2 Minutes, 53 Seconds | Drudge Retort

Lara Trump says White House needs 'more transparency' on Epstein
www.politico.com

... Lara Trump, President Donald Trump's daughter-in-law and former co-chair of the Republican National Committee, said the White House needs to show "more transparency" in its handling of the investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. ...

My guess as to what may happen in the near future ...

The Trump DoJ will release some highly ~sanitized~ files (similar to the apparent ~sanitization~ of the video?) in hopes that the release will quell the uproar.

This is like Watergate except it is a murder that is being covered up.

And evidence related to the murder victim, evidence that would establish motive, is sitting on the FBI Director's desk.

If Republicans allow this to happen, and they are actively doing that, there won't be an America by the midterms.

PressSec: "President Trump is truly the most transparent & accessible President in American history" (April 2025)
www.whitehouse.gov

So, then, why does he seem to be hiding the Epstein files?

Where all the MAGATS at??

@#10 ... Where all the MAGATS at?? ...

My guess ...

Hoping, as Pres Trump seems to be, that this topic will disappear in the next news cycle.

This is like Watergate

Has anyone asked Rose Mary Woods?

The------------- is Calling Friends to Tell Them to STFU About Epstein

talkingpointsmemo.com

@#13 ... Calling Friends to Tell Them to STFU About Epstein ...

So, trying to extinguish the symptom, instead of trying to resolve the problem?

Beat Farmers - Happy Boy (1985)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...
genius.com

...
I was walkin' down the street on a sunny day
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
A feelin' in my bones that I'll have my way
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba

Well, I'm a happy boy, happy boy
Well, I'm a happy boy, happy boy
Oh ain't it good when things are goin' your way, hey hey?
...

Nope, nothing to see here, MAGAts.
Burp, grunt, and move along.

Waiting for Alex Acosta to explain that sweetheart deal he cut with Epstein.
The news of which Acosta failed to pass along to the man's victims.
Acosta went on to head up the Dept. of Labor ... under "former" Epstein buddy Trump
Acosta soon resigned because of heat generated by news of that sweetheart deal for Epstein.
Nope, nothing to see here.

Pam Bondi, and Donald Trump, are engaged in a cover up of Epstein.

Hard to come to a different conclusion.

Anyone taking note of the "catastrophic failures of security" that are integral to events that benefited Donald Trump?

A "perfect storm" of Secret Service agents who, en masse, forget basic security protocols in Butler?

A "perfect storm" of security protocols in a prison that allowed the death of the highest value prisoner in the US at that time, Jeffrey Epstein?

I'm thinking that one reason that TRUMP/MAGA pitched their endless succession of conspiracy theories was to distract the larger public from the actual, concrete conspiracies.

Both the Trump "assassination" and the Epstein "suicide" stink to high heaven. They have this Orange smell to them.

I have a hunch the original video, client list and other key documents will be accidentally shredded.

It was delightful watching Bill O'Lielly trying to pin the Epstein murder on Biden and get fact checked in real time.

I thought he was going to cry.

Alex Jones torches trainwreck Trump.

www.thedailybeast.com

Pam Bondi, and Donald Trump, are engaged in a cover up of Epstein.

And the GOP.

Sporkfoot took to -------- to post "The public needs to see the Epstein files" only to be dragged with a response "You just voted to block the release of them" not that it will matter to her or her idiot voters.

Alex Jones torches trainwreck Trump.
www.thedailybeast.com

#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Nevermind, Folks.

We can retire this thread.

It's all a hoax according to Donald.

Alex Jones will be on air next week claiming its a government conspiracy to frame Trump.

14 More Comments from this story up last night.... perhaps they can be added to this thread:

drudge.com

Drumpty just claimed he told Bondi she could release the "credible" files.

I can imagine her releasing redacted PDFs, but forgetting to make the redactions permanent, LOL.

Willing to bet that those missing minutes came to you courtesy of the biden administration.

Still wondering why biden&company didn't release the files during the four years they had them.....

YOU know... I bet that Trumpers finally realize after this that everything he says is a lie, a half-lie, and or a half truth..... NOT!

