Let me start by saying I have no idea what happened.

Let me continue that you should believe nothing that comes from this administration, nothing.

First words out of the dude's mouth are "God is Good"? REALLY?

That smells of a white Christian nationalist fantasy

Why send multiple transport aircraft to pick up 1 airman?

Why is that dude not all over US media-the propaganda value would be through the roof?

This sounds like an Operation Eagle Claw 2 scenario

Official narrative makes no sense.

/i/status/2040995918192005310

So, if I got that right, here's the narrative:

A US F-15E fighter jet got shot down over Iran, despite Trump saying 2 days beforehand in his nationwide address that Iran has "no anti-aircraft equipment. Their radar is 100% annihilated." (apnews.com/article/donald ... )

The Media is more angry about Trump saving a US Service Member in Iran than Biden getting 13 US Service Members killed in Afghanistan.

#38 | Posted by MSgt a

LOL, the withdrawal from Afghanistan was an incredible success given we were fleeing a losing war.

---- thousands of civilians and troops died when we fled Vietnam

Perspective

Truth Hurts

Iranians urged to rally at power plants
Alireza Rahimi, Iran's deputy minister of youth and sports, has called on Iranians, including youth, artists and athletes, to form human chains at power plants across the country at 2pm (10:30 GMT) tomorrow to denounce the US bombing threats against the facilities.

"We will stand hand in hand to say: Attacking public infrastructure is a war crime," he said in a social media post.

Rahimi's statement follows Trump's threats to attack Iranian civilian infrastructure, including bridges and power plants, if the Strait of Hormuz is not fully reopened.

I am sure that our noble and honorable military will REFUSE to commit war crimes!

I have been hearing for months how our military should and in fact MUST refuse illegal orders, though that hasn't stopped them from murdering Venezuelans, and kidnapping Venezuela's president and committing daily war crimes in Piggy's illegal war of aggression, but who knows maybe blowing up a human chain made of mothers and children might stop them

I don't think it will, but who knows

This is yet another aspect of this authoritarian fascist war.

We are not entitled to debate this war, its legality or necessity

We are not entitled for our representatives to vote on it

We are not entitled to know the damage we have received from it

We are not entitled to know the cost of this war

We are not entitled to refusing to fund a genocide, war crimes, pogroms and atrocities by our "Ally"

We are not entitled to have any input into how the war will end

We are not entitled to know how many soldiers have been killed or wounded

We are not entitled to this administration not committing war crimes in our name

We are entitled to pay for it

We are entitled to lose our children, spouses and parents to it

We are entitled to have our economy destroyed by it

We are entitled to be tied to an evil regime in Israel, without any discussion

Thanks magat scum

Iow I ask simple straightforward questions and you respond with non sequitors

Does Israel have aspirations for destroying Iran?

Does Israel have aspirations for destroying the Palestinians in Gaza?

Does Israel have aspirations for destroying the Palestinians in the West Bank?

Does Israel have aspirations at seizing southern Lebanon?

BTW I gave you a detailed workable solution.

You, Netanyahu and Piggy don't want a workable solution.

Speak,
This thing with Iran has been building for decades.
When do you think it should be brought to an end?
If not now, when?
They have aspirations of destroying Isreal.
I'm not saying exactly what I think but Ive asked repeatedly how we should deal with this ambition of Iran's.
Its not our problem so stay out?
Im asking you.
If youre going to rant about Trump's actions, you should offer an idea of a genuine workable solution that doesn't just push the problem to someone else.

#74 | Posted by BillJohnson

I know you won't answer this but why are we siding with Israel in that dispute?

You ask what Jesus would say?
What do you think He'd say about defending Israel, the very land where He walked, from those who openly call for its destruction?
And what do you think He'd say about defending the Jewish people?
Defending your people isn't wrong.
Ignoring evil is.

