deciding that he didn't "donate" them for "military/war purposes"... while Russians not only have been illegally using sanctioned terminals and services with impunity (they cannot be sold or activated in Russia due to crude "geofencing"), they also listened in and/or are jamming Ukrainian Starlink unencrypted services, making them a lot less effective.

www.washingtonpost.com - Russia's illicit Starlink terminals help power its advance in Ukraine - October 12, 2024

|------- Russian forces have become deadlier and more agile with the help of illicit Starlink terminals, allowing them to use satellite internet to enhance coordination during assaults... despite U.S. efforts to stop the flow of technology.

The issue has renewed Ukrainian frustrations over Elon Musk, SpaceX's mercurial chief executive. Some of the soldiers criticized Musk by name, saying his company has not done enough to crack down on illicit use and casting doubt on his desire to fix the problem, saying he appears to have favorable views toward Russia.

SpaceX provided free Starlink connection to Ukraine after Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022 but then threatened to cut service following online spats with diplomats, citing the high costs. Musk relented under public pressure and then sent the bill to the Pentagon... Musk was also widely condemned in Ukraine following reports he denied Kyiv's request to allow Starlink access for sea drones in a planned 2022 attack on Russia's Black Sea Fleet. ...
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Starlink terminals and service in Ukraine have been [re-]purchased and paid for by Poland, as part of contribution to NATO's support for Ukraine.

Independently of this, UK and US are buying and using Starlink unencrypted commercial internet (e.g., Coast Guard, FEMA) and DoD is expecting to increase purchases to expand its PLEO satellite constellations as part of "Starshield" and Satcom 2029 programmes.

DoD currently buys Starlink's commercial internet service but by 2029 it plans to acquire more than 100 SpaceX encrypted and "hardened" for military use "Starshield" satellites that would be owned, controlled and operated by US government, as well as Satcom products and services from about 20 other vendors.

It's hard to keep track of who is lying now and who lied before.

Exactly, so don't rush to accuse people of lying, especially when you yourself are working off of very limited information and knowledge about the subject.
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#13 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-10-13 01:10 AM

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#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-12 04:27 PM
The service is free through the end of the year.

"Starlink terminals will now work automatically without need for payment in the areas affected by Hurricane"

You never heard of "30 day free trial period"?

Except to get these 30 days "free" one needs to read the small print:
"Please note: A Starlink kit is required to access this free service. If you do not already have a Starlink kit, you will need to purchase one"

That's $350-$400 plus tax. Starlink has also warned of significant delays that may prevent orders from arriving for weeks. ... And "After 30 days, we will move you to a paid Residential subscription."

Residential subscription costs $120/month, significantly more than a typical fiber or fixed-wireless internet service, which could cost around $40 per month.

Besides, even if you could get your hands on the kit in time, you would need electricity to run it, and if electricity restored, the internet service usually follows very soon.

Not exactly a charity, more like opportunistic promotion, at best, and "bait and switch" at worst.
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#14 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-10-13 01:43 AM

@#14 ... Residential subscription costs $120/month, significantly more than a typical fiber or fixed-wireless internet service, which could cost around $40 per month. ...

Local fiber provider here offered me 500mbps (up and down) for $26 per month (for a year), providing I allowing direct withdrawal from my account.

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-13 01:55 AM

$400 why isn't the government giving it to the people?

That's so much less than $42Billion spent on Biden Harris broadband initiative which hasn't connected anyone.

Scraping the cheap Starlink deal, for a10X cost solution.

You people are idiots.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-13 09:59 AM

Local fiber provider here offered me 500mbps (up and down) for $26 per month (for a year), providing I allowing direct withdrawal from my account.
#15 | Posted by LampLighter

Tell me you don't understand the technology without telling me you don't understand.

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-13 10:01 AM

"Scraping the cheap Starlink deal, for a10X cost solution." - #16 | Posted by oneironaut (NSFW) at 2024-10-13 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag: MAGA Concept of Money

#18 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-13 10:04 AM

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That's so much less than $42Billion spent on Biden Harris broadband initiative which hasn't connected anyone.

It didn't connect anyone because it was not spent - it was part of bipartisan $1T 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, and as is typical of government programs, "designed" to be allocated to different states and had enough red tape to be "shovel-ready" in 2025-2026, and nobody applied for grants because no one wanted to deal with managing added litany of "woke" federal mandates and states' requirements, and higher expenses to hire "local workforce (read 'union') at prevailing wages and benefits" which they couldn't realistically afford or recoup.

www.politico.com - How politics hung up a $42B Biden internet buildout

Scraping the cheap Starlink deal, for a 10X cost solution. You people are idiots.

No one "scraped" the nonexistent "deal" - maybe because "Starlink deal" is not cheap at all, and only serves to enrich Elon, while "giving" people inferior "broadband" speeds at 3x-4x the price of much faster reliable fiber/fixed-wireless broadband they already have.

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk approvingly reposted an X user who claimed that "for $42 billion they could have bought Starlink dishes for 140 million people."

How shamelessly nice of Elon to think that the government should enrich him by buying his terminals for 140 million households (which is more than actual households in the US, most of whom don't need it in the first place, since about 90% of population already have, and 95% are expected to have by the mid-2025, real broadband at same or much higher d/u speeds than Starlink), so he could start charging them 3x-4x for his "broadband" service! Look what he's done with eX-Twitter for "only" $44B.

Starlink or similar services are good in emergencies or where only satellite service will do, it's not competitive with HS broadband.

$400 why isn't the government giving it to the people?

Many non-profits have shipped more than 10k terminals and FEMA / local governments are giving them "for free" in affected areas, until internet service is restored.

Actually there was a program, called ACP, that was doing just that, at much cheaper cost and with very little management and bureaucratic waste. It temporarily provided $360/yr subsidy per low-income subscriber, which would help ISPs build out the broadband and/or provide more competitive services in more [rural] areas, where they now may have to buy expensive satellite or cell service.

This year the Republicans in Congress, at Trump's behest, "cancelled" / wouldn't extend ACP at a fraction of the cost of $42B they voted to allocate Broadband Equity Access and Deployment (BEAD) in first place in 2021

www.forbes.com - this article is from last year, before ACP was "cancelled" in Congress.

"Tell me you don't understand technology financing without telling me you don't understand technology financing."
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#19 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-10-13 02:49 PM

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