Willing to bet that those missing minutes came to you courtesy of the biden administration.
Still wondering why biden&company didn't release the files during the four years they had them.....
#12 | Posted by MSgt

Biden was in on it?
All the more reason for Trump to release the Epstein Files!

Looks like it was a terrible mistake to release even the video.

Criminal incompetence at its finest!

Biden was in on it?
All the more reason for Trump to release the Epstein Files!

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-16 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why didn't Biden do your team a solid and release it?

The edits occurred in May of this year so good luck trying to pin that on Biden.

The reason the videos weren't released under Biden is because the investigation into those linked to Epstein was ongoing. The investigation was closed early this month which is why Prince Andrew is now free to visit the US again without fear of arrest. www.marieclaire.com

Why didn't Biden do your team a solid and release it?

#16 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

That's how far out in la la land you live.

It's not the president's job create conspiracies or to coordinate with the DOJ or to call for the release of files in any ongoing investigation to the public.

I don't remember Biden even mentioning Epstein or any files regarding the case. It was definitely not one of his priorities.

Why didn't Biden do your team a solid and release it?
#16 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

You are asking why the President wouldn't interfere in what was an ongoing FBI investigation at the time.
That you would even feel the need to ask such a question explains a lot about the disdain that Trump supporters hold for justice.

It was definitely not one of his priorities.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-07-16 12:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because he was busy in the shower.

Two minutes and fifty-three seconds is more than an enough time for someone who knew what he was doing to strangle Epstein.

It was Trump's AG and Trump's prison at the time.

Therefore it is obvious that Biden did it.

Trump: "I will release the files!"

Also Trump: "What files?"

But, Also Trump: "Obama and Hillary wrote the Epstein files."

Yet, Also Trump: "Shut up about Epstein!"

Deplorable Trumping MAGAt: "Is it Biden's fault?"

They're just a dysfunctional bunch. All afraid of the fat orange man.

Why didn't Biden do your team a solid and release it?
#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Trump ran on a campaign promise to release it.
Why didn't Trump do your team a solid and release it?

The next time you talk about Trump not releasing it will be the first.

Therefore it is obvious that Biden did it.

#36 | POSTED BY ZED

While in the shower. Apparently.

Why didn't Biden do your team a solid and release it?

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I thought Biden had dementia and had no idea what was going on?

No wait, there is no file and that's why Biden didn't release it!

No wait, Biden FABRICATED the file to attack Trump...but didn't release it.

Sorry. What are the Trump talking points this week? It's hard to keep up.

So the world's top conspiracy lunatic wants us all to stop asking about the conspiracy he ginned up now that it's biting his bigly hind end. Got it.

Where all the MAGATS at??

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-15 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Working to pay taxes so you can continue to get welfare.

... Lara Trump, President Donald Trump's daughter-in-law and former co-chair of the Republican National Committee, said the White House needs to show "more transparency" in its handling of the investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. ...

#6 | Posted by LampLighter

Reports are Lara Trump is gonna run for a NC Senate seat, so she has to be on the good side of the MAGA wacko conspiracy theorists.

Working to pay taxes so you can continue to get welfare.
#42 | Posted by fishpaw

Your Corporate Overlords thank you for your service.
Despite record profits in 2021, many corporations are paying barely any taxes
www.americanprogress.org

Working to pay taxes so you can continue to get welfare.

#42 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

But not you?

Mom won't let you out of the basement?

Biden was in on it?
All the more reason for Trump to release the Epstein Files!
#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-16 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag:
Why didn't Biden do your team a solid and release it?
#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-07-16 11:50 AM

The Clinton dynasty would be impacted for sure, but certainly many, many, MANY donors.

The missing evidence also speaks to the trustworthiness of police and he justice system.

Those police involved are protected just like ICE - masked from scrutiny.

Impunity is necessary in a police state and Biden loves him some police, thus the current situation has been groomed for decades in the making, imo.

Trump Is NOT Happy With His Supporters

www.youtube.com

2 mins

Impunity = immunity.

Epstein may never have a had a formal list of clients.

He could have kept it in his head, I suppose.

But that such a list could be created NOW is obvious.

Release it.

I can handle it if Bill Clinton is there.

I think that about seventy-five million Americans will have anuerisms if Donald Trump is there.

