"Tariffs are a tax, Trump has enacted the largest tax hike in your lifetime
#51 | Posted by snoofy"

And how was this tax paid -------? Through higher prices? I have to ask as the rate of inflation shows that you are full of ----.

"Guess who paid for this surplus?
#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

Chinese manufacturers and middlemen - NOT US consumers as clearly shown in the inflation data that shows Core inflation right now at an annualize rate of 1.6% and Total inflation at 0.8% - those American workers got the largest boost in real wages (wage gain net of inflation) in the last 60 years.

"#44 | Posted by ClownShack"

So, you don't admit you were wrong in your original reply, you offer zero data, and then you switch topics.

Not only that, but you are questioning something that EVERYONE already knows to be true - that illegal border crossing are down 95%+ under Trump compared to Biden.

Did you take debating lessons from Lamplighter? Seems you are adopting his style.

"You're also the idiot who believes minimum wage is low because of undocumented immigrants.
#41 | Posted by ClownShack"

So, you think Trump closing the border and deporting illegals just happens to coincide with the highest real wage growth in the US in the past 60 years? Okay then.

Like I said above - how about you try again with logic or data?

"No they're not.
#40 | Posted by ClownShack"

You want to try again with actual data or logic this time -------? Your 'trust me bro' sourcing has zero credibility.

"Illegal immigrants aren't the reason houses are expensive.
#38 | Posted by ClownShack"

Yes, they are. They are not the ONLY reason, but they are the MAJOR reason. At the median price home and below, the houses have a much higher % used as rentals. The price of the house will ALWAYS be a rental multiple (CAP Rate model). The higher the rental potential for a house, the higher the price. Thus, when illegals are renting (they are not living in tents), they created artificial rental demand, and thus, artificial pricing pressure on homes. This is the same exact reason why AirBNB drives up housing prices - it is the rental yield potential that drives up the home value.

Obviously, you are a lifelong renter so you don't understand this concept.

"Scotts continues his pointless two man crusade against our former ally canada.
#31 | Posted by Alexandrite"

Just because ring worm always existed does not justify letting it continue to spread on your body.

Why are liberals so interested in what other countries think about you? Your virtue signaling in the US is bad enough - but your constant obsession over how ------- Europeans or Canadians think about you is wild. Is it because your fathers were absent or didn't love you?

In the case of you and Clownshack, I think your homosexuality (closeted for you, militant for Clownshack) probably played a role in that. A good game of catch with your dad would have made your lives turn out much better.

"The top U.S. imports from Canada include crude oil, refined gas, natural gas, motor oil, auto parts, electricity, raw aluminum, sawed wood (2x4, 2x6 etc), fertilizer for farming, and much more."

The top imports from Canada are literally things WE ALREADY HAVE HERE but choose to import because of ridiculous liberal regulatory and trade policies. All that changes with Trump - we don't need ---- from Canada. There is a reason why 80% of your total population lives 100 miles from the US border - because you are totally reliant parasites. We tolerated you when you were howdy-doody nice people - but, you have transformed into the slightly more ignorant version of the US liberal left. Well, we are going to let you take the full force of your voting. We cut you off and you can go hitch your wagon the economic illiterates in Europe.

"Home and auto insurers will likely be raising premiums due to more expensive building materials and auto parts.
#34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

Home prices in the US are going to decrease with the illegals deported as demand drops (for rentals mainly) offset by slightly higher costs on labor as it will now be done by Americans.

BTW, the Canadian numbers are so terrible that University of Waterloo had to stop publishing its quality of life index in 2014, the country has had ZERO productivity growth since 2019, and has the lowest OECD expected GDP growth of ~0.7% annually through 2060 (lowest among 38 members).

This is because Snow Mexicans have doubled down on their ------- government that has a 15 year track record of producing these exact same results. They did this to 'get Trump'...

Meanwhile, 'elbows up' has been transformed into 'face down, ass up' as the US imposed economy killing tariffs on the country - and your unemployment rate (adjusted to US standards) is 20% higher than the US and that is before the full impact of the tariffs kill your auto industry.

"#26 | Posted by REDIAL"

Which stat is wrong -------? Now, don't claim it is wrong because it hurts your fee-fees, post ACTUAL DATA.

"Trump has created uncertainty in the market which has in turn reduced consumer confidence and led to large reduction in discretionary spending."

