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German Christmas Market Attack

At least five people -- including a child -- were killed and more than 200 injured after a car plowed into a crowd at a Christmas market in the German city of Magdeburg on Friday, local authorities said.

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German Christmas market attack: suspect faces murder charges

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-- The Guardian (@theguardian.com) December 22, 2024 at 6:13 AM

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Update...

Germany: Car driven into crowd at Magdeburg Christmas market
www.dw.com

... A car was driven into a crowd of people at a Christmas market in the central German city of Magdeburg on Friday night.

At least two people have been killed, according to Saxony-Anhalt's state premier, Reiner Haseloff, who said at least 60 more had been injured. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-20 04:54 PM

New numbers are now four dead and at least 200 injured.

www.dw.com

#2 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-21 05:32 AM

The suspected terrorist is a Saudi who has been living in Germany since 2006.

#3 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-21 05:33 AM

Suspect in Magdeburg market attack is pro-AfD Saudi doctor

Analysis of his social media reveals tweets in support of Germany's anti-immigration party AfD, while he has also made comments supporting Elon Musk, far-right activist Tommy Robinson, and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-21 09:35 AM

So he's just like Musk. Musk is a huge fan of the neo-Nazi AfD party. He's endorsed them in the upcoming election.

#5 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-21 11:23 AM

He praised Netanyahu and Israel many times on social media.

#6 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-21 06:17 PM

Stupid antitheist thinks that by attacking a Christian event he's going fight islamists.

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2024-12-22 01:34 PM

How do you know he's an atheist?

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-22 01:41 PM

www.learnreligions.com

Well Tor? Response to Alexandrite?

#9 | Posted by mattm at 2024-12-22 06:45 PM

Taleb Al Abdulmohsen is radical Shia Muslim name. Surprise ClownShack hasn't commented on this.


So he's just like Musk. Musk is a huge fan of the neo-Nazi AfD party. He's endorsed them in the upcoming election.
#5 | POSTED BY YAV
He praised Netanyahu and Israel many times on social media.
#6 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

So? He was probably practicing "Taqqiye", which is an Islamic doctrine that allows lying and deception to advance Islamic objectives.
www.britannica.com

Given the above "accusations" how does it make sense to attach a Christmas Themed market?

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-22 06:57 PM

Lol, OneNut's post is taken almost verbatim from India Today, a globally recognized bastion of reliability and integrity, he-he:

www.indiatoday.in

So is OneNut a fake news sowing troll from India? Can we take a poll?

#11 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-22 09:38 PM

@#10 ... Taleb Al Abdulmohsen is radical Shia Muslim name. ...

And, that is relevant, how?

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-22 09:46 PM

It is a very strange situation. A non-Islamic Saudi, maybe the only one ever, praises anti-immigration policies and commits terrorism using well documented Islamist tactics. And he's a psychiatrist. Who probably should have been talking to a psychiatrist.

#13 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-23 06:39 AM

"It is a very strange situation"

Especially for those so eager to pin it on some Islamic fundamentalist nutter-

wie die mitglieder der AfD.

#14 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-23 10:28 AM

Got an American version in Killeen, TX this morning. Pickup truck into a Mall.

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-23 11:03 AM

Pickup truck into a Mall

My source in Madhya Pradesh says it's one of those sneaky Muslims, pretending to be MAGA!

#16 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-23 11:50 AM

"Especially for those so eager to pin it on some Islamic fundamentalist nutter-"

Well, when has it not been a Muslim that attacked a Christmas market.

The dude was a Saudi. By law, he was required to be a Muslim.

#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-23 03:09 PM

99.9% of all terrorist acts in Germany over the past 100 years that have led to the deaths of millions of innocent people have been perpetrated by far-right, anti-immigrant German nationalists, so this guy fits that profile.

#18 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-23 03:41 PM

Leon must be so proud that this killer was radicalized on twitter.

#19 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-23 03:42 PM

"99.9% of all terrorist acts in Germany over the past 100 years that have led to the deaths of millions of innocent people have been perpetrated by far-right, anti-immigrant German nationalists, so this guy fits that profile."

100% of attacks on Christmas markets have been conducted by Muslims.

Who knows, maybe their right-wing cousins have recognized the effectiveness of the strategy.

#20 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-23 04:06 PM

I mean, if he's right-wing, he may be a "from the river to the sea" type of guy.

There is little gray space between the right-wing European antisemites and their Muslim counterparts.

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-23 04:08 PM

"100% of attacks on Christmas markets have been conducted by Muslims."

Not anymore, parteigenosse!

#22 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-23 05:09 PM

"if he's right-wing, he may be a "from the river to the sea" type of guy."

There is little gray space between the right-wing European antisemites and their LIKUD counterparts

FTFY.
YW.

#23 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-23 05:23 PM

LIKUD is antisemitic?

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-24 05:35 AM

"LIKUD is antisemitic?"

Well, they're busy exterminating and permanently maiming/disabling hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and Palestinians are semites, so yeah.