Pathologists:

Among the injuries found on Epstein during the autopsy are contusions on both wrists, an abrasion on his left forearm, and deep muscle hemorrhaging in his left shoulder muscle. Photos 60 Minutes reviewed also show an injury to the back of his neck, a cut on his lip, and an injection mark in his arm, though it is unknown whether the latter injuries happened during an attempt to resuscitate Epstein at the hospital.

Dr. Baden said small burst capillaries, known as petechiae, found on Epstein's face, mouth, and eyes are often an indication of strangulation. But it was injuries to Epstein's neck that make Dr. Baden call into question the official ruling of suicide.

Autopsy photos show fractures of the left and right thyroid cartilage, which sits at the front of the neck, and the left hyoid bone, a u-shaped bone that sits under the jaw and acts as an anchor for the tongue.

"I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging," Dr. Baden tells Alfonsi on the broadcast. He added: "Going over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons over the past 40-50 years, no one had three fractures."

Trump is now insulting his own MAGA followers over Epstein.

He's making a big mistake if he thinks they don't have feelings.

Murmurings that Trump is now part of the Deep State is one expression of them.

"I can handle it if Bill Clinton is there."

Why wouldn't we be able to "handle it".

We all know he was a hound dog.

And he is retired and not running for any political office.

The only person who might be troubled by some of it would be his wife. And she has already come to terms with his infidelity.

Fact is the damage to republicans would be far greater. Obviously.

Or the files would have been released on day one as promised.

Instead as soon as someone finally got around to examining them they were most likely immediately destroyed.

-Why wouldn't we be able to "handle it".

Zed was referring to himself and his ability to handle it. Not "we"

And he's lying. He can't handle it.

If such a list was generated and there were any prominent democrats on it...he'd ---- a brick and insist it's all a fake.

www.youtube.com

the above link starts with quick explosion on live tv in Damascus.... but then goes into DJT's latest paranoid screed against his own voters.

Methinks he doth protest too much; what's in those Epstein files and hidden cam videos must be pretty bad for him if he's willing to alienate the Base over them.

If such a list was generated and there were any prominent democrats on it...he'd ---- a brick and insist it's all a fake.
#54 | Posted by eberly

We already know Bill Clinton is on there.
And Bill Gates.
I'm fine with that.
And we know it's not fake.

Let the truth come out.
Why can't Republicans agree to that?
Because Trump.

If such a list was generated and there were any prominent democrats on it...he'd ---- a brick and insist it's all a fake.
#54 | Posted by eberly

Psychic Eberly strikes again.

Go pretend to read project 2025 again, douche.

Zed was referring to himself and his ability to handle it. Not "we"
And he's lying. He can't handle it.
If such a list was generated and there were any prominent democrats on it...he'd ---- a brick and insist it's all a fake.

#54 | Posted by eberly

I think you are fantasizing to make yourself feel better about your tepid criticism of Trump and both-siderism.

What's the consequence to Trump if he's on the list and it gets out?

www.huffpost.com

Get the popcorn.

.he'd ---- a brick

#54 | Posted by eberly

A brick of what?

Much depends upon your answer.

"to make yourself feel better"

why would I need to feel better than I already do?

"Methinks he doth protest too much"

Those are precisely the words to describe all of you who are rambling on and on about how important this is to someone else but not yourselves. LOL

--------.

It's extremely important to all of you and you're extremely worried about who is on that list. You're all MASSIVELY invested into this, emotionally.

It's completely obvious.

What's the consequence to Trump if he's on the list and it gets out?

#59 | POSTED BY EBERLY

MAGA will have to change their ideas of godhood yet again.

They may be up to the task.

But the trend towards pagan will be irreversible.

You're already consoling yourselves over the possibility that Bill Gates and Bill Clinton are on the list.

None of you have a clue if they are on the list. You desperately wish you could just write the list to make yourself feel better.

I'll bet some of you have already made a list in your mind...if not on actual paper.

If MAGA really wants to "drain the swamp" and get justice for Epstein's victims, they'll demand the file gets released.

What's the consequence to Trump if he's on the list and it gets out?
#59 | Posted by eberly

Nothing, if you have any say in the matter.

worried (?)

#62 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Excited.

Nice to be fully with MAGA on something.

