Most of the "direct quotes" were plucked from pretty cordial debates and the quotes used to claim he was saying something quite different than when in the context of the debate. That's not to say I agree with all his takes, but I do think the quotes were used to paint a much darker image of him than he actually was. I don't agree with a lot of his takes, comically though the damning quotes were usually points I had less of an issue with. Fun with quotes

without mansplaining it... I wrote it in an unclear manner, so I'm not surprised it didn't make sense. I typed it in a rush.

My intent was that I am surprised that you'd be completely unfamiliar with me as I have been posting here for about 20 years. If you have been lurking for as long as you claim it seems not very plausible that I would seem to be a new to you.

Chantresse I don't give a hoot if you recognize me or not, but I've been posting her for about 20 years... seems odd that as such a long time lurker as you claim to be to sound so new.

And the committee should have been vocal about the fraud and not secretive... Just another reason they ALL need to go

I dont give a ---- about the Nick video, the fraud happened, and it wasn't stopped. Claiming its hoax is ridiculous and an issue that should not be dismissed. That is my only point chantresse.

And I've posted here forever, yet you're completely unfamiliar with me... -------- on your supposed persona

I've repeatedly said I didn't vote for trump

so your contention is that this story breaks, and the proof that it's a hoax is that the Governor who oversaw it all is bowing out of the race?

Large numbers of people already convicted of fraud, but that fraud is a hoax?

Impressive mental gymnastics

to clear out 90% of the swamp then we need to get rid of about 85% of all politicians I'd wager and not just Trump and his minions.

#5 agreed.

Release that too... let's actually drain the swamp.

I suppose Walz announcing today that he is not running for re-election somehow bolsters the accusation that this is all a hoax, say a... right wing conspiracy?

Nick or no Nick... this isn't a hoax.

The fact that the left wants to just sweep it under the rug is very telling

Given that this exact issue is what was keeping the industry from opening proper banking, and payment accounts I would assume it should open the way for CC payment.

Given the laws forced payments basically under the table, big brother must have figured out they are missing out on tax revenue here.

Should have smoked up AFTER he signed it.

At least when they're being stripped of citizenship they can be high legally while it happens

#56 that is way to rational a thought for both politics and by extension this site.

I didn't say that I care if people want to transition, so I'll answer, I don't. But I also support women who want sex segregated spaces. From there it becomes a nuanced discussion where there is no one universal answer that won't take away from either transgender women, women, or both. Nuanced discussion has died or horrible death on this site, so it is unlikely there'll be a rational discussion of the nuances and potential compromises that could be made.

Okay, another check mark on the both sides are same docket...

I thought weaponing the over broadening of a words definition was possibly a left only trait... and here comes Trump to prove me wrong.

Hilarious that people jumped on my question without stopping to realize it was a rhetorical dueling dumb gotcha questions that really don't add to any discussion...

#90 what is a woman?

"it's been years since you contributed anything meaningful to any discussion ----"

Then there is this... This didn't fly back in 2008 here.

#36 the lack of right posters isn't what makes me say that the echo chamber is in effect. I say it because other points of view were discussed many years back, but now any dissent from the "proper" point of view is shouted down as Magat, Bigot, Fascist, -ist, -ism, etc... It didn't used to be that way. Do those people exist in the world? Of course. Does looking to discuss an issue from an alternate pov mean you are one? No. Now though here, it does.

All of this said with the knowledge and agreement that this has always been a left leaning site. It's that the slope of the lean has increased and the intolerance for dissent has as well.

As a long timer at this point, I used to come here because there was a decent amount of Right and Left posters. The news stories were varied, and the comments actually debated them and weren't trolling. It made the site a good single stop news shopping experience. I could come here, see all the relevant news headlines, catch up on the comments discussion and get a good blend of what the left and right were both saying and get a full 360 view of an issue to help inform my own opinion on it.

Now though, it's a left wing echo chamber that shouts down discussion if it doesn't reinforce the echo chamber. I still come since it still has a good collection of the days headlines, but it has lost the 360 view. I supplement with other sites, and blend this in for a more far left flavor to the others to keep a balance.

that's my point Bell, California did it because of Texas, Texas did it because of... they did it because of... and on and on.

I lived in a particularly good example of it in MA. Barney Frank's district was just unrelated parts of the state that covered all the minority areas. There was no rhyme or reason other than that to it.

So exactly my point the parties have been doing this since the dawn of time and it sucks.

#3 roll that script back to include TX and it was the inverse, and roll it back further and it would flip again. It'd be great if both sides could f off with the Gerrymandering.

" you stupid little prancing ------ "

Wow, Aren't you an LGBTQ ally? I'm sure they'd love you using a slur for them as an intended insult to someone?

Is the accusation of being gay supposed to offend me? Do you view it as a bad or lesser than thing?

I guess I hit a nerve with all the whataboutism ON BOTH SIDES being bad for the country