Netanyahu and Likud embrace the European antisemitic far right

#25 | Posted by Nerfherder at 2024-12-24 09:55 AM

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#25 | Posted by Nerfherder at 2024-12-24 09:55 AM
"LIKUD is antisemitic?"

Well, they're busy exterminating and permanently maiming/disabling hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and Palestinians are semites, so yeah.

Using semantics / "anti-semantics" (?) to redefine the normal usage of the term has been "cleverly" tried since 1930s... and as usual, has been wrong - the terms "antisemite" / "antisemitic" have been first, and long since, applied specifically, as intended, only to Jews, and is separate from other more specific terms "anti-Arab," "anti-Muslim," "anti-Islamic" etc.:

en.wikipedia.org - Semitic people:
|------- Antisemitism
Main article: Antisemitism

The terms "anti-Semite" or "antisemitism" ... refer more narrowly to anyone who was hostile or discriminatory towards Jews in particular.

In 1879, the German journalist Wilhelm Marr began the politicization of the term... in "The Way to Victory of Germanism over Judaism". He accused the Jews of being liberals, a people without roots who had Judaized Germans beyond salvation... Marr's adherents founded the "League for Anti-Semitism", which concerned itself entirely with anti-Jewish political action.

Objections to the obsolete nature of the term "Semitic" as a racial term, have been raised since at least the 1930s.
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en.wikipedia.org - Antisemitism **:
|------- Antisemitism or Jew-hatred is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against, Jews. This sentiment is a form of racism, and a person who harbors it is called an antisemite. Primarily, antisemitic tendencies may be motivated by negative sentiment towards Jews as a people or by negative sentiment towards Jews with regard to Judaism.

... According to philologist Jonathan M. Hess, the term was originally used by its authors to "stress the radical difference between their own 'antisemitism' and earlier forms of antagonism toward Jews and Judaism."

... Although the term "antisemitism" did not come into common usage until the 19th century, it is also applied to previous and later anti-Jewish incidents. Notable instances of antisemitic persecution include the Rhineland massacres in 1096; the Edict of Expulsion in 1290; the European persecution of Jews during the Black Death, between 1348 and 1351; the massacre of Spanish Jews in 1391, the crackdown of the Spanish Inquisition, and the expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492; the Cossack massacres in Ukraine, between 1648 and 1657; various anti-Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire, between 1821 and 1906; the Dreyfus affair, between 1894 and 1906; the Holocaust by Nazi Germany during World War II; and various Soviet anti-Jewish policies. Historically, most of the world's violent antisemitic events have taken place in Christian Europe. However, since the early 20th century, there has been a sharp rise in antisemitic incidents across the Arab world, largely due to the surge in Arab antisemitic conspiracy theories, which have been cultivated to an extent under the aegis of European antisemitic conspiracy theories.
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Attempts to attribute "From the River to the Sea" to 1977 Likud alliance platform are a diversion - as stated here before, it was about "1 State" of Jews with Arabs/Palestinians under Israel sovereignty, not genocide ("driving Jews into the sea") and Israel land belonging to "Palestinians," as Covenants of Hamas, PIJ, PLO and other terrorist orgs demand.

Usually ignored is that Jews don't do "From the River to the Sea" rallies, 21+% of Israeli citizens are Arabs/Muslims, etc.
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#26 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-12-25 05:43 AM

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|------- In 1879, German journalist Wilhelm Marr published a pamphlet... in which he used the word Semitismus interchangeably with the word Judentum to denote both "Jewry" (the Jews as a collective) and "Jewishness" (the quality of being Jewish, or the Jewish spirit). He accused the Jews of a worldwide conspiracy against non-Jews, called for resistance against "this foreign power", and claimed that "there will be absolutely no public office, even the highest one, which the Jews will not have usurped".

This followed his 1862 book Die Judenspiegel (A Mirror to the Jews) in which he argued that "Judaism must cease to exist if humanity is to commence", demanding both that Judaism be dissolved as a "religious-denominational sect" but also subject to criticism "as a race, a civil and social entity".

This use of Semitismus was followed by a coining of "Antisemitismus" which was used to indicate opposition to the Jews as a people and opposition to the Jewish spirit, which Marr interpreted as infiltrating German culture.

The pamphlet became very popular, and in the same year Marr founded the Antisemiten-Liga (League of Antisemites)... The league was the first German organization committed specifically to combating the alleged threat to Germany and German culture posed by the Jews and their influence and advocating their forced removal from the country.

... In the aftermath of the Kristallnacht pogrom in 1938, German propaganda minister Goebbels announced: "The German people is anti-Semitic. It has no desire to have its rights restricted or to be provoked in the future by parasites of the Jewish race."

... Europe has blamed the Jews for an encyclopedia of sins.
The Church blamed the Jews for killing Jesus; Voltaire blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. In the febrile minds of anti-Semites, Jews were usurers and well-poisoners and spreaders of disease. Jews were the creators of both communism and capitalism; they were clannish but also cosmopolitan; cowardly and warmongering; self-righteous moralists and defilers of culture. Ideologues and demagogues of many permutations have understood the Jews to be a singularly malevolent force standing between the world and its perfection. ...
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#27 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-12-25 05:46 AM

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