- why did they design it?

I can give you short version of the Designer theory back story; all matter is created by a non-material mind, apparently because he likes gardens and music.

And the human form was created so he could enjoy walks and listening.

Now, in the longer version, there were other non-material minds who thought this was not a good idea (which, given the current state of things, they may have a point!) and they decided to throw a monkey wrench (sic) into the whole thing to test this theory.

I assume it was made by the God Saturn!

Actually, I've learned not to assume too much about the Universe, per my points the state of astrophysics.

The point, I think, is that it's Information that seems to suggest mind rather than nature... and DNA is formed by HIGHLY sophisticated information, what Gates called 'software', and Dawkins called, "machine code".

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Labeling is SO juvenile.

Let me ask you, when you see a new model car on the street, what is your assumption?

Do you assume that it was the result of hundred of billions of years of molecular shenanigans in a mindless process, or do you assume there was a car designer and builder?

Snoofers is right about the Universe, btw. We really haven't a clue... current debates in astrophysics include does matter really exist, does dark matter exist?

What about gravity, how does that really work?

And science has a really low bar, btw... if we find phenomena that we can attribute to an even semi-plausible source, then that assumed source... some effect that we see... it becomes a working theory.

in example:

Matter is an Illusion: Modern physics is forcing us to rethink existence | Michelle Thaller: Full Interview

from Big Think

- the billions of years is there.

Young earth creationists are a vast minority of believers today... and Joni knew exactly what she was saying when she wrote one of my fav songs.

NT Wright the other day said that there might have been an Adam Hominid and an Eve Hominid for all we know (and I say God could have used cellular soup for biology if he wanted), but that's all secondary stuff to people who look at Life, the Universe, and Everything, and see mind over matter.

- Brian Cox

"Physicist Brian Cox takes a scientific, agnostic stance, stating he does not have personal faith but rejects "atheist" labels as divisive.

He believes science does not rule out a creator but finds no evidence for one, arguing that the universe's origin is still unknown and "guessing" is pointless."

"The arrogance of modernity is the belief that contemporary, science-driven, Western, or rationalized perspectives are superior to all historical or alternative ways of life.

It represents a "triumphalism" that assumes progress has rendered past generations, traditions, and beliefs obsolete and inferior."

- the scientific method

Ibn al-Haytham (11th century) introduced systematic experimentation. Francis Bacon (16th-17th century) is widely credited with formalizing the modern empirical method, with crucial refinements from Galileo Galilei and Isaac Newton.

All "Godders". Newton wrote volumes more about the Bible than he did science, and they all did what they did to understand, "God's Creation".

She's also in the News for this story... Maxwell's coming Pardon.

- Intelligent Design nonsense.

Like I said, all you really have is ad hominem.

You nor I have any way of knowing how abiogenesis really werks, but you are invested in proofing how intelligent and important your opinions are, to the point of ridiculing all who disagree.

There are much better expert opinions than either of ours, with scientists on all sides of the issue.

There are theist Nobel Prize winners in Physics, just as there are agnostics and atheists.

But hey, none of them are as wise as you.

"Numerous Nobel Prize winners have identified as theists, with studies suggesting that between 1901 and 2000, over 65% of laureates identified as Christian, and over 20% were of the Jewish faith.

While many top scientists in history held religious beliefs, many Nobel winners in the sciences (physics, chemistry, medicine) also maintained personal faith alongside their research."

He wrote professional opinions on abiogenesis, one of science's biggest questions in his field... how some interest group used it is beside the point.

The point being that you nor I nor anyone else knows exactly how it werks, but you are comfortable ridiculing anyone who happens not to agree with Your Magnificence.

"The roughly 30-minute briefings have included a PowerPoint presentation about how congressional oversight works and best practices for handling it ...

Staff from the counsel's office have encouraged political appointees to be careful about what they put in writing and provided guidance for how to respond to congressional inquiries in a timely manner."

Said one White House official: "It's obvious to everyone that it's very likely. It was a sober-eyed conversation."

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"... be careful about what they put in writing"

This is always a good idea in any criminal enterprise.

