Truth Hurts Lies
#80 | Posted by truthhurts

Anyone that was is a better human being than him.
#5 | POSTED BY CORKYTHEBIGOT

So not you, or anyone you know.

#3 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

No he's not.

There's a pending lawsuit on how the FAA denied 1000 or so controller applicants, jobs because of their skin color.

I wonder if (s)he is a real person or just an avatar.
#13 | POSTED BY FEDUPWITHPOLS

An alias.

So... real 'Muricans should be more homophobic and more racist, eh?
Figures.
#5 | POSTED BY CORKYDABIGOT

If thats the Lumper take on improving, you're going to lose more.

Yes. Was the pilot a straight white male, or not?
#81 | POSTED BY REDIAL

No Asian

Jimmy Carter took a lot of heat for crashing an army chopper in Iran. Cost him an election.

Jimmy Carter crashed a helicopter in Iran? Thought he was a sub guy.

I read, and quoted, your current alias' comment.

No you didn't, otherwise you would understand, unless you are confused.

And now it states that is was not on just because it was not recorded?

What is "it"?

They had a mode C transponder on. Which is part of the requirement in the link I gave you, there are regulations and they are very specific.

You asked for them, now you don't read them.

Its not surprising you didn't read them. I am happy you aren't a pilot!

So looking at the some of the ATC comms, a picture is forming....

There were two active runways 1 and 33, a little off of each other by about 40 degrees.

Looks like the PAT Helo had a squawk code so it was using Mode-C transponder (also required in 30miles of B), that should have been collected and retransmitted to aircraft via TIS-B over 978MHz.

But TCAS might not be able to use this, since so low/and freq. The PAT's Transponder was reporting < 200ft.

If true the flight was likely low on approach.

So, your current alias admits it may have not it on, because it is optional.

No it wasn't on because it wasn't recorded. Its not optional but they might have turned it off because they were flying a VIP, but then would have required a conversation with ATC before flight.

... DC is also under Special Flight Rules. ...
And that affects this current situation, how?

Be specific.

Huh?
#56 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

You've never missed something behind your A pillar on your car?

Theres a tourist helicopter crash where the helicopter missed a helo taking off, clearly behind the pillar the whole time.

Its possible flying left seat (if video is oriented correctly) the pilot never saw the jet until it was too late.

Why didn't the MILITARY helo sense the ADSB of the Jet, OR the TCAS have gone off on the Jet (again if it happens alot they might have turned it off)

Probably incompetent Asian pilots.
~ DialAgain

Well at least they are pilots, rather than Canadians.

Maybe Helo pilots should train on I-95?

#54 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

LOL Well considering they were crossing an approach I would have figured heightened awareness.

But if you fly it enough perhaps some complacency has a way of creeping in.

Why should it have been on?
#52 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Well, the Military can turn it off with a switch. But GA, and commercial can't.

Lewzer effed this up, but eggs are cheaper now.
#51 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Leave it to a Canadian to make it political.

@#38 ... Not sure how they missed a jet? ...

Helo pilot was focusing on route, and flying at what should have been less than 200ft.

Jet came at 90degrees from Helo path, quite possible the jet hidden was behind the A pillar. (ever have that happen at a crosswalk?)

What I can't figure out is why the ADSB was off. Listing to ATC there wasn't even a concern.

PAT - Priority Air Transport helicopter. Oh boy.

Congressmen, SECDEF, and Generals.

Here is the helo route, its 200ft hard limit.

Looking at foreflight the whole B airspace is shut down, only Helo's near crash site.

No way one did not see the other.

#27 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

When on final you're concentrating on the runway and the landing, you get a kind of tunnel vision.

The helo though pilot on left seat perhaps navigating the flyway on the Potomac under 200ft, not looking to the left..

I'll see if I can bring it up.

Last ADSB is report of the plane was at 375ft.

Following developments of what appears to be a collision between a CRJ arriving from Wichita and a military VIP transport helicopter just east of DCA.

Yikes, sounds like it was military.

I would think planes stay on the ground until they know more ...

Police copter in air checking Potomac. Issue is this location is on final approach.

According to FlightAware, AA5342 stopped tracking on approach over the Potomac River. At the same location, the @DCPoliceDept's helicopter stopped tracking.