from the link in #2

"What's Moore's problem? I don't know and I don't care. The interesting question is why someone so incompetent " apparently he can't even copy numbers correctly " has consistently failed upward.

Trump even tried to put him on the Federal Reserve Board in 2019, and might have succeeded if Moore hadn't also turned out to be a grotesque misogynist and a deadbeat dad who had been held in contempt for failure to pay child support."

;;

Typical Trump, 'only the best people pick'.

Max Planck > Quotes

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."
Max Planck

"Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are a part of the mystery that we are trying to solve."
Max Planck, Where Is Science Going?

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
Max Planck, Scientific Autobiography and Other Papers

"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together.
We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter."
Max Planck

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"I want to say this to the television audience.

I made my mistakes, but in all of my years of public life,
I have never profited, never profited from public service.
I have earned every cent.

And in all of my years of public life, I have never obstructed justice.
And I think, too, that I can say that in my years of public life, that I welcome this kind of examination because people have got to know whether or not their President's a crook.

Well, I'm not a crook.
I've earned everything I've got."

Wong Way Peachfuzz?

Here's the Anti-Trump, Bernie today:

Trump is imitating the worst authoritarian govs on the planet.

He loves those guys! Just ask him, he'll tell you that.

"The Court therefore denies the Government's motion to unseal at the threshold. Contrary to the Government's depiction, the Maxwell grand jury testimony is not a matter of significant historical or public interest. Far from it," Engelmayer wrote.

"Its entire premise " that the Maxwell grand jury materials would bring to light meaningful new information about Epstein's and Maxwell's crimes, or the Government's investigation into them " is demonstrably false," Engelmayer said."

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This is Trump willing to harm the victims in order to distract from his own problems.

The Authoritarian Warning Sign

But to answer the question, you or I might have run away, too, when the Roman soldiers came to arrest Jesus, rather than pulling our swords and taking off the ear of Malchus, a servant of the high priest, to protect Jesus as Simon Peter did. He was pissed.

Know one really knows; Matthew in other places used clothes symbolically, and there are various theories of who he was. I like the young disciple theory, John Mark running away, and tossing the bright white linen cloak that would make him easy to find.

- the young man runs away naked.

I am NOT my Clownshack's keeper!

#50

You have until #69 to admit that was NOT the first time!

So Trump doesn't mobilize the Nat Guard for J6, Pardons the thugs who beat up the Capitol Police... but sends them into DC on a LIE about out of control crime?

The Orange Gaslighter Strikes Again!

He's also Federalizing 4,000 DC police officers.

Locals not happy:

"Free DC! Free DC!"

Funny stuff.

"There are already so many Russian-speaking people there, especially the oligarchs and criminals around Mar-a-Lago."

Zelenskyy seems knowledgeable about the part where Epstein showed Trump around the Mar a Lardo property he was buying. He wanted Trump's opinion on where to put a new pool, I think it was.

But then Trump went behind his best friend's back and put in an offer of $40 million. Epstein knew Trump didn't have the $40 mil, and also knew the Russian Oligarch that Trump got that money from... and then sold it the same Oligarch 2 years later for $90 mil.

Which was a classic money laundering deal that Epstein gave Russian Oligarchs and others lessons on how to execute.

So then Trump dropped a dime on Epstein's pedo bidness before Epstein could turn him in for money laundering.... according to biographer Michael Wolff.

"conservatives killing the Constitution they love because they hate the left more "

How the Elite rigged Society (and why it's falling apart)

#50

See? At least that was attempted humor. Much better than denying the possibility of anything other than materialism as explanatory of phenomena we observe.

- Nah. If he was, he'd brag about it.

#44 | Posted by lee_the_agent

F, Lee... you F'n crack me up!

(pls don't take that as flirting!)

#45

You can start by reading the provided article and then doing your own research. I bet you come up with much the same info that I do.

What you will find is opinions on several sides.... but among professionals sans the animosity we see here so often to anyone who dares to have a different opinion... or even an open mind.

I usually take it as a carry over from the daily threads that get all personal all the time, but really, it's not helpful or productive... though you are not the worst offender by far, and I'm no angel.

- If Jesus was aborted, a lot of wars and deaths of innocents could have been avoided.

Would that be due to his actual Teachings... or to the people that distorted and perverted them to this very day for their own purposes?

Humans can F up anything at all.

- miracles.

Ah... now you're talking! &^)

I appreciate you not being the arrogant absolutist we so often see here... admittedly they are on both sides of the issues. Being open-minded is SO '60's these days!

"No Materialist Theory of Consciousness Is Plausible

All such theories either deny the very thing they are trying to explain, result in absurd scenarios, or end up requiring an immaterial intervention"

Eric Holloway
Senior Fellow, Walter Bradley Center for Natural & Artificial Intelligence

Eric Holloway is a Senior Fellow with the Walter Bradley Center for Natural & Artificial Intelligence, and holds a PhD in Electrical & Computer Engineering from Baylor University. A Captain in the United States Air Force, he served in the US and Afghanistan. He is the co-editor of Naturalism and Its Alternatives in Scientific Methodologies.

Trump SHUTS DC DOWN as Protests BREAK OUT

"While it might sound strange to hear a physicist talking this way, we might wish to keep in mind that

As Eric Holloway points out, no materialist theory of consciousness is plausible and many have been labeled bizarre by people with no ax to grind in the matter.

Simple "explanations" like a consciousness signature or point in the brain have not turned up.

Research that does not assume a materialist approach to the mind has been fruitful. In any event, one of the most widely noted effects in medicine, the placebo effect (you get better in part because you think you will), does not have a materialist explanation.

As neurosurgeon Michael Egnor has noted, the findings of modern medicine have, if anything, confirmed the idea that the mind is immaterial.

Materialism may be taking a beating but science is not."

there are links to each of these assertions at the link

"Frank is an expert on the final stages of the evolution of stars like the sun. His computational research group has developed advanced supercomputer tools in order to study how stars form and die.

So he would incline to a materialist view, surely?

But no, he says, quantum physics blew all that away. And some neuroscientists just haven't caught up:

"A century of agnosticism about the true nature of matter hasn't found its way deeply enough into other fields, where materialism still appears to be the most sensible way of dealing with the world and, most of all, with the mind.

Some neuroscientists think that they're being precise and grounded by holding tightly to materialist credentials. Molecular biologists, geneticists, and many other types of researchers " as well as the nonscientist public " have been similarly drawn to materialism's seeming finality.

But this conviction is out of step with what we physicists know about the material world " or rather, what we don't know.

Adam Frank, "Minding matter" at Aeon"

from "Astrophysicist: Materialism Is on Shaky Ground"

more at the link

When I graduated college with a science degree in psychology and an arts degree in counseling, becoming a coder was a new thing. I tool a look at punch cards and Cobol and decided, "Naw".

And the real crazies at the local asylum scared the bejesus out of me, so I cut my hippy hair, bought a suit, went to the newest office tower on Central Expressway in Dallas, saw an interesting looking company on the Directory in the lobby, and went up and got a job. (it was around the corner from the very first Chili's, and near the nightlife on Greenville Ave, so that was also a factor!)

I picked up computer technology, or at least it's concepts and buzz words quickly, and was a success at recruiting and placing software engineers, which was a newish category of work at the time.

A year later, I opened the Boston-based companies first Office in the Silicon Valley. The moral of the story being that a surging industry provides indirect as well as direct employment of all sorts.

But with AI... well, if we are all alive a decade from now, there may be little need for workers at all, and with authoritarian govs, unneeded people are, well, disposable.

Also hilarious is people adement about the details and circumstances of events they claim could not have possibly occurred.