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Thursday, May 22, 2025

Top leaders of Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched their Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel aiming to torpedo peace negotiations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, according to minutes of a high-level meeting in Gaza that Israel's military said it discovered in a tunnel beneath the enclave. Days before the assault that left nearly 1,200 dead, Yahya Sinwar, Hamas's Gaza chief, told fellow militants that an "extraordinary act" was required to derail the normalization talks that he said risked marginalizing the Palestinian cause, the document, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, said.

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"The plan worked - at a terrible price.

Iran-backed Hamas's onslaught of killing and kidnapping sparked an Israeli military campaign to destroy the militants that has killed more than 53,000 Palestinians, according to Gaza health authorities, and left the territory in ruins. That has fueled anger across the Arab world and beyond, halting progress toward normalization, at least for now."

#1 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-22 07:37 AM | Reply

WSJ: Hamas Did Oct 7 Atrocities to Stop Israel-Saudi Peace

Sounds like Hamas used military force to achieve their diplomatic objective.

What diplomatic objective is Israel using their military force to achieve? Seens to be the same objective Hamas has.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-22 09:42 AM | Reply

Snoofy is a Nazi.

#3 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-05-22 10:53 AM | Reply

#2: Hi Snoofy: Regarding this WSJ story that Israel recovered documents alleging the Palestinian resistance motive for the 7 Oct 2023 raid was to scuttle peace between Israel and Saudi Arabia is spurious and designed to shift the blame away from the victimizer to the victim.

The muqawama planned the 7 Oct 2023 attack meticulously and over a long period of time, possibly over years, with the goal of seizing Israeli hostages for a prisoner swap. Thousands of Palestinians had been in military detention for months or years without trial or hearing. Amnesty International detailed the horrific torture the IDF inflicted on them. D/Mossad David Barnea knew exactly what the muqawama motivation was for the raid and he urged PM Benjamin Netanyahu to trade prisoners, which they did thrice in Nov 2023. But Netanyahu saw more benefit for himself and his rightwing cabinet by inflicting punishment on the Palestinians, so he stopped negotiations. As a wartime PM, conflict would delay his corruption trial while pleasing Beelzebub Smotrich and Avi Dichter: "We are now rolling out the Nakba of Gaza."

Bibi, an MIT graduate, also saw a fracturing of the Democratic Party base during the 2024 election campaign that the Nakba was causing, so he ignored all of Joe Biden's attempts at a ceasefire to tilt the election for Dotard Trumpf. Recall that the two blackguards met a few times before the 5 Nov 2024 election.

The muqawama exercised extraordinary OPSEC for months, preventing the Shin Bet, the US, the Iranians, from discovering their plans. Only Egyptian intelligence caught wind of something afoot in Gaza and alerted Jerusalem a few days or weeks before the attack, but they had no specifics to provide.

The Palestinians in Gaza would conduct such a sophisticated attack just to scotch peace talks between Riyadh and Jerusalem? Then why bother to seize 251 Israeli hostages which would slow down their escape and return to Gaza?

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Besides sitting in trial on corruption charges in a Tel Aviv court, Benjamin Netanyahu also faces an imminent 9/11 Commission-style investigation into his handling of the 7 Oct 2023 attack. Several civilian panels in Israel have already found him at fault. An international arrest warrant issued by the ICC for crimes against humanity remains active for the "Crime Minister."

An indictment is merely an allegation. All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Sources:

Amnesty

Priosner Swap

Avi Dichter

Netanyahu Trial

#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-22 02:51 PM | Reply

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