#4. They are very much like a tax. They are imposed on importers but importers simply increase the price to offset the tariffs which ultimately gets paid by the consumer. Ironically, lefties claim this DOESN'T happen when corporate tax rates are increased.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger

Taxes are on profits. Profits can be reduced or eliminated by re-investment and other tax strategies.

Tariffs are on the value of the product. There is no escape here.

VERY different.

But here's undeniable proof: When taxes are lowered on corporations, why don't products get cheaper?

This was the 1983 claim.
But the courts opined they should seek justice else where ...
And Sinclair or others harmed by his death may be able to bring state tort claims against the City. So while Sinclair may achieve justice for her son, the Due Process Clause is not the way to do so.
cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov

They did ... and won.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut

So was the other one.

Same situation. Different victim. It was filed in Federal Court under section 1983. Guy got shot in the CHOP zone.

State-created danger claims are insanely difficult. And I mean insanely. They are so limited that 99% of cases where you think the state SHOULD be liable, they aren't legally liable.

Fetterman has a stroke and loses a huge portion of his rational thinking from brain damage, even according to his own staff.

Jeff Bellringer: "This is the kind of guy we need!"

You know what words we didn't see from the left when talking about CHOP /CHAZ?
Secession or insurrection. The whole thing was glorified even by the mayor herself - it has a block party atmosphere that could leave to a summer of love.

#1 | Posted by BellRinger

This is the SECOND case like this.

Would you like to know what happened to the first case where someone was shot in the CHOP zone? Appeals Court tossed it.

WHY?

The Law: To succeed on a state-created danger claim, a plaintiff must establish that (1) a state actor's affirmative actions created or exposed him to an actual, particularized danger [that he] would not otherwise have faced (2) that the injury he suffered was foreseeable, and (3) that the state actor was deliberately indifferent to the known danger.

The difference thus far is this case was filed in STATE court and the other was filed in FEDERAL COURT. Unfortunately, Washington common law mimics the Federal code and common law.

Basically it will be over in Appeals because the danger must be specific to the plaintiff, not just the public at large. And it has to be foreseeable, not just possible.

You have zero evidence of such. My question is just a question. Why would I make such an accusation about Biden?

What else do you got, Shrimptacophant?

#13 | Posted by eberly

ShrimpTacoBoazLeftHandTurdsBeverly defends the Trump trolls.

Is this another way to say ShrimpTacoBoazLeftHandTurdsBeverly believes Trump's Pedophilia is just fine?

It's just a question....I'm not going to criticize ShrimpTacoBoazLeftHandTurdsBeverly for ignoring this. I'm asking if this is the point.

See how it works? See how it comes across? If you want to know something SO basic, maybe Google it rather than ask a question that seems to make such assumptions. I come with receipts. MAGAts come with assuming questions and lies.

I'll chalk it up to a poorly worded question and post.

"You can always tell who never finished high school.
They can't tell you the difference between Socialism and Communism."
Bill Maher has a double major degree from Cornell.
Anything else you want to contribute, Shrimptacophant?

#8 | Posted by eberly

Bill Maher sold out to corporate America years ago and parrots whatever he can for the wealthy. Even he doesn't believe his -------- but he is an entertainer.

The post was about Bellringer. I even quote him. He doesn't have the excuse of being paid to entertain the idiots.

Anything else you want to contribute, ShrimpTacoBoazLeftHandTurdsBeverly?

This is how absolutely ------- stupid MAGAts are.

He has a history of espousing Communist views. Does that make him a Commie Mayor? We will have to watch and see how he acts in his role when faced with reality.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger

You can always tell who never finished high school.

They can't tell you the difference between Socialism and Communism.

And Zohran doesn't even make it to actual Socialist. At best, he gets Socialist Lite.

Make Everyone BUT America Great Again

No surprises from Eberly today.

He is taking the MAGA approach.

"I want to know. Why did Obama cause COVID? What was his goal?"
Then
"I didn't SAY Obama caused COVID. I was just asking a question!"

Seriously...he did the thing!

"Is this another way to say the Biden administration ignored it as well?" #3 | Posted by eberly
Then
"Drr...I didn't say Biden ignored this! I was just asking a question!"

"I am superior to you in every way imaginable." #8 | Posted by eberly
Apparently not. I know how to use Google. So do most 7 year olds.

Is this another way to say the Biden administration ignored it as well?
It's just a question....I'm not going to criticize Biden for ignoring this. I'm asking if this is the point.

#3 | Posted by eberly

By ignored, you mean arrested in February, 2022 after an investigation, then charged and convicted?

