Saturday, November 02, 2024

Can democracy survive now the world's richest man has it in his sights?

George Monbiot: A vote for Donald Trump next week is a vote for Elon Musk. Just as Trump is using Musk, Musk could be using Trump as a springboard to perhaps even greater power than the US president can wield.

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What would the world's richest man gain from the e-Muskulation of US--and perhaps global-- politics? He would gain what capital has sought since workers acquired the vote: the truncation of democracy. Democracy is the problem capital keeps trying to solve. Why? Because it ensures that workers have rights and fair wages; that the living world has some (though never enough) protections; that we cannot be ripped off, poisoned and robbed without restraint.

Capitalism has used two powerful tools to try to solve its problem: fascism and neoliberalism. But now, though drawing on both those ideologies, it reverts to an older and cruder mode: oligarchy. Why, the billionaires might wonder, should they rely on intermediaries to wield political power? After all, in every other sphere, the world bows to them, not to their concierges. This, I think, is where Musk and some of his fellow tech authoritarians have been heading.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-02 06:35 AM

"Why has Thiel been such a strong sponsor of Vance? Because Thiel sees in his protege a future leader of a political movement to turn the US away from democracy. "For Peter," said one of the people familiar with his thinking, "Vance is a generational bet."

Thiel is a self-styled libertarian who once wrote: "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible."

Hello? Freedom is incompatible with democracy only if you view democracy as a potential constraint on your wealth and power."

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"That's the point. Thiel and Vance - along with Elon Musk, Steve Bannon, Blake Masters, tech entrepreneur David Sacks, Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, Palantir adviser Jacob Helberg, Sequoia Capital's Doug Leone, blogger Curtis Yarvin, and others in the anti-democracy movement - believe that the only way true libertarians can win in the US is for a Caesar-like figure to wrest power from the US establishment and install a monarchical regime, run like a startup."

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In Yarvin's view, democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful; they should be replaced with sovereign joint-stock corporations whose major "shareholders" select an executive with total power, who serves at their pleasure.

Yarvin refers to the city-state of Singapore as an example of a successful authoritarian regime.

How to achieve Yarvin's vision? The first step, as Vance offered in a 2021 podcast, is to replace "every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state ... with our people.

And when the courts stop you, stand before the country, and say" " as did Andrew Jackson " that "the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it."

www.theguardian.com

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-02 01:57 PM

Coming from the party that installed their candidate without a single vote, outspent the GOP by about 3:1, and controls the lying main stream media this is rather hypocritical, don't you think? Literally every authoritarian force hell bent on curtailing your freedoms from speech, to a free press, to protection from spying by 3 letter agencies have all aligned with Kamala.

#3 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-02 10:01 PM

" the party that installed their candidate without a single vote"

The door was open. Any Dem who wanted had the chance to throw their hat in the ring.

None did, and the Dems are obviously fine with that.

Meanwhile, next week's losers are already starting their crying time.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-11-02 10:23 PM

DNC virtual roll call vote ends with Kamala Harris receiving 99% of delegate votes. Here are the full results. (August 6, 2024 / 8:02 AM EDT )
www.cbsnews.com

... The Democratic National Committee's virtual roll call vote has closed, and the Democratic Party announced that Vice President Kamala Harris received the votes of 99% of the participating delegates.

In a statement late Monday, Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison and Minyon Moore, the Democratic National Convention committee chair, said that the roll call results would next be certified by the convention's secretary, Jason Rae, formalizing Harris' status as the Democratic nominee who will take on Republican nominee Donald Trump in November. ...


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-02 10:41 PM

Elon can never be president or he would be already.

If Lewzer wins, Elon can be anything he is willing to pay for short of VP. Cabinet? SCOTUS? He meets all the requirements.

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-02 10:50 PM

Sort of related, I've always wondered why the right wing hasn't wanted to run the country like a business when it comes to economy of scale.

#7 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-11-02 11:04 PM

I've always wondered why the right wing hasn't wanted to run the country like a business when it comes to economy of scale.

Because they want to run it like Lewzer... a scripted TV show where you always win.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-02 11:13 PM

"I've always wondered why the right wing hasn't wanted to run the country like a business when it comes to economy of scale.
#7 | Posted by Dbt2"

Maybe because we have 1000's of examples how this does not work when it is run by government in the form of State Owned Enterprises under Communist/Socialist governments. Hell, we have Petrleos de Venezuela, S.A. if you want a current example.

#9 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-03 12:06 AM

Here is the AI answer on Google:

"No, state-owned enterprises (SOEs) are generally less profitable than private sector companies:

Research
Most studies find that SOEs have poorer performance than private companies. For example, a study of over 25,000 firms worldwide found that SOEs were less profitable and more labor intensive than private firms."

I honestly believe this is why the Democrats have intentionally destroyed public schools. Anyone with an understanding of history can easily refute the Democrat talking points and eventually, we would run out of morons saying "let's try communism"

#10 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-03 12:13 AM

"Coming from the party that installed their candidate without a single vote ... "

Call 1800 Whaaaa!

Millions of Americans have already cast their ballot for Kamala.

And Kamala has been a candidate for what 3 months ?

And she has already tied and in many cases (hopefully enough) exceeded Trumpy in the polls. And Trumpy has been in the running for decades.

That should tell you something very important.

But probably doesn't mean a damn thing to you.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-11-03 09:33 AM

"I honestly believe this is why the Democrats have intentionally destroyed public schools."

Ahh so you believe in garbage!

Makes sense.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-11-03 09:35 AM

we would run out of morons saying "let's try communism"

#10 | POSTED BY DEADMAN

Nope.

Not possible. Not with the multitude of those morons who are apparently living in your head.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-11-03 12:29 PM

"Here's the AI answer in Google"

You little Russian bitches have given up.

Now go die in Ukraine.

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-11-03 11:11 PM

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