DOGE Building Master Database to Surveil, Track Immigrants

Thursday, April 24, 2025

DOGE is knitting together data from the Department of Homeland Security, Social Security Administration, and IRS that could create a surveillance tool of unprecedented scope.

Posted by Corky at 08:31 AM | 16 COMMENTS | permalink

Elon Musk's DOGE has access to 19 sensitive systems at HHS. In at least one instance, it appears that access was granted without the proper security training. www.wired.com/story/doge-d ...

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-- WIRED (@wired.com) April 22, 2025 at 4:31 PM

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"The scale at which DOGE is seeking to interconnect data, including sensitive biometric data, has never been done before, raising alarms with experts who fear it may lead to disastrous privacy violations for citizens, certified foreign workers, and undocumented immigrants.

"They are trying to amass a huge amount of data," a senior DHS official tells WIRED. "It has nothing to do with finding fraud or wasteful spending ... They are already cross-referencing immigration with SSA and IRS as well as voter data."

Trumpers will be the first to volunteer their DNA! Make America China Again!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-18 10:43 PM

... DOGE is knitting together data from the Department of Homeland Security, Social Security Administration, and IRS that could create a surveillance tool of unprecedented scope. ...

Yeah,I agree about the "unprecedented scope" aspect.

But I do not think for a moment that it stops, as the title suggests, at immigrants.

Why would DOGE place a Starlink communication device in a Government office?

Why Elon Musk installed his top lieutenants at a federal agency you probably haven't heard of
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... On the rooftop patio of the General Services Administration headquarters, an agency staffer recently discovered something strange: a rectangular device attached to a wire that snaked across the roof, over the ledge and into the administrator's window one floor below.

It didn't take long for the employee -- an IT specialist -- to figure out the device was a transceiver that communicates with Elon Musk's vast and private Starlink satellite network. Concerned that the equipment violated federal laws designed to protect public data, staffers reported the discovery to superiors and the agency's internal watchdog.

The Starlink equipment raises a host of questions about what Musk and his efficiency czars are doing at GSA, an obscure agency that is playing an outsized role in the Trump administration's quest to slash costs and bring the federal government to heel. ...

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-18 10:56 PM

OK, given the quick access of DOGE usernames and passwords by Pres Putin, my first questions would be...

1) why is this Starlink device necessary?

2) who has access via this Starlink device?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-18 10:59 PM

The GSA (Government Services Agency) is where all requests for government equipment get fed to, from staplers to paper. Your desk and chair. It's not obscure, and I don't see the point of the article.

It sort of makes sense DOGE wants a terminal there. And giant posters of Elon. Hail Elon.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-18 11:16 PM

@#4 ... It's not obscure, and I don't see the point of the article. ...

imo, publicly, the GSA is obscure. And that is what DOGE seems to be relying upon.

... It sort of makes sense DOGE wants a terminal there. ...

The placing of a Starlink terminal there, while a concern for me, is not my major concern.

My major concern is -- who might be given access to our Federal data via that Starlink terminal?

We have already seen apparent intrusions by Russia via DOGE.

How has DOGE hardened it's security since then?

And, if I may dare to ask, have the members of the DOGE team (including Mr Musk) passed a real security investigation?

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-19 12:45 AM

#5 | Posted by LampLighter

My experience doing pretty serious government contracts is that you don't need a security clearance. My boss once got my a blanck master of the copy-protection template we use in death certificates when I was doing government imaging. I've seen a lot more, a lot, and I didn't have a security clearance.

I'm pretty StarLink is secure and I know Trump isn't a Russian agent. Or Musk. You can't bribe Musk. Or blackmail him.

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-19 01:06 AM

@#6 ... I'm pretty StarLink is secure ...

That's my concern.

Starlink may be secure.

But the security of a network is different than the security of the credentials to access that network.

Who has access to that secure network?

That there has been testimony to Congress of a Russian breach withing 15 minutes of a DOGE person being given access credentials, and using that DOGE person's access credentials, illustrates to me there seems to be a significant security issue within DOGE.

How has that apparent security issue been addressed and, hopefully, resolved?

I've not seen anything to that effect besides deflection.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-19 01:16 AM

So as soon as the DOGE guy logged into the US system, the Russians had his password? I'd say the US system is compromised, not StarLink. But it is possible. That's why we have the NSA for this one. Sucks to be him. Or the sys admin at the gov site. Picture what must have happened to them.

#8 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-04-19 01:23 AM

"They are already cross-referencing immigration with SSA and IRS as well as voter data."

This is the Democrat's worse fear - DOGE will prove the amount of immigrants defrauding our social services as well as illegally voting. It will be the end of the Democrat party.

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#10 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-04-20 02:44 PM

Does this include immigrants who went on to become citizens?

Might as well track all the citizens too, if it's legal to track immigrants it's got to be legal to track citizens.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-24 10:26 AM

This is the Democrat's worse fear - DOGE will prove the amount of immigrants defrauding our social services as well as illegally voting. It will be the end of the Democrat party.

#9 | Posted by ScottS

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#12 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-04-24 01:01 PM

Might as well track all the citizens too, if it's legal to track immigrants it's got to be legal to track citizens.

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