EVERYONE wants that list except Donald Trump.

-MAGA will have to change their ideas of godhood yet again.

There is a decade long list of sins that already exist about Trump.

Are you insane? How does this change anything?

All the other names will serve as a distraction unless you just think it's a list of one name......Donald Trump.

"You're already consoling yourselves over the possibility that Bill Gates and Bill Clinton are on the list.
None of you have a clue if they are on the list."

Eberly, I'm guessing you are new to this topic.

Both Clinton and Gates visited Lolita Island multiple times.

It's not hard to guess why.

-Excited.

That's because you've already made the list in your mind.

"There is a decade long list of sins that already exist about Trump."

Well now there's a new one.

He promised to out this information, and now he's refusing to, and you're refusing to accept it's because he's in it.

Despite knowing Trump visited Epstein Island and was close friends with Epstein for decades.

You're a ------- weirdo dude. Serious pedo vibes from you today.

-It's not hard to guess why.

It doesn't matter why. You'll never really know anyway.

Those guys can tell you whatever they think you want to hear to explain it away and 100% you'll buy it.

-you're refusing to accept

extremely desperate for my attention. nothing more.

keep spinning little fella. Jesus...we're only a couple posts away from you accusing ME of being on the list.

"It doesn't matter why. You'll never really know anyway."

You'll never know unless the files are release, which FOR SOME REASON you don't want to happen.

-MAGA will have to change their ideas of godhood yet again.

I'm not sure what that means but it's not a problem for them.

You really think MAGA folks care about this?

FBI's Epstein Redactions Explained

www.youtube.com

Loomer delivers searing warning: Epstein could 'consume' Trump presidency
www.politico.com

... Right-wing activist Laura Loomer warned that President Donald Trump's handling of the investigation into Jeffrey Epstein threatens to "consume his presidency" in an interview on Wednesday, a dramatic rebuke from a presidential confidante that illustrates the growing rupture in the MAGA coalition. ...

-You're a ------- weirdo dude.

and you're obsessed with me.

nobody here thinks I'm a weird or a pedo

asshole maybe. troll maybe

Clown,

"Trump: 'I will release the files!'
Also Trump: 'What files?'"

Maybe Epstein didn't have dirt on Trump. Maybe Trump was actually sincere...back then.

He was a candidate, not a president. He didn't have access to the full picture.

But once inside, things changed.

Now he knows who's really on those lists. Some of them aren't just American elites. We're talking powerful figures in foreign countries.

Exposing our own is one thing.
Exposing them? That's a whole different game.

Stop obsessing over Trump.

Start thinking big picture.

#78

maybe? lol!

Trumpers would have listed the Qanon Conspiracies, including PizzaGate and the Epstein Files, in their Top 5 Reasons to Vote for Orange Caesar.

"Trump: 'I will release the files!'
Also Trump: 'What files?'"

So Trump lied and is a hypocrite and a degenerate?

no shit?

"extremely desperate for my attention. nothing more."

Your first comment was calling Zed a liar with being okay if Clintok gets named, so it's kinda clear who needs attention.

Start thinking big picture.

#79 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

A world-wide pedophile organization composed of elites?

MAGA already went there.

It's just that they somehow convinced themselves he's not part of it.

#79 = "How dare you blame Trump for.... anything!".

no shit?

#81 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Not one brick.

So Trump lied and is a hypocrite and a degenerate?
no shit?
#81 | Posted by eberly

Trump fucks little girls?
So what?
#81 | Posted by Republicans

"Stop obsessing over Trump.
Start thinking big picture."

no chance with this crowd.

LOL

The "big picture" has our President covering for elite pediphloes the world over.

Can you see that big picture, Eberly?

Or is it only visible to Democrats?

"Trump fucks little girls?
So what?
#81 | Posted by Republicans"

Yes. and you're already trying to prep yourself for how you'll say "so what" if this list ever sees the light of day.

At least you're trying to go down the correct road on this.....a road where you care about the list and republicans don't.

-The "big picture" has our President covering for elite pediphloes the world over.

and who could be on that list Trump cares about?

nobody here thinks I'm a weird or a pedo
asshole maybe. troll maybe
#78 | Posted by eberly

That changed today kid.