Inflation adjusted discretionary spending is just fine - the 'dip' in consumer confidence is largely driven by media narrative (spike in inflation and mass layoffs) that never came to pass and now US citizens are basically tuning out their continual fake news. The ACTUAL DATA tells the truth - REAL WAGES growing at the fastest rate in 60 years. Core inflation at 1.6% (20% below the Fed target). Total Inflation at 0.8% (almost unheard of in modern times). 2M+ native workers back working and being productive again.

"In addition your tourism industry has died off despite the dollar falling 10%."

Less foreign trash - American are traveling just fine and benefiting from the very low gas prices (thanks Trump!). The less Euro-trash and Canadians clogging up our roads, the better.

"This despite the reality most of "Liberty Day" tariffs have been delayed and the market now views him as a blowhard that lacks the balls to follow through."

Effective tariffs at our ports for the last several months has been ~20%. This occurred with the total lack of inflation and massive jobs losses that you ------- liberals had been predicting. The only ones quoting the TACO nonsense are the liberals trying to get any small win that they can - the reality is that they just demonstrate how they do not understand how to negotiate. Probably explains why liberals are economic losers.

"Killing demand and creating stagflation will help tamper inflation but it will lead to mass unemployment in the long run.
#62 | Posted by Scotty"

Highest real wage growth in the last 60 years and inflation at 1.6% (core) and 0.8% (total) show you to be a lying -------.

Maybe you should focus on your problems up in Canada because we don't have your problems here.

"#11 | Posted by snoofy"

"#21 | Posted by REDIAL"

Doing a real bang up job there ------- Canucks - keep your current government and get that food insecurity rate up to 50%! You have doubled it in the last 25 years, you can double it again!

Also, this should go without saying at this point - you should not link to a poll or an article about the poll if the poll refused to release their cross tabs.

Gallup is one of the worst offenders and given their recent history of being a huge outlier poll, no one should take them seriously.

Lastly, here is the latest 'polling game'

We will always get weightings for GOP, Dem, and Independent.

However, as everyone but the dumbest individuals has fled the toxic brand, we have more and more of the 'Independents' who are actually 100% Democrats but embarrassed to admit it. That is why you are seeing a shift in 'Independents' which is not real - these are just embarrassed Democrats. That is why every poll should be required to ask: who did you vote for in 2024? If the sample does not show a 50% voter support for Trump, it is not a real sample. That is why NPR, etc will never ask this question - because they aren't interested in reporting the current sentiment of the country, they are interested in DRIVING THE SENTIMENT.

"Trump needs approximately 30% of Americans to support him in order to control the Electoral College.
#3 | Posted by ClownShack"

Trump is not on the ballot again -------. He is doing what he thinks is right and what he promised to do in the 2024 election when it comes to immigration and I 100% support it. Yes, we were always going to get the 'heartbreaking stories' and liberals screaming out in pain as their brown slaves are taken away - but within a year, the positive impacts will be very clear. Spending will decrease drastically, schools will work again, and wages and US citizen employment will continue to skyrocket.

To think that native born employment has increased by 2M people, nearly 1.5%, in just 5 months is absolutely wild. Those people will finally be able to get off from welfare and be productive. Now, their kids can focus on actually learning vs. having their resources diverted to ESL programs and trying to bring migrants 3 levels below grade level up to a minimum standard.

This is the beginning of the American Renaissance.

And to think, in 20 years time, you ------- liberals will have to look at the younger generation that will live much better lives as a result and tell them - yeah, we fought against all of that! We wanted you to compete for jobs with illegals here in the US. Yeah, the boomers wanted us to compete with the low wage workers overseas - but we put that policy on steroids and wanted you to compete right here in the USA! And your schools - it is racist not to dumb down the curriculum to a 3rd world standard. Having zero kids proficient in both math and English in an entire school system like Baltimore is completely normal and shows the good job our union teachers are doing.

"Scotts, you're obviously a smart guy. There is no way to have a real, meaningful exchange with gaslighter. He's incapable.
#43 | Posted by visitor"

You are 100% correct with this post. He is back on my ignore list. Somehow, he is incapable of actually absorbing any new information - that, paired with never acknowledging that he was wrong even after being presented the actual data - makes it a fruitless debate.

"You can't possibly believe a 30% tariff on goods from EU and Mexico will only create inflation once.
#56 | Posted by snoofy"

That is how math works -------.

The prices inflate a single time where they are captured in the inflation rate and then the rate stays close to zero translating into 'continuing high prices' but not part of the rate of inflation. Sort of like the difference between velocity and speed. However, in the case of Trump - not even that happened as there was no meaningful inflation at all and the effective rate at our ports is already ~20%.