#72 | Posted by BillJohnso

Facts

Israel is committing a genocide
Israel is waging wars of aggression
Israel is committing war crimes
Israel is conducting pogroms
Israel is targeting journalists
Israel is seizing another country's land
Israel is targeting EMS workers
Israel is torturing children
Israel is targeting UN Peacekeepers

Israel is evil

It is pathological to equate a fictional character with any of the evil is enacting.

Jeff is ok with sticking botox in some pre teen's forehead so she can win a beauty contest, but has major ethical problems with a teen receiving hormone therapy to allow them to feel like their bodies match their identity.

Of course, jeff is a pedo so there is that

Yes, some child beauty pageant contestants undergo cosmetic procedures, although this is generally rare and often involves non-surgical enhancements rather than permanent surgical operations.

Again

Breast augmentation to win a teen beauty contest is fine and dandy

Breast augmentation to make a trans girl feel like her body matches her identify is .."...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

Seems far more likely that the generic teen beauty contest performer was pressured into that life by their parents while a trans minor has to fight all sorts of societal obstacles to get that care

You are talking about mitigating the healthy bodies of minors.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger a

You're babbling incoherent hate

Nope. I'm saying if a gender confused boy's body is producing extremely low levels of testosterone which is impairing physical development a supplement is treated no different than for a non gender confused boy.

#111 | Posted by BellRinger

I am clear on what you are saying

the EXACT SAME PROCEDURE cannot be performed on a trans minor that can be performed on a trans minor. the underlying condition warranting that procedure is immaterial.

Of course Rogaine is not medically recommended for minors and we are talking about minors.

#106 | Posted by BellRinger

Once again,

WRONG

Off-Label Medical Use: In rare cases, dermatologists may prescribe minoxidil "off-label" to treat pediatric hair disorders like alopecia areata. This must be done under strict professional supervision to monitor for side effects.

to be clear breast augmentation to win a teen beauty contest is fine and dandy

breast augmentation to make a trans girl feel like her body matches her identify is .."...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

Where is all of your outrage for the 260,000 cosmetic procedures done on minors with NO MEDICAL NECESSITY?

But to alleviate the pain of a trans minor those procedures are "...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."?

One thing is clear allowing jeff to further discuss this issue once again proves how much of a hateful bigot he is.

Breast reduction to alleviate health problems that come with an excessively sized rack is completely different than lopping them off.

#101 | Posted by BellRinger

So if a trans minor would like breast reduction and not a total mastectomy, you would be ok with that?

WHere is the line when breast reduction becomes "...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."?

Those are distinct physical conditions.

#99 | Posted by BellRinger

So, you are saying a trans minor cannot receive THE EXACT SAME PROCEDURE because..."...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."

Yes, a cisgender minor can receive hormone replacement therapy (HRT) or similar hormone-related medical treatments, but it is highly specialized and dependent on the medical necessity, such as treating conditions like precocious puberty (early puberty) or hormone deficiencies.

Key aspects of body alterations in cis minors include:
Cosmetic Surgery & Aesthetic Procedures: There is an increasing interest and prevalence in cosmetic surgery among cisgender participants aged 12"21. In the U.S., over 260,000 cosmetic procedures were performed on individuals 19 and under in 2023, representing a 7% increase from 2022.

Common Procedures:
Breast Reduction: This is a common procedure for cisgender male teens dealing with gynecomastia (enlarged breast tissue).
Breast Augmentation: Performed on cisgender females.
Rhinoplasty (Nose jobs) and other aesthetic procedures.

Seems to me a cis minor can get all of the gender affirming care they want, permanently altering the bodies in all sorts of ways

Rogaine is gender affirming care for men, can we agree on that?

#89 | Posted by snoofy

So are nose jobs

HRT is typically used for women dealing with menopause issues. You know, adults.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger

Wrong

HRT can be used to delay puberty or to supply estrogen or testosterone for minors with low levels

A trans minor needs the procedure for a different purpose

Why is the exact same procedure when provided to cis minors you don't see that as "...permanent life altering medical procedures with serious potential health issues resulting from said procedures. This is barbaric and cruel."