Like the people fired for cheering on Kirk being shot, I applaud these people being fired.

#68 you still missed it.

I never said either way if I do or do not think Trump and the far right are fasicsts. I said my friend, unless you agree with her completely, will call me and everyone else a fascist. It is possible to oppose Trump in different ways or degrees than the far left wants everyone to and NOT be a fascist. But if you throw the label at every moderate... then you run into #70. Labelling everyone with a different viewpoint from you as part of the problem, just turns us off to wanting to push back against what we see as being wrong. YOU'RE the problem and you don't even know it.

Note I still refer to them as my friend, I doubt they do me at this point. Not because I have debated with them, but because I do not engaged with them anymore.

Corky, you're still basing this on "we are right" so we can have bad behavior towards others.

My friend can be right, but not label everyone every ism, ist, nazi, in the book if they don't 100% agree or are any degree of moderate or slightly right of center.

At least not if they expect to attract those same people to join them in the fight.

#58... I'm talking Joe liberal on facebook engaging with their peers.

For reference I'm referring to a long time friend I have that I have just stopped engaging with. Every one of their posts starts with at least two or three all caps MAGANAZI or NAZIFACIST riddled sentences that at this point are almost bereft of a point. If I do anything less than meet that with equal vitriol 100% in line with her point of view I am then called one too. Her posts are an attempt to persuade others to join pushing back against Trump. She is probably right about Trump being in the wrong, but it just makes me scroll past. If you think this is a unique situation, you're not listening to the middle.

from 46 to 47 wasn't even a minute, slow your roll.

I'm busy at work so this will be a 100,000ft answer.

The left would be better served by engaging in some more even keeled discussion. I know it seems contrary, but all of my leftists friends personal posts, conversations, etc, are heated. Which I get the anger, but when you engage a moderate who has slightly differing views some of which may lean right it immediately turns into a litmus test and the moderate is vilified. If the left courted moderates there could be a unifying voice pressure our leaders. Instead we have the far right with too much control, the far left with too much anger, and the middle being shouted down if any sort of nuanced discussion is attempted.

Corky can't digest that Left is in a prime position to shine a light on the Right and win people back, but instead because they feel righteous, they are going to be insufferable. Then wonder why they aren't picking up voters.

Great analogy with the domestic abuse...

The wife lashing back out, probably warranted, and a feel good reaction. But did it improve her situation? No. The husband will just do worse, or he'll have her charged and she'll have been the aggressor that time. She probably should have left, or, or, etc...

So yes, the feel good action and the improve the situation aren't going to be the same.

Neither side of the Aisle is doing anything to improve the situation, and just keep upping the intensity of the divide between the two.

In the current time the Left is on it's heals, and you all cheer for their non helpful actions, because what aboutism.

and the cycle continues

look around the Right needs to be doing a ton or introspection as well. Our political institutions are a joke right now on both sides of the aisle

Threads saying today's Left is offputtingly angry in their actions and rhetoric never cease to amuse as they just come out swinging with anger, and defend the off-putting rhetoric of Left.

Not an ounce of self reflection in the thread at all.

#22 I see legally is still adding value

Clown likes Jasmine Crockett, what a ------- surprise

Watching both sides of the aisle grasp at bits of information on this kid in desperate attempt to dunk on the other side of the aisle just spotlights everything wrong in our politics and media.

Eventually this kid is going to turn out to be a square peg in a world of round holes trying to find something to identify with and probably having no real ideology other than wanting to belong somewhere.

who was talking about the AG?

you said about Charlie Kirk: If you don't want to be "quoted out of context" don't say things that can be "quoted out of context".

And my point is that is a ridiculous statement. Some of his quotes, are him repeating a statement and then arguing against it. Like him, hate him, but to say the above about him is ridiculous. Anything can be taken out of context, context means everything.

not even getting that I quote-quoted-quote you out of context... sigh.

wow, I can't believe Donner is so against freedom of speech, to the point of threats!!!

He just said... "careful, don't say things ... will be used against you"

I can't believe it's acceptable to say that!!!

#119 , no worries

I wasn't saying he did... a few posts above there was discussion about Universities atmosphere's in general. I wasn't claiming it has anything to do with this kid.

catching up on the thread.

The first 48ish hours are going to see this story change dramatically. The only thing I'm confident pinning on this kid is that he was emotionally 'off' and down an unhinged road.

I don't think all Universities fit the atmosphere described, however, my son is a Senior at Northwestern and absolutely describes it this way. So as with most things different schools different realities.

The false binary...

I say Harris was a bad candidate. How is Trump not worse is the response.

once you accept both can be true, then maybe you can move forward.

I never mentioned ambition, I said opportunist. I said that as a counter to the racism charge.

All things potentially attributed to Trump as well. I didn't vote for Trump either.

Is where I mentioned evaluating Trump positively in the room with us Danforth? Can you point it out?

#82 Kamala wasn't racist, and wasn't forced by a racist system.

She was an opportunist, and it didn't matter who she used.

Trying examining her actions through that lens and you'll see why so many of us think she was unfit.

Release all everything they have on Epstein... it will be the real draining of the swamp.

wow, the tolerant left is sure quick to be okay with some homophobia if it's being used against the right. Amazing.

Legally, try taking your hate somewhere else loser.