4th link - a synopsis (not the actual paper) that has nothing to do with correlation or causation with some generalized chronic inflammatory condition. An elevated lab marker may mean a lot of things or nothing at all. They didn't even mention chronic inflammation. The 4th link has to do with COVID vaccine efficacy and IgG4.

JFC You didn't actually read any of these, did you Yav?

Yav - the first link throws and error that says 'for health professionals only'. Not sure how you followed that.

Now for the second and third link. Let me ask you. Did you actually read those papers? Or did you pull them up in some PubMed search and post them without any investigation?

If so, what from the papers did you find most telling? Thoughts, please!

Just from 10 minutes of reading, they do not support your 'well-correlated' claim. In fact the study in the third link clearly says this is a proposed hypothesis.

Jesus fkng christ people. Research is more than a Google search and posting the results.

Even if they did show correlation, correlation does not mean causation.

Here's the reason RFKjr and JPW spew accusations but never give the goods on how they arrived at them;

Because when they try to do it, they get torn an academic a----e.

Just like the hilariously inept MAHA report. An epic flop of science-illiteracy and made-up AI crap no MAGAMORON fact-checked. It was deservedly ripped to shreds within days of arrival.

For the record, three of the protective antibodies to COVID are anti-SARS-CoV-2 spike IgG (nCoV S-IgG), anti-SARS-CoV-2 spike receptor-binding domain IgG (nCoV RBD-IgG), and anti-SARS-CoV-2 neutralizing antibodies (nCoV NAbs).

Two of these are IgG. IgG is the most common major immune system subclass in the body. I'm guessing these morons misinterpreted a positive immune response for something more nefarious.

Or they're relying on sources like VAERS which is a common anti-vaxxer mining ground. It's not a data collection center and they explicitly state as such. But that never stopped the anti-vaxxers.

Or they made the error of attributing causation of a disease from an abnormal lab value. Even if certain lab markers (like IgG4) have been correlated with a disease, it is not like some light-switch that guarantees a diagnosis.

If you knew anything about medicine, you'd know that.

My guess is JPW never dug any deeper than "Yup! Sounds just like what my gut told me!".

sound sciency.

You say the spike protein from the mRNA vaccine is responsible for a dubious chronic inflammatory condition, somehow different from the spike protein on COVID. Yet you can't produce any evidence for your wild assertions other than 'look it up!'.

"Do your research!" the rallying cry of the uninformed.

extensively documented.

Yeah, where? let me guess, anecdotal evidence that you see on Facebook type of documentation? Maybe VAERS? Or actual peer-reviewed studies in respected medical journals?

You blab on about 'proof' without ever producing any. Where's your link? If it's that easy to find, why can't you produce it?

You're just like every other science-illiterate Conservadunce. You regurgitate half-baked, evidence-free accusations without even understanding how dumb it is. You don't even know the basics about mRNA. It's painfully obvious.

TrumpT are the masters of Projection. You're the uninformed fool trying to appear intelligent. Emphasis on the word 'trying'.

Sounds just like JPW. Pseudo-science garbage from uneducated -----.

#37 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Every day I think Conservatives can't get any dumber.

And every day they prove me wrong.

Please tell the class how the protein produced by mRNA from a vaccine, the same spike protein with the same transmembrane domain as COVID. In fact, the big difference between the two is that the vaccine induced spike protein does virtually nothing beyond producing a specific immune response, because it has no escape accomplices (the other components of the viral structure) to latch onto, because the cell isn't making them.

vaccines were starting to bleed into detrimental territory with effects like induction of IgG4 and even primary doses were in a breadth of adverse events that was problematic>

More evidence-free bull-sheet from our resident moron.

"Welp, doesn't affect me, I don't care.

I'm not poor, just stupid."

LFTHNDTURD

LFTHNDTURD: "Deporting legal residents to foreign concentration camps without Due Process? Totally ok!"

Also LFTHNDTURD: "Slot machines are my moral red line."

In other words, just a normal Xtian in 2025.

Meanwhile, Dumpy wasn't content with bankrupting three casinos. Now he's gotta bankrupt an entire city of them.

"You have to bring back that criminal gang member you already deported"

Aren't you one of those idiots who wave the Constitution around? You should read it sometime.

"They're rigging elections!" says the Rigger-in-Chief.

America urgently needs LFTHNDTURD and his sidekick OneNut to 'Fake News!' it away.

Actually, YOUR fate is in those hands.

My fate isn't. I would never surrender my fate to a president.

Then you must be independently wealthy, live in a bubble unaffected by climate change and buy your stuff from Mars.

'Just Roll Over'. Perfect advice from a MagaMoron. They have all the expertise.

Just saying I don't worry about the guy who occupies 1600 Penn.

And most of you don't either

You're just whiners

Nothing to see here, move on. No one cares because I don't.

Say, you must be one of those 'smart' Conservatives?

I never studied economics and even I know what a ------ trade deficit is. Dumbest President ever. Perfect for the likes of OneNut, LFTHNDTURD, BoazHole and BallWasher.

Oh please its not just Republicans its also Lumpers like you that carry on about human equity and "indigenous people" as if evolution doesn't apply whatsoever to mankind.

I'm sure whatever research you're referring to has been thoroughly garbled by your science-illiterate noggin.

Ok, so the liberal measure I just made up is now "how much wildlife dies by non-humans" as their measure on whether something is a danger to nature.

FTFY

No, my point was that birds die from a lot of things. As you recall, this whole thread was about Trump pretending to give a ---- about birds dying from windmills a decidedly non-human thing.

Straw Man Saturday is still a few days away, try to keep up.

Sure, a Billion birds? OMG This place is hilarious.

OneNut never spends a minute of investigation. He confirms everything through his Never-Wrong intestinal tract with the results being the stuff he posts on DR.

LOL Sure.

Any inconvenient fact they just 'Fake News!' it away.

This is why I generally don't debate fahugging morons.

they do kill a lot of birds and bats. the estimate is about 1M migrant birds a year and climbing.

It's estimated that 1 billion birds are killed in N. America yearly from windows.

The total population of birds in North America has decreased by 2.9 billion (29%) over the last 50 years due to climate change.

Get on the right Bandwagon.

LFTHNDTURD thinks his endless Well O' Whattaboutism is a sign of genius. In reality it's like fingernails on smart people's Intellectual Chalkboard.

Democrats run atrocious candidates like Hillary and Kamala Harris to name a couple. If the court was stacked with liberals, the left would have nothing to say about any of it.

McConnell stole two SCOTUS picks you uneducated ----. His 180 rationale from Theft #1 to Theft #2 is enshrined in Hypocritical History.

Learn some recent history instead of your usual Pro-Trump Propaganda.

SCOTUS: Just STFU and enjoy your dictatorship.