Eff,

"Birth tourism" itself is not automatically illegal, but it is frequently tied to fraudulent visa applications.

The result will likely be tougher visa and entry screening, more denials, and harsher consequences for anyone who lies about the purpose of the trip.

The issue is not the baby's citizenship after birth. The issue is the fraud used to enter the country in the first place.

If someone lies on a visa application, misrepresents the purpose of travel, uses false documents, or obtains public benefits under false pretenses, that could lead to removal, or even criminal charges filed against them.

The child's US citizenship would generally remain intact, but the mother could still be removed, denied future visas, or barred from returning.

My point and prediction is that the Supreme Court's confirmation of birthright citizenship will lead to tighter visa screening and stricter enforcement at entry.

In my opinion, that should happen regardless.

Zed,

I'm only proposing a question.

You figure out the answer.

Laura,

What does that have to do with vetting?

The Supreme Court reaffirmed that if someone is born on US soil, that person is a US citizen.

But that does not eliminate the government's authority to control entry, vet people before they enter, set stricter rules at the border, or punish people who commit fraud to gain entry.

In a separate decision, the Court also allowed the administration to turn away asylum seekers who are still on the Mexico side of the border and have not physically entered the US.

So birthright citizenship may be settled, but the rules for entry and vetting are not.

Just think about what is likely to happen now.

Lamp,

Birthright citizenship is no longer an issue. No reason to even discuss it anymore.

Now the emphasis will be the borders themselves and who is permitted in the country.

All hell will probably break loose vetting and preventing illegal activity such as fraud.

Laura,

Translation?

It's pretty straight forward.

For every action there's a reaction.

So long as birthright was basically a question whether it will stand or how will be interpreted, there wasn't a clear course of action to take next.

The Supreme Court gave Trump a lot of authority establishing guidelines for entering America.

Until you enter the country, you may not request asylum.

So Republicans will likely do what always should have been done all along.

Alex,

Now that birthright is no longer in limbo and has been settled in the court, just sit back and watch what ideas will come from Republicans.

You think Republican ideas are not popular with Democrats now, just wait and see how strict the guidelines will become to get into America and the punishments for breaking the law and comitting fraud.

Lamp,

When they started going after children, for one.

They riled up parents who likely wouldn't have cared if men think they're a woman.

Thats been going on for years.

But during covid a lot of parents saw exactly what was being taught to kids when they began helping their children at home.

Add to that public schools claiming they have the right to withhold information from parents regarding their children.

Thats just one thing.

Don't mess with people's kids.

Lamp,

When they started going after children, for one.

They riled up parents who likely wouldn't have cared if men think they're a woman.

Thats been going on for years.

But during covid a lot of parents saw exactly what was being taught to kids when they began helping their children at home.

Add to that public schools claiming they have the right to withhold information from parents regarding their children.

Thats just one thing.

Don't mess with people's kids.

Clown,

There's something wrong with you.

Being obsessed as you are.

Laura,

You missed me.

Clown,

"The court is compromised"

The same court gave you mail in ballots and clamped down on men who think they are women in sports.

How is that compromised?

Just because you're a sore loser?

Just wait until stricter guidelines for getting over the border come into play.

Clown,

"Why are you back?"

To torment Laura.

She brought my name out of the ashes.

Donner,

One justice said gender dysphoria does not make you another gender just because they believe it.

Sports today....the same opinion will be extrapolated.

Liberals made a mess out of this issue and exceptions will need to be worked out.

Being deemed inadequately evaluated will become more commonplace.

Your opinion what you think you are will not be nearly enough.

Laura,

"BillJohnson is going to loath this. I am tickled to death that he will."

Not especially. It was the right decision.

Military ballots, among others, could have suffered the consequences. If a ballot is postmarked on time, that should be adequate.

I'm also glad the court recognized that biological sex takes precident over what people think they are.

It's time to take a break from posting here.

The insults just take the fun out of it.

My last post will be here.

My friend, Leonard Matlovich, would be so proud if he could see what he began.

In 1975, I knew him personally. While on active duty, he outed himself to his commanding officer and became the first active-duty gay serviceman to challenge the military's policy. He won, helping show that gay people could serve their country proudly.

Coincidentally, we were both processed for discharge that same year.

I experienced the humiliation of the MAAs coming to my barracks and making a big production out of taking all my military gear and uniforms. Someone tipped me off to hide my duffel bag so I would have a way to carry my clothes home. I still have it.

I'll take my leave now.

I've said all I wish to share here.

Friend,

"But for me, my previous generation was The Greatest Generation, a title well-deserved."

What was wrong with your generation?

Friend,

"Never fear the next generation; at one time we were all the next generation"

And every generation complains about the previous generation.

I have work to do...so long.

Snoofy,

I prefer not turning this thread into a sermon.

Just drop the WWJD thing.

Snoofy,

"Be nice to the poor. Give the needy food any money and shelter.
That's not really much of a high standard."

What you aren't understanding about Jesus and His teachings is that He wanted us to place our trust in God above all else.

That wasn't a new idea. The same principle runs throughout the Old Testament.

Again and again, people were warned not to place their faith in wealth, political powers, militaries, possessions, or anything else for their ultimate security and survival.

The Bible repeatedly warns against placing ultimate trust in man or earthly powers instead of God.

Jesus called people to trust God, put Him first, and live unshackled from the things that seek to control them.

How that correlates to welfare and similar programs is subjective and open to interpretation, but the ultimate goal remains putting God first.

Jpw,

"Anti-intellectuals are winning."

OOhhhh.

Are you actually saying liberals are "intellectuals" and conservatives are "anti-intellectuals"?

Are you aware statically 2 thirds of Republicans got at least one vaccine?

And people accuse me of writing with broad stroke.

Db,

And no one does I know either.

The man who wrote a good bit of the New Testament in letters professed he would do things he knew were wrong but did them anyway.

As a Christian we have the teachings of Jesus from the Bible to use as a baseline. Pretty high standards.

Those are the things we see as ideals which are not possible to actually live up to.

Like I said, your friends must have pretty low standards if they can live up to them or maybe down to them....I don't know.

Db,

"Quite a number of people I know do."

That's impossible unless their standards are so low it's like stepping over a rock.

They would need perfect control of their thoughts and every innate emotional response and perfect control of their actions.

They are either lying to you or fooling you or you're lying to me.

How would you really even know for sure about someone to make such a statement?

I don't believe it is true.

Wild,

"Gee whiz these so-called moralists in this administration are such gas lighting hypocrites. As a federal worker, I had to take hours long classes on cool stuff like not being able to buy my immediate boss a lunch that cost more than ten bucks. Heaven forbid I bribe him."

Do you think that started with "this administration"?

Federal employees have been sitting through ethics training and gift rules for decades under both parties.

Friend,

You're free to spread your beliefs.

And I'm free to ignore you and stop reading this thread.

Adios...