"Mesa County District Attorney Daniel P. Rubinstein, a Republican who prosecuted Peters, said earlier this year that politics did not play into her case.

"Ms. Peters was indicted by a grand jury of her peers, and convicted at trial by the jury of her peers that she selected," Rubinstein told the Associated Press in a statement."

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Why are American Juries always SO wrong when they convict Trump and his Cultists?

They shoulda just replaced the guy sitting in the chair next to the barrel with... Trump and a 13 year old cheerleader sitting on his lap.

You know, realism in advertising!

#68

and what did you think of Waldman's book on the subject

None of the quote from #58 had been refuted.

And the articles in 16 and 57 are the same... but your credentials on this subject may be better than those of

Michael Waldman is president of the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law. He is the author of The Second Amendment: A Biography.

and no, I'm not downloading that book at #60... even if you get a commission on it!

#60.... see #61

The point being that this isn't just about Justice Brennan's personal opinion as you claimed;

Michael Waldman is president of the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law. He is the author of The Second Amendment: A Biography.

he pretty much wrote the book on it

57 is the exact same article as 16, the Politico article, the author runs the Brennan Center for Justice for the NYU School of Law

#19

Admitting that you are more about thinking you might one day 'own you a lib!' than the travesty of Fraud, Rape, and Treason we have for a President is mighty big of you.

More self-concerned than patriotic, but hey, that's what freedom is all about; you can be as disloyal to America as you like, as long as you are enjoying being an idiot instead.

*From 1888, when law review articles first were indexed, through 1959, every single one on the Second Amendment concluded it did not guarantee an individual right to a gun.

The first to argue otherwise, written by a William and Mary law student named Stuart R. Hays, appeared in 1960. He began by citing an article in the NRA's American Rifleman magazine and argued that the amendment enforced a "right of revolution," of which the Southern states availed themselves during what the author called "The War Between the States."

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"There is not a single word about an individual's right to a gun for self-defense or recreation in Madison's notes from the Constitutional Convention.

Nor was it mentioned, with a few scattered exceptions, in the records of the ratification debates in the states. Nor did the U.S. House of Representatives discuss the topic as it marked up the Bill of Rights.

In fact, the original version passed by the House included a conscientious objector provision. "A well regulated militia," it explained, "composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person."

Though state militias eventually dissolved, for two centuries we had guns (plenty!) and we had gun laws in towns and states, governing everything from where gunpowder could be stored to who could carry a weapon"and courts overwhelmingly upheld these restrictions. Gun rights and gun control were seen as going hand in hand.

Four times between 1876 and 1939, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to rule that the Second Amendment protected individual gun ownership outside the context of a militia.

As the Tennessee Supreme Court put it in 1840, "A man in the pursuit of deer, elk, and buffaloes might carry his rifle every day for forty years, and yet it would never be said of him that he had borne arms; much less could it be said that a private citizen bears arms because he has a dirk or pistol concealed under his clothes, or a spear in a cane."

from the article in #57

How the NRA Rewrote the Second Amendment

The Founders never intended to create an unregulated individual right to a gun. Today, millions believe they did. Here's how it happened.

#52 |

It's not just his personal opinion; he cites the facts of past supporting decisions for most of our history. It's also the opinion of many people, including the article author:

"Michael Waldman is president of the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law. He is the author of The Second Amendment: A Biography.".

And he makes a good case in the article as well.

#48

The NRA bought and paid for that 'Right' in 2008.

see #16

Nice whataboutism... if the point is supposed to be calling out some claimed hypocrisy.

As for what people have conducted the most acts of Domestic Terrorism in this this country, that would still be violent rwing white nationalist groups and individuals.

#8

Seems to have confused DonnerB and I in his laughable retort.

Confucius say, "Man who have s...t for brains have birds on head."

Ah so, Bluftwaffer doesn't mind that his Cult Leader and Traitor in Chief was convicted by a Jury of his Peers on several more counts of Fraud... to add the the several dozen other convictions he has.

Loyalty to Trump is the most important factor, not that his, "President is NOT a crook!".

"Russia says Ukraine not interested' in long-term peace

Comments by Russia's FM come as Ukraine's Zelenskyy says security guarantees needed before Putin meeting.

Lavrov also repeated Russia's policy that Russian President Vladimir Putin is ready to meet with Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelenskyy " but only after key issues have previously been worked out by senior officials in what could be a long negotiating process.

His comments came as Zelenskyy announced he could meet with Putin, but only after his allies agree to security guarantees for Ukraine to deter future Russian attacks once the fighting stops.

In comments released on Thursday, Zelenskyy also warned that both sides were preparing for further fighting. Russia was building up troops on the southern front line and Ukraine was test-launching a new long-range cruise missile, he said."

from the thread article

MOSCOW, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Vladimir Putin is demanding that Ukraine give up all of the eastern Donbas region, renounce ambitions to join NATO, remain neutral and keep Western troops out of the country, three sources familiar with top-level Kremlin thinking told Reuters.

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another:

"A senior NATO defense official pointed out that Putin's wish list was not unexpected and voiced suspicion that he could add to his list of demands in the future.

"Whatever helps to stall," the official, who spoke to Fox News Digital on the condition of anonymity, said.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov raised geopolitical eyebrows this week when he claimed in a televised interview that Moscow has "never talked about the need to seize any territories."

(huh?)

Instead, his comments escalated concern that Putin's ultimate war aim is the control of Kyiv, rather than physical occupation of all of Ukraine, which Russian forces have been unable to achieve.

Lavrov said the Kremlin's goal is to "protect" Ukrainians from their own government and argued "there can be no talk of any long-term agreements" with Kyiv "without respect" for Russia's security and the rights of Russian speakers in Ukraine, the Institute for the Study of War reported this week.

"These are the reasons that must be urgently eliminated in the context of a settlement," Lavrov added."

These are like IQ sponges for kids... I mean, if it's not wise to give a freakin' phone to kids under 13, then...?

BJ is in denial... almost like he's in a Cult.

One that buh-lieves that dozens of Trump's Staff, including his top, hand-picked DOJ staff, testifying under Oath to his crimes... were all really Dem Crisis Actors.

SO, it's a non-reality situation.

They said the fine was excessive after finding him guilty of 4 out of 5 counts... and it will now go on further Appeal:

"Aug 21, 2025 Legal AF Podcast

Don't believe the Headlines;

Trump is not the victor in the appeal of his $463 million dollar civil fraud judgment, although the lower level appellate court is sending it to the highest court in NY to decide whether any money should be "disgorged" from Trump and his family and executives, or if the injunction against his fraudulent business practices is enough.

Michael Popok, who has argued before this very same appeals court, breaks it all down for you and makes sense of it all."

Crowder: "I grew up of Food Stamps. I feel like Conservatives would have allowed me to starve to death."

Shirtless couch, is what I heard.

"My Momma was a Pillbilly, his Momma was a Pillbilly."

#8

Firearm related homicide is not defined as Domestic Terrorism... no matter your obvious obfuscations to race.

#3

Trae Crowder (The Liberal Redneck) on JD Vance (The Weird Hillbilly)

Al Franken podcast