This is a thread about Trump's former "best friend" dying under mysterious circumstances, and Trump's previous promise to his voters to release ALL the info the Gov has on it.

Now he's reneged, and is blaming his Base for calling him on it.

People like BJ don't care what really happened, because Trump. And Eb would rather talk personalities here than the subject matter.

-The "big picture" has our President covering for elite pediphloes the world over.
and who could be on that list Trump cares about?
#90 | Posted by eberly

So you do see the big picture, or nah?

Trump is protecting pedophiles by not releasing the evidence, or nah?

-And Eb would rather talk personalities here than the subject matter.

LOL

-Trump is protecting pedophiles by not releasing the evidence,

Yes....I have no trouble believing that.

JFC, you really prove what complete dumbfuq you are every damn day here, snoofy.

Now he's reneged, and is blaming his Base for calling him on it.

I completely agree with that...and so does everyone else.

which is why their attention has been diverted to me.

-Trump is protecting pedophiles by not releasing the evidence,
Yes....I have no trouble believing that.
#95 | Posted by eberly

You should have opened with that, not that Zed would lose his mind if Clinton is on the list.

All I did to you was what you did to Zed. Except I was better at it.

Now he knows who's really on those lists. Some of them aren't just American elites. We're talking powerful figures in foreign countries.

yeah? And? SO WHAT.

These people should be exposed.

So, big picture, should Trump release the list?

Or would that be too disputive, like expecting Barney Fife to enforce the law in a Small Town?

I think this is where the rubber meets the road for you and all Republicans, Eberly.

Eb,

Maybe Trump didn't lie when he was running?

Maybe he meant what he said...back then.

You know he would have learned a lot more about the situation after becoming the president....right?

Now he is thinking otherwise about releasing it for all sorts of reasons. This could be a geopolitical firestorm.

Epstein didn't just host Americans.

I'm sure there's a lot more at stake than just the possibility Trump being on it.

Alex,

"These people should be exposed."

It's not your call moron.

I've known liberals who think anyone gay should be outed. Are you one of those? I bet your are.

Alex,

I don't mean "your" like you.

I mean it's not Trump's position to out people in other countries what they did with Epstein.

Just think about the international problems that would be created.

Or just think at all...

"These people should be exposed."

It's not your call moron.

I've known liberals who think anyone gay should be outed. Are you one of those? I bet your are.
#101 | Posted by BillJohnson

^
This piece of shit human being just equated being gay with abusing children.

I mean it's not Trump's position to out people in other countries what they did with Epstein.
Just think about the international problems that would be created.
#102 | Posted by BillJohnson

Eberly, is Bill Johnson right?

Should the information remain hidden, for the same reasons Barney Fife shouldn't enforce the laws on the rich and powerful. For all the problems it would create.

I think we are close to having a breakthrough here.

Snoofy,

The word "out" doesn't just apply to gays.

You're reaching...

I'm using "out" to mean expose anyone.

"Epstein didn't just host Americans.
I'm sure there's a lot more at stake than just the possibility Trump being on it."

Yeah but nobody here gives a shit.

Americans are really obsessed with the "degenerate country club member" meme.

Every community in America has a camp of folks who believe their local upper crust are all secret members of some sex swapping degenerate behavior type club.

Every seen "Eyes Wide Shut"?

That's what people think is going on everywhere.

Elite wealthy people only, of course. It's narrowed to that group only.

What's the consequence to Trump if he's on the list and it gets out?

#59 | Posted by eberly

Who can say in this crazy world where once sinful indiscretions have been ignored by MAGA voters?

Remember the woman in 2016 who was going to testify about being raped at 13 by Trump but backed out at the last minute out of fear?

If somehow Trump's sex life becomes the story, witnesses to illegal sexual activity could be emboldened to come forward. We'll see ...

I don't mean "your" like you.
I mean it's not Trump's position to out people in other countries what they did with Epstein.
Just think about the international problems that would be created.
Or just think at all...

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-16 02:19 PM | Reply

You sold your soul BillJohnson. Had this been a liberal you would be having a fit right about now. Let's face it. You want to protect Trump at all costs. It's painfully obvious to me.

Snoofy,

What Epstein did was beyond the bounds of morality...even for liberals.

