The vid is 8 mins, but the first 4 mins are from an Axios article covering what we already know, so you could start after that if you like. It includes Trump's post after the statement he had made, and gives context for the verses quoted above.

There's also a Transcript under, 'more'.

These are OT verses that a lot of every day Pastors know, and I noticed this morning that several of them were all like, "WTF!"... because these are pretty specifically obvious.

#1

That sounds more like a whiny opinion than an argument. Here's how to make an argument:

- vague lines as "Predictions"

Yeah... no. You are making yourself look silly with that particular tact.

There's nothing vague about these facts:

#8

Already owns the L, punk.

#11

Ah, so... Laura, what did you think about the 15 Ways Trump is the AntiChrist video or transcript in #15? Didn't those seem eerily similar to him?

They've actually gotten good reviews from people like Clowny and Yav and a few others... but then, they aren't afraid of things that may not fit their current world view.

- fits all manner of scumbags who have held political office over the years.

Now you are just lying.... which looks awfully desperate. Name one person that fits them all.

Name one person who Christians have fallen for like they have Trump as they fall away from the teachings of the Church. Name one who has already made a peace deal like the Abraham Accords, and intends to extend them to another than looks like the long predicted Covenant of Many.

We've never had as dangerous an evil person Trump before in the Oval Office. Ever.

#15

There's an answer to that:

- religious nuttery

Repeating your OPINIONS will never prove them. Just sayin'.

There are people with approximately twice your IQ that disagree with you.

It means your opinions aren't the facts you tell others that they are.

I know what I say is my opinion, you know yours are facts.

See the difference?

- But where does it say the Antichrist will inhabit the Oval Office?

See #18.... or not. No one is trying to change your opinions.

- argument from authority being your favorite logical fallacy, who cares? This means nothing.

lol... you are just using your favorite logical fallacy of attacking the source.

I'm not going to ax' you to repeat one of Einstein's theorems here in your own words... that's silly.

Giving you a short tract or vid on a point is just something you like to whine about when you have no argument.

Here, take 3 mins... 1.5 for the question, and the same for the answer. And I didn't even have to try for an hour to explain it to you:

- Jesus Butt Loving Christ

That's what Clowny and Yav call him, lmao.

#25

"Here, prove a negative for right quick!"

You funny guy.

I think it's better to counter Trumpish "christians" with their own book than to just hide while the destroy the country.

I'm fighting, you are hiding.... but then, that's OK, you don't know enough about the subject to fight them.

The posts I've made on this in the last few months around here have made them run away from me every time.... and they've also interested open-minded libs here who are either believers or agnostics.

Go atheist around on your own thread, no one cares.

for me right quick

#29

I see it werking all the time... some people who voted for Trump are wishing they hadn't because of Musk or Hespeth or other of his idiotic appointments. Some because of Tariffs and because of Herr Musk and doge. A lot who live in Dearborn.

As I mentioned early on, there are Trumpers who are 'christians' who see one of the many people online pointing out these predictions coming true; people who actually know a bit about them already... and changing their minds about him.

That's a good thing.

- No mention of the Oval Office

Name any politician in or out of office that matches ALL the dozens of descriptions, of which you know nothing, just name one.

- you can't synthesize an argument based on it and communicate that argument in your own words

I do that here all the time.

But the fact is, sometimes the poster isn't worth the effort with a complicated subject, especially when they've been whining about what other people believe here for years... and then ignoring the arguments they have been given ad infinitum.

So I give them a 3 min vid that would take be 20 mins to write... and, of course, they look like a whiny child when they complain about that.

But you haven't been around much lately (Thank you, Heyzeus!!) to pretend that your opinions are facts to anyone other than yourself.

So maybe you haven't seen the many times I've posted on this subject, or the other posters who agree with us both most of the time on politics who have no problem discussing it without all your ad hominem and who, some surprisingly, agree with the premise.

You seem to want to talk about the existence of God (which is answered in 3 mins above) rather than the thread topic, and some want to talk about "Iron Age goatherders"... many of whom, at the very least were better writers then than either of you are now.

#33

Trump is more popular in Israel than most any other politician there... he's even got his own Memorial Coin.

Rsty... I said I see it all the time; in vids and news stories; Trump as possibly the antiChrist is disturbing to a lot of Trumpers, some of whom are already shook up a bit by his recent actions.

I'VE said many times here for the last year that I don't know if he is or not, what I do know is that he he perfectly matches the dozens of descriptions of what the bible calls the Man of Sin.

And even is there is no such thing or it isn't him... fitting the description of the most vile man in the book should be enough to turn off some believers.

And it appears to be doing so in comments I see on social media.

It doesn't hurt to beat the competition at their own game... of course, it helps to know the game.

#37

Cool. Now check out the vid or transcript in #18 to find out why that is.

#39

I hope you are pretending that when someone tells you that they seem to be seeing a lot more chatter about a subject on social media, that you always ask them to back it up with the data.

I hope.

- No, that's just your canned rebuttal.

No, it's a historical fact. Any mention of anything spiritual brings out the lab rat in you.

- Its quite simple.

Yes, but then you complicated it with your usual "there's no God! goatherders myth" meme... and then through in a bit of the very first ad hominem on the thread just for good measure:

"And every generation has died off disappointed that their "predictions" weren't at all what the goat herder myths said they would be.

And LOL at you trying to be condescending. You're a marginally above average IQ who relies mostly on C&P storms and other people's words to make your "arguments."

#4 | Posted by jpw"

And then you wonder why people think you are a whiny drunk.

#44

I'm mainly referring to vids on yt.... and many of them who once touted Trump are doubting Trump.

And some of them are even rwing Pastors who fell for Trump, but are now doubting because one thing they do know about are some of these descriptions of the antiChrist that they are slowly realizing match their guy.

But people have been talking about this since 2016 and before.

SO while I really, really appreciate your concerns, I don't see any problem with fighting fire with fire.

Especially when it's werking.

No, as I said, Trump matching the descriptions has been talked about and studied since at least 2016.

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btw, was it you that brought up the Canaanites the other day?

Here's something you might be interested in:

Someone did, just asking. Pls pardon my existence.

Your eloquence in whining is beyond compare.... your arguments not so much.