Saturday, November 09, 2024

Democrats should thank Simena and Manchin

Democrats were aghast when Sinema and Manchin held firm on the filibuster after Joe Biden became president, refusing to ditch the procedural rule to pass a voting rights bill in 2022. Ditto in September, when Vice President Kamala Harris called for scrapping the filibuster to pass abortion rights legislation.

Comments

Argh. Typo in the headline. Should be Sinema, not Simena.

#1 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-09 08:32 PM

Seamena.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2024-11-09 10:48 PM

Mensa amnesia. Forgetting one is a genius.

Sea enemas. A new form of colonics.

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-09 10:52 PM

Haha, yeah, let's all laugh at the typo and ignore the serious subject of the thread.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-10 07:31 AM

I expect the Republicans to toss out the filibuster as one of their first orders of business in the new year.

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-10 08:39 AM

On Wednesday, McConnell stood firm once again on keeping the filibuster in place even though Republicans could junk the supermajority rule with a simple majority vote.

"The filibuster will stand," McConnell told reporters.

Yes, I know what McConnell said, but McConnell is no longer in charge.

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-10 08:42 AM

IMO, the new Republican senators coming in will have more loyalty to Trump and to their own bank accounts than they do to the country and to some nostalgic notion of how the Senate should operate. Yes, I could be wrong. We'll know soon enough.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-10 08:45 AM

"I expect the Republicans to toss out the filibuster as one of their first orders of business in the new year."

If so, it'll be on their heads then, and they'll regret it when the pendulum eventually swings in the other direction. Anything that Democrats would have passed previously without the filibuster would have been moot anyway.

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-10 04:35 PM

In autocracies the pendulum doesn't swing back.

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-11 07:55 AM

I think there's still a 50/50 chance they'll fail in what they want to do. Not good odds in Russian Roulette, for us or them.

#10 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-11 08:29 AM

and they'll regret it when the pendulum eventually swings in the other direction.

Oh you poor naive fool.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-11 10:34 AM

Haha, yeah, let's all laugh at the typo and ignore the serious subject of the thread.

Laughing with you, not at you. The past week and the weeks to come if I don't laugh then I weep.
Expect diagnosis of Pseudobulbar Affect to skyrocket.

#12 | Posted by mattm at 2024-11-11 12:13 PM

Democrats should thank Simena and Manchin

Nonsense. The filibuster is not likely to hold. It is best to get your "shots" in when you can. No such thing as a fair fight.

#13 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-11-11 05:30 PM

"No such thing as a fair fight."

If you truly feel that way, why not go all in?

#14 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-11 06:58 PM

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