US Women have Lowest Life Expectancy in High-Income Countries

@#8 ... Healthcare systems can't prevent obesity, suicide, drug over doses, road deaths, homicides all of which the US is #1, by orders of magnitude. ...

Why not?

Healthcare systems can provide help for all the issues your current alias raises.

The real question is why the for-profit healthcare system in the US seems to be failing in providing that help/

A quite interesting article...

How does the U.S. Healthcare System Compare To Other Countries? (2024)
www.pgpf.org

... The cost and quality of the U.S. healthcare system is one of the most prominent issues facing everyday Americans. It is a top policy concern for voters, a key indicator of economic efficiency, and a significant driver of the national debt. The recent release of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's (OECD) 2024 Health Statistics " a comprehensive source of comparable statistics on healthcare systems across OECD member countries " provides policymakers and the public with some insight on how America's healthcare system compares to others.

The United States Spends More on Healthcare per Person than Other Wealthy Countries ...

U.S. healthcare spending per capita is almost twice the average of other wealthy countries ...

The United States spends more on administrative costs but less on long-term care than other wealthy countries ...

The United States has worse healthcare outcomes compared to other wealthy countries ...

[emphasis mine]

So, the "healthcare-for-profit" model sees to result in more money going to the companies that administer health care, resulting in a poorer outcome for those who receive that healthcare.

Quelle surprise.

Healthcare systems can't prevent obesity, suicide, drug over doses, ... homicides all of which the US is #1, by orders of magnitude.

Yes. It can.

It's called therapy.

United States has worse healthcare outcomes compared to other wealthy countries ...

Yea but we got freedumb!

We are Not a Democracy.. duh.

Oligarchs want poor people to buy their products, work as cheaply as possible, and die when they become expensive.

The System is working as intended, it's always been the same system, since Colonial Times.

Greedy and Ambitious men have run the show since forever in North America.

Low life expectancy is a feature of this, not a bug.

If you can't make someone else money you are a drag on everything, not worth saving when sick not worth considering when well.

These Truths are Self Evident.

Constantly comparing the entire US to smaller countries is a classic apples and oranges fallacy.

Articles like this make me wonder if the authors are deliberately trying to exclude men, possibly to help or hurt a particular political candidate.

Also, go on YouTube and search for "Most People Have Never Been Adults" for some much needed perspective. Quantity of life appears to be the new rat race. The grass always looks greener on the other side, and you realize many of the people in these (slightly) longer lived countries live very boring lives.

go on YouTube and search for

You're an idiot.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2024-08-16 11:06 PM | REPLY | FLAGGED FUNNY BY LFTHNDTURDS

Coward.

"other wealthy countries"

Possibly no longer part of that club. America is a third world country wearing a Gucci belt

America is a dying Empire trying to keep up appearances through wars and proxy wars.

Like Rome was in the last Years of it's existence as a coherent whole

The West is sinking, the East is rising. That's why China is such a BugBear.

China will prevail. They are more populous and disciplined.

They actually make Physical THINGS, they don't just play funny games with Money.

The World's workshop will prevail over the World's Fiscal Speculators.

Money by itself isn't Wealth, it's the illusion of it.

A very convincing illusion, but still one for all that.

"You're an idiot."

That means so much coming from an intellectual giant like yourself. You can't even articulate why it's such a big deal.

"China will prevail. They are more populous and disciplined."

Spoken like someone who has no real knowledge of China.

So tell me why I'm wrong, genius? Explain why?

China is authoritarian, but not disciplined. People have been leaving in droves for decades. Their economy has been slowing down, and they're about to be hit with both an ageing problem and shrinking population.

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#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-16 08:57 PM
The United States Spends More on Healthcare per Person than Other Wealthy Countries ...
U.S. healthcare spending per capita is almost twice the average of other wealthy countries ...
The United States spends more on administrative costs but less on long-term care than other wealthy countries ...

There it is - very high "administrative costs" because :

1) they are mandated by politicians in Congress / states / municipalities on healthcare providers and insurers, whose services are mandated but margins are extremely low, as "reimbursement rates" keep getting lower

2) required bureaucracy to stave off "nuisence lawsuits"

3) the legal costs of "healthcare" are extremely high in the US relative to "other wealthy countries" because the governments are dominated by lawyers

The United States has worse healthcare outcomes compared to other wealthy countries ...

So, the "healthcare-for-profit" model sees to result in more money going to the companies that administer health care, resulting in a poorer outcome for those who receive that healthcare. Quelle surprise.

No surprise. Wrong conclusions are derived by trying to apply a single-variable "combined average" apples-to-trees comparisons and then attributed to / correlated with the unrelated causation.

Not the first time the faulty premises, used by politicians and the media to feed biased/wrong conclusions to uninformed / mis-educated hoi polloi, so then later "based on polls," it led to wrong policies.

Fallacy: Cherry Picking Data | There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics (and cherry-picked data "interpretations")

The "health outcomes" (however they are defined) and longevity depend on many factors, the main of which are demographics, education, income distribution, epidemiology, geography (rural vs urban population), culture (food, eating habits / obesity / chronic diseases, drug use / overdoses / injuries / chronic diseases etc.) - i.e., when the "diversity" of the "average" US population and geography is taken into account - any of which has very little to do with the "quality of healthcare" in the US.

Besides the fact that "average" is very imperfect non-qualitative measurement, for example, women (and men) in the "blue zones" of the US are living 10 years longer, "on average," than average US woman's age, and longer than women in many "other wealthy countries" - compare longevity and health of these "wealthy" and mostly White states, with the population of "other [mostly White] wealthy states" and the picture of the "quality of healthcare" will change dramatically.

Why don't you do a study of "wealthy mostly White" states with "wealthy not mostly White states" and "not wealthy states" and see if there is a difference in longevity and quality - all of them having the same "for-profit" healthcare. Quelle surprise?

The problem of expense will still exist, because of issues not related to healthcare itself but because the US politicians at the highest levels, as in Congress, states and municipal governments, and administrative sector are mostly lawyers and "activists" (demanding more bureaucracy) and not doctors who are forced to practice "defensive medicine" and often reduced to .

There is absolutely no evidence that the "healthcare" itself in the US is inferior to any other wealthy or "free and universal healthcare" (whatever that means) country, in fact people flock to the US when they need higher quality or necessary health care that may not be available in their country at any price.

But "grass is always greener..."
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There it is - very high "administrative costs" because :

2) required bureaucracy to stave off "nuisance lawsuits"

3) the legal costs of "healthcare" are extremely high in the US relative to "other wealthy countries" because the governments are dominated by lawyers

The United States has worse healthcare outcomes compared to other wealthy countries ...

No surprise. Wrong conclusions are derived by trying to apply a single-variable "combined average" apples-to-trees comparisons and then attributed to / correlated with the unrelated causation.

Fallacy: Cherry Picking Data | There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics (and cherry-picked data "interpretations")

Besides the fact that "average" is very imperfect non-qualitative measurement, for example, women (and men) in the "blue zones" of the US are living 10 years longer, "on average," than average US woman's age or than women in many "other wealthy countries" - compare longevity and health of these "wealthy and mostly White" states, with those of "other wealthy countries" and the picture of the "quality of healthcare" will change dramatically.

There is absolutely no evidence that the "healthcare" itself in the US is inferior to any other wealthy or "free and universal healthcare" (whatever that means) countries.

But "grass is always greener..."
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