"I have no doubt you'll blame Biden this time as well.
#58 | Posted by jpw"

You -------- are the absolutely worse - you are made at Trump FOR INFLATION THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED DESPITE YOUR PREDICTIONS and yet, you gave a complete pass to Biden for the ACTUAL worse inflation since at least the early 80s.

As I told you before, stick to washing beakers -------, this economic stuff is beyond you.

There are too many -------- to respond to individually so I will write a single collective response as you all basically say the same moronic thing: "just wait, inflation is coming because of the tariffs!"

The problem for you -------- is that you have been saying the same thing for the last 4 months - and yet - inflation is below the Fed's 2% target, which is much lower than any sustained number Biden put up even with the tariffs.

The reason this happens is that you -------- STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND TARIFFS. Tariffs drive substitution in product selection - hence, retailers cannot simply pass on the tariff cost to consumers.

The net effect - AS PROVEN BY THE INFLATION DATA - is that the US government collects tariffs (~20% effective currently at the ports) and prices don't increase as proven by the inflation data as the tariffs are eaten by suppliers and middlemen.

Also, I have focused on CORE inflation - but the reality for Trump is that we should focus in TOTAL inflation. I say this as Trump's economic policies are predicated on reducing energy prices - and the decreased energy input will lead to very low inflation or even price decreases. That is exactly what we see with the total inflation numbers - annualized rate of 0.8% (less than half of the Fed target).

Lastly, this is paired with kicking out the illegals for 2 added benefits:
1.) US Citizen Wages and US Citizen # of workers goes up
2.) We save BILLIONS on social services (medicaid, school, etc) by having the illegals deported

Thus for for point 1 - US native born employment is up 2M jobs since Trump took office AND we had the we had the highest REAL WAGE GROWTH in 60 years due to wages going up paired with low inflation.

We have yet to see the big savings from point 2 above because the deportation (forced and voluntary) haven't been reflected in reduced need for the services (we will see this in the 2026 budget resets). For instance, for K-12 public schools, we are likely to see a 10-15% drop in enrollment with the illegals being deported (includes illegal kids taking their anchor babies back to their home country).

Yes - I know this hurts liberal fee-fees because the economic plan is working exactly as it was designed and exactly as I told you it would - but your hurt fee-fees DOES NOT CHANGE REALITY.

"You're either posting information you don't understand from grok, or posting personal attacks hoping to insult."

I use Grok to look up data - I am the one that forms the arguments. That is the difference between people like you and me. I use Grok to speed up research - you outsource your thinking to AI. That is why you have yet to make a single data-driven post in response to anything I ever posted. Without AI to think for you, you are left as a sputtering militant homosexual with nothing to post but raw emotions.

"I'm not sure when you first started the DR and what your original name was, but you couldn't hold a candle to the original band of trolls who posted here."

I am not trolling - I am trying to educate the dumbest of society: the -------.

"You're just angry and boring. Who cares.
#41 | Posted by ClownShack"

Yes, I can totally understand why my posts are boring for you. You are intellectually unequipped to respond. Getting beat like a rented mule on the daily must be truly exhausting for you. But do go on and prove me wrong - write a DATA DRIVEN response to anything that I have posted in this thread. You can't and you won't because you lack the intelligence to do so.

"#38 | Posted by ClownShack"

I am starting to think you -------- get a perverse sexual thrill from me kicking your asses daily - like how Danforth likes to invite guys over to his house to bang his wife while he watches from the corner. Is your daily ass kicking some form of humiliation ritual which gives you sexual gratification?

"#35 | Posted by jpw"

Lol, your jealousy knows no bounds - kinda pathetic actually. That is why I could buy your services at an hourly rate equal to a McDonald's value meal - because you never learned a useful skill OR you learned it but applied it so incompetently that you are stuck at unskilled labor wages.

"No, you laid out what a sycophantic dumbf(*& you are and how willing you are to create stats based off cherry picked data sets.
#34 | Posted by jpw"

So again - you don't think the rate inflation for the last 3 months is the relevant gauge of inflation? You think it is more relevant to include data points from July 2024 under the mismanagement of ------- Biden and pre-tariffs policy changes? Because unless you actually think that, I have no idea what point you are trying to make. And - if you do actually believe that - it is probably one of the many reasons that you have been a total and complete economic failure in this life.

"You speak as someone who hasn't accomplished s(*& in life on their own.
#16 | Posted by jpw"

Now, you and I both know that is not true Beaker. But, the solution to your problem is to try harder and make something of your life rather than keep looking at mine with jealousy.

"#14 | Posted by LauraMohr"

I also wish that you would move to Canada.