Eberly going full MAGAt:

"It's just a question....I'm not going to criticize Biden for ignoring this. I'm asking if this is the point."

There are no dumb questions - Only dumb people.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut

"He should be in jail, he materially supported the protestors."

Tell us how.

"Not sure, but just having popularity and a camera doesn't make you a journalist."

Unless you want to break into daycares and film children, right?

Their reach wouldnt be as far. They wouldnt be able to hold engagements or fights as long.

#27 | Posted by boaz

Again...against who?

The only time they've had to hold engagements is when the US decided to invade and nation build.

NATO would fall apart without the U.S.

#23 | Posted by boaz

Notice Boaz can't explain how they would fall apart?

NATO would basically just be the EU without the US. And the EU would be fine.

As agents were attempting to arrest him, Schlegel fired at Border Patrol agents and an Air and Marine Operations helicopter flying above, according to officials.

#2 | Posted by shrimptacodan

If he had a gun on him, why wouldn't he shoot?

With the new guidance from the White House and ICE, here are his options:

Option (1) Disarm
Result: ICE shoots him. The White House goes all over the media labeling him a terrorist. There is no investigation. There are no charges.

Option (2) Do not disarm but do not draw or fire the weapon
Result: ICE shoots him. The White House goes all over the media labeling him a terrorist. There is no investigation. There are no charges.

Option (3) Open Fire and hope to get away
Result: ICE shoots him. The White House goes all over the media labeling him a terrorist. There is no investigation. There are no charges.

Police: "Drop the weapon or we will shoot."
ICE: "Drop the weapon and we will still shoot."

" China is the only country with a comparable military but they are on the other side of the world and more intent on keep things stable to continue trading"
China seeks a global hegemony. If the US were to pull out of NATO (which would be a colossal mistake) China might feel emboldened to seize territory.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger

Yes, Jeff. Global Hegemony with all those countries they've invaded in the last 40 years...like...umm.... hmmm...

They are territories all over the WORLD China could seize. Especially in Africa. It hasn't.

It builds a hospital. Opens trade. And leaves.

China's basic diplomacy is "Keep the status quo and keep trade moving."

Defend itself against who?

Who is the threat they are talking about?

Russia that can't even take over non-NATO Ukraine?

Maybe Serbia is going to rise up with its 150 man army?

The super power Algeria?

China is the only country with a comparable military but they are on the other side of the world and more intent on keep things stable to continue trading. They won't even invade Asian or African countries anymore.

The only other threat is the US itself...which if it decides to invade, NATO is meaningless anyway.

JEFF PEDO LOVER BELLRINGER

We found ACTUAL censorship.

Where are you?

...oh wait, Trump did it so its okay.

He was unarmed at the time he was shot.

He was unarmed at the time he was shot.

He was unarmed at the time he was shot.

He was unarmed at the time he was shot.

He was unarmed at the time he was shot.

He was unarmed at the time he was shot.

He was unarmed at the time he was shot.

He was unarmed at the time he was shot.

A reminder for the DR Pedo Bootlicking MAGAts

OK Mr Unity. See those red counties on your map, the ones that comprise like 90% of the country? The ones that provide your food?
Stay Out.

#133 | Posted by john_savage1

See those small number of blue counties...

1. Where the majority of PEOPLE actualy live
2. That pay the taxes that keep rural America going because they don't pay enough themselves
3. That are home to the banks and insurance companies that keep farmers afloat
4. That are home to the logistics that get farmers their seed, equipment, fuel, fertilizer, pesticides, and actually move their products to markets
5. That are where much of the seed, equipment, fuel, fertilizer, and pesticides are researched and made

You want to pretend rural America is completely independent?
Pay for your own roads, schools, police and fire departments, hospitals, and utilities
Build your own tractors and farming equipment
Make your own seeds and pesticides
Do it all without loans or insurance
Carry it across the country and world for sale yourself

Welcome to the REAL world where farmers are completely dependent those blue counties

Should citizens simply start shooting first?

ICE seems to be telling them to do so.

Well duh! Tariffs are essentially a sales tax. An additional burden placed on manufacturers that gets passed on to the consumers.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger

STILL doesn't know the importer pays the Tariffs.

STILL.

How stupid is he?

Posted by oneironaut

I'm sorry Gavin Newsom hasn't raped children like your hero.

Who was the Pedo MAGAt on here swearing up and down this wasn't true a few days ago?

I think this is wonderful.

We are going to get rid of mandatory vaccines for polio, measles, etc.

Democrats will get the vaccines. Republicans won't.

Republicans will die and the world will become a better place.