#92 lol you have no idea how detached from reality your views are.

Why?

Seriously, do you have any idea of how rigorous the efforts are for containment, decontamination and protection are for a virus like Ebola?

I interviewed for a job at a facility with a BSL IV level lab. Was told flat out that if I took the job I would be contractually obligated to have at least one project at BSL IV. So I asked questions about the responses/procedures for a suspected exposure and was given a tour of the facility.

Let's just say it's extremely rigorous.

For this, you're talking about a lab that's in a gated facility, inside an isolated security controlled building that required turning in cell phones and going through metal detectors for entry and then had three concentric inner rings with the lab facilities being the inner most. Each ring required badging in at locked doors, lab entry required showering/scrubbing (changing into scrubs) in and then showering out before leaving while wearing isolation suits connected to outside air sources for breathing while in the lab. When exiting, there was required simultaneous gas and shower decon of the isolation suits so you could then shower out and change back in to street clothes.

The engineering floor for air handling and decontamination and waste water handling/decontamination was incredible.

For a suspected exposure? There was (is? could have changed by now) a dedicated isolation ward within the inner most level of the facility where you would be isolated and treatment initiated while you waited for transport to the major regional medical center. There was a contract with said medical center where they would convert a wing of the ICU into an isolation ward for your arrival and treatment within 24 hours of notification of a suspected exposure. When they were ready, you would be loaded into a sealed pod with full life support (obviously...) so you could be safely loaded on to a gurney for ambulance transport to the medical center and then safely transferred into the now closed isolation wing where you would be treated and either survive or die.

But sure. It wouldn't at all be disruptive it ever got here and there's no worry anyway because you're more likely to catch HIV at a truck stop...

No large Ebola outbreaks have ever occurred in a developed country, and it's extremely unlikely to happen.

Ummmmm yeah, because it's not endemic in a developed country and the normal level of monitoring in the past meant we immediately knew if travelers from a specific region could potentially be infected.

Your confidence is unwarranted given the crumbling of public health in the US and our withdrawal from WHO.

There were a number of cases when people traveled from West Africa during the massive epidemic in 2014-2016, but they were contained almost immediately, preventing any widespread community transmission.

Because. There. Was. A. Rational. Level. Of. Monitoring.

You're applying old norms that no longer exist. Even the competency here has dropped massively thanks to the Orange Chomo.

There's no way it's going to be as widespread as an airborne disease.

Probably not, no, for multiple reasons. But it doesn't have to be as widespread to be a problem.

But hey, keep trying to score points on the internet. There are at least two trolls who are grateful to you for that.

#29 | Posted by sentinel

I couldn't care less about points. You came out swinging accusing another poster of posting misinformation while posting less than accurate information yourself on a topic you have no relevant qualifications to speak so confidently about.

LOL stupidest post of the year.

I love how "progressives" are jumping on the TrUmP tRiNsZ in the race to the bottom thinking it will make them win.

Good luck with that.

You do realize you're advocating for demagoguery, authoritarianism and flat out selling out the very people who voted for you, right?

How f*&^ing desperate are you? Hope you sell your soul for more than 9 pieces of silver, sport.

#6 | Posted by oneironaut

Seriously, how f*&^ing stupid is this worthless piece of lying s*&^?

Democrats were never very proud of their country.

F*&^ off, s*&^bag.

Which is odd, even under Obama, they were less patriotic than Republicans.

Republican "patriotism" isn't real patriotism. It's jingoism.

Only a piece of s*&^ fake "c-c-conservative" would make that statement with a straight face.

How does a party of Coalition, with the extremes barely in agreement about anything, Compete with a Cult in Lockstep with "Dear Leader" no matter how much he Changes the Game mid stream?

Simply.

Embrace the coalition nature and recognize it's essence is the lack of one sized fits all nature of the constituencies.

The reason MAGA is such a cult is because of the relative homogeneity of the right. Go to any random rural s*&^hole in the US and you'll find a solid 60-70% of what you experience is consistent from s*&^hole to s*&^hole.

Hell, you even have rural dips*&^s in states like NY hanging Confederate flags...

Who else but Democrats are going to stop Trump, MAGA and the GOP in 2026????

Regale us, smart boi.

#76 | Posted by A_Friend

These idiots wouldn't know pragmatism if it smacked 'em in the taint.

Mamdani is proving the out races can pay to make our lives better.

Meanwhile. People like you keep telling everyone not to expect anything from our taxes and to shut up and vote for democrats.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack

Mamdani proved a Dem matched to their constituents will win.

Meanwhile, they're proving nothing broadly because it's an N of 1 and nobody outside of NYC is benefiting from his win. Don't be a typical "progressive" who desperately interprets every win as a major impact of your ideas, that is the exact reason the Dems never hold power.

The rest of your post is just a straw man pile of s*&^.

Keep voting for democrats who do nothing because their corporate owners won't let them.

Mamdani is putting the DNC to shame.

#69 | Posted by ClownShack

Mamdani wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell in some districts. There ZERO reason to nominate someone like him there.

Your problem is you want your "progressive" s*&^ everywhere even if it's a losing proposition.

But here's reality for you, not all districts are the same no matter how much you sneer at the Dems in those districts for not being pure enough.