The point being that no one knows for sure, which I understand.

You, otoh, are so sure of your belief that you ridicule people who dare to disagree... or even just not agree with your point of view.

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Let me check... nope, whataboutisms are still not arguments to the point.

- garbage

Neither are naked claims with no evidence.

Campaign Finance Reform is the answer to SO many problems in the country... no Corporations, no Foreign Governments.

"In an interview with Fox News on Monday, Trump described the ongoing US naval effort as "one of the greatest military maneuvers ever done", and claimed that Iranian officials had been "far more malleable" in recent talks than before.

Addressing concerns about American weapons stockpiles, he told Fox News: "We have more weapons and ammunition at a much higher grade than we had before.

"We have the best equipment. We have stuff all over the world. We have these bases all over the world. They're all stocked up with equipment. We can use all of that stuff, and we will, if we need it," he added.

Trump's threats against Iran echo remarks he made in April, when he warned that a "whole civilization will die" if Tehran failed to comply with his demands over the strait of Hormuz " comments that drew widespread domestic and international backlash."

;;

"Die, damn you civilization!"

- the big bag

Suicidal posting.

The idea that our reality is formed by the chance happening of billions of years of an unguided mindless process... I bet that's what you think when you see a new model car drive by; "wow! there was no mind behind that, it's a freak of nature!".

This paradox, often called the DNA-protein paradox or the "chicken-or-egg" problem of abiogenesis, is one of the biggest questions in science.

In modern life, DNA holds the blueprints, but requires protein enzymes to replicate and translate its code.

Meanwhile, those specific protein machines can only be assembled using instructions from DNA.

- Lumpers

Must be Chinese for people who are smarter than him.

- Israel

Making the perfect the enemy of the damn sight better than the other candidate... is really just self-abuse.

Some people who might be vegan also might starve to death in a Deli.

That'll show those carnivores!

- people who can't form a cogent argument

Post "LOLz!" instead.

Argument-free LOLz?

What'll they think of next?

Those 3 people have more science and math doctorates than you have toes.

NEW

Trump Ordered Republicans to Try to Win Over John Fetterman

Republicans are promising Senator John Fetterman a lot " if only he switches parties.

Fox News host Sean Hannity gave up the game to Fetterman while he interviewed the Democrat on his show in March.

"I did talk to President Trump last night, and I told him you were gonna be on the show," Hannity told Fetterman.

"And he said OK. I wanna give you a job. Your job is to tell him: He's gonna be run as a Republican, he's gonna have our full support, more money than he ever dreamed of, and he's gonna win big.'"

#84

Interesting question.

This isn't the answer, but it's interesting:

#8

Whatabouttheotherguy? is about the only argument Trumpers have these days; directly defending what DJT does being nearly impossible.

I can't even log in on another device at the moment because I forgot my password, lol.

I have about as much pull around here as Matt Drudge.

"Here is why I believe this. She is the woman who knows too much," Brown wrote on her Substack on Thursday.

"And there are indications she has the goods to spill details about Epstein's crimes and those who helped him or participated in them. This means there [are] some nervous and powerful men out there."

In the email dated Oct. 19, 2025, Maxwell references Leon Black, a Wall Street billionaire and longtime Epstein client who has been accused of sexual abuse by multiple women. He has denied any wrongdoing.

"Send Leon's emails etc stuff to Leah," Maxwell wrote, referring to her friend and lawyer Leah Saffian. "Of course it is in the papers from Congress too. One day the spigot will dry up."

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"I am shocked that some of my former Republican colleagues on the Oversight Committee are supporting pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell," former Georgia firebrand Marjorie Taylor-Greene said.

"The Epstein survivors are adamantly against her receiving a pardon as she was one of their main abusers next to Jeffrey Epstein and they say she is a serial liar."

Her article should have been titled, "Whataboutism 101, Lessons in Logical Fallacies".

It's just another Rwing Whine; "But, Mommy, Little Hasan does it, too!".

Is that supposed to make it acceptable behavior?

Claiming hypocrisy is NOT an argument, much less a news article.