#66 WTF is that supposed to mean?

#67 | Posted by A_Friend

It means stop paying attention to reality where people are most concerned with things that directly affect their lives like cost of living, energy, jobs, inflation, out of control government...

Basically, the average person's life is falling apart before their eyes but not pushing anti-Israel to the top of the list because clownshart thinks it belongs there means you're Republican lite.

Like the DNC's obsession with Russia funding the GOP?

Absurd, right?

#63 | Posted by ClownShack

Totally the same thing.

Back channel pay for play vs out in the open, tracked lobbying. Sure.

Idiot.

Keep flailing. You might hit on a correct statement eventually.

It makes you both look like idiots.

It's being used in response to you because your post sounds like you're an idiot.

America will keep losing until Democrats start putting the needs of working class Americans first.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack

Which is exactly why this AIPAC/Israel obsession is absurd.

Because...wait for it...issues directly effecting voters are bigger drivers of voting habits!

Do you realize how much egg is on your face with this line? LOL

You said that all through COVID.

You sound as stupid now as you did then.

I doubled down on accurate information.

1-10 virions as an infectious dose is highly contagious.

Spread is pretty well understood, but full lifecycle, especially in the wild, is not.

If not controlled rapidly and properly, it could represent a bigger problem than COVID. That doesn't necessarily mean more dead, but economically, politically and socially the disruption could be much greater than COVID.

You're more likely to catch HIV at a truck stop.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Do you have any idea what the containment and disinfection procedures are for dealing with Ebola? Why? Because like I said, the infectious dose is very low and it's stable in the environment for days. You could touch a contaminated door knob and then rub your eye and not even know you've infected yourself until symptoms start. You can be infected by droplet transmission if an infected individual is coughing in your near vicinity (no it's not airborne in the true definition).

There's a reason people dealing with patients or decontaminating spaces where a patient was held are dressed head to toe in disposable, water proof clothing like Tyvek suits/booties/hoods, heavy duty rubber work boots and gloves (probably latex/nitrile gloves underneath that that are taped/sealed to the wrists of the Tyvek), with sealed goggles to protect the eyes, face shields and respirators. When they step out of the space they're cleaning top to bottom with bleach and other disinfectants, they themselves are sprayed down with bleach and other disinfectants while the stand in a bath of disinfectant to fully sanitize the bottoms and sides of the boots.

Ebola is difficult and expensive to deal with, which is why the standard practice before pedo Musk and the Orange Chomo gutted USAID was to catch it as quickly as possible by constant monitoring and dealing with outbreaks before they spread to additional locations.

It could become a problem not because of ease of spread but because the ability to overwhelm official's abilities and resources to deal with it.

Yes yes, it's not that your pet issue isn't seen as being that important to many/most of your fellow voters, it's that posters here are just Israeli plants sUpPrExZiNg your ideas...

I'll believe it when I see actual data beyond safety and immunological analysis beyond antibody responses (historically an easy measure but poor proxy for overall efficacy). Universal vaccines for influenza have been a highly sought after outcome for decades with none of them actually working or, in some cases, new science showing the rationalizations behind some candidates no longer holding up as sound reasoning.

But if it does work out, then this would be a major breakthrough that could/maybe be applied to other virus families.

Duhhhh I KnOw YoU ArZe bUt WhAt Am I!!!?!!??!

Keep pushing for the prioritization of an issue most people will tune out, the Republicans will thank you for it.

Both protests were financed by same NGOs.

#8 | Posted by visitor_

Believe it or not, dumbf*&^, your s*&^ worldview is so reprehensible people don't need to be paid to protest it.

How big of a pile of s*&^ do you have to be to think this way?

Don't answer, it was a rhetorical question you won't understand.

Keep ignoring it and let's see how it plays out.

Republicans couldn't be any happier.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack

Pointing out that domestic issues directly affecting voters is the primary driver of voting habits isn't ignoring the Israel/Gaza issue.

It's literally saying they're bigger drivers of voting habits.

This isn't hard. Well, it isn't unless you're trying to sooth your biases by convincing yourself your bubble is bigger and more meaningful than it really is.

Sorry, that post was to Sentinel.

You shouldn't spread misinformation while trying to correct what you're not correctly calling out as misinformation.

Ebola is extremely contagious with an infections dose of 1-10 virions and can be stable in bodily fluids on environmental surfaces for days.

It also doesn't have an "extremely" high mortality rate as mortality rate is highly dependent on strain and quality of palliative care and can range from as low as 25% to 90%. The deadliest virus known is rabies, which has a 99% mortality rate if not treated.

The primary driver of the difference in response would be people believing it's a "real" problem because they know what it is from pop culture and they think the definition of a pandemic is based on fatality rates. Even then, I'm not sure will matter until it because widespread enough for people to have it hit close to home. The current outbreak in Africa is still confined to Africa and there's already social media channels posting s*&^ like "RESIST" or "Don't take their NWO vaccine!" type nonsense.

Now Texas will be demanding soshulizm to help them deal with this, I'm sure.

I love how they "stand alone" until their own stupidity bites them in the a&&. Then they have their hand out wanting assistance while acting like they're not taking it.