But politics doesn't run on morality. It runs on leverage, threats, and compromise.

You really think Trump should drop everything and play the morality police while he's juggling nukes, global war, and an economy on the edge?

Same as Alex...just think for a second.

I've known liberals who think anyone gay should be outed. Are you one of those? I bet your are.

#101 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-16 02:18 PM | Reply

You'd bet wrong.

And being gay isn't the same as being a pedophile, you weirdo.

You really think Trump should drop everything and play the morality police

Don't worry. He's not capable of a moral act, at least not intentionally.

Still wondering why biden&company didn't release the files during the four years they had them.....
#12 | Posted by MSgt

For you that is perfectly understandable. You are still probably wondering why ships don't sail off the edge of the earth.

Re 111

Also not the same thing as someone found liable for sexual abuse. There is reason a sex offender has to register on a list when they live in your neighborhood but no similar list for gays. (Yet).

Anything that comes out of the trump administration regarding epstein can't be trusted.

They lie about everything, and will lie even more about epstein, since trump was his party pal for 15 years and then had him killed in prison.

Democrats are so pathetic that they couldnt weaponize this before the election.

American,

"sinful indiscretions have been ignored by MAGA voters"

You can't play the "Separation of Church and State" card and then attempt to attack Christian voters for not voting their faith.

I've said before.

Politics and Religion don't mix.

Attempting to mix them, makes them both dysfunctional and neither fulfil their objective.

Atheist voters can vote how they please. Christian voters get attacked if liberals think they didn't vote their faith.

Politics is secular... Politics is not a religious system.

Don't mix them when it suits your purpose.

You really think Trump should drop everything and play the morality police while he's juggling nukes, global war, and an economy on the edge?

Same as Alex...just think for a second.

#109 | Posted by BillJohnson

"Trump's too busy with the problems he created to deal with his pedophile party pal he had murdered!"

Politics and Religion don't mix.

You bought a trump bible.

Politics and Religion don't mix.

Attempting to mix them, makes them both dysfunctional and neither fulfil their objective.
#115 | Posted by BillJohnson

Mixing religion with politics is the entire strategy for the oligarch billionaires who realized "tax breaks for the rich" wasn't going to win any elections. They needed the support of brainwashed religious morons in order to win elections, which is where the obsession with abortion came from.

You really think Trump should drop everything and play the morality police while he's juggling nukes, global war, and an economy on the edge?
Same as Alex...just think for a second.
#109 | Posted by BillJohnson

^
This is the same narrative place you guys end up when it's school shootings. It's always "too soon" to act.

By your reasoning above, so long as any of the powerful perpetrators are alive, the time is never going to be right to tell the truth.

And thus the crimes of the rich and powerful will never be punished.

And you want it to be that way.

This is why we are not the same. And, frankly, why I think you don't have any morals at all.

I've haven't seen such Deflections from Trump's two-faced lying since... well, since yesterday. Or the day before or the day before that.

Eberly sure did go grab a snack, I'm sure he'll brb to say if he agrees with BillJohnson.

let's play a game........you can insert the 2:53 back into the video.

What does it reveal? It's Epstein talking, right? What does he say?

Start thinking big picture.
#79 | Posted by BillJohnson

By protecting and running cover for pedophiles?

---- you, Bill. You're a disgusting cultist.

-If somehow Trump's sex life becomes the story,

how does that happen? By naming names? Epstein says "Yeah, Trump was there".

Or is there some sort of actual proof people committed crimes?

Is there proof? What would that proof be? Video of Trump ------- a child? Testimony of the child? testimony of a witness?

DNA?

Or is this just trying to avoid the embarrassment of simply being on the list as a guest?

-I've haven't seen such Deflections from Trump's two-faced lying since.

I don't think that's what Alex, Donner, Speak, Rsty, Snoofy, and BJ are trying to do.

Maybe you should lighten up.

-Eberly sure did go grab a snack,

5 seconds ago I was a pedo and a weirdo.

You're normalizing me again?

"If somehow Trump's sex life becomes the story"

The story is Trump's "sex life" is raping 13 year old girls.

What the ---- is the matter with you people that your call what a predator does his "sex life?"

Yes... let's let some very wealthy and powerful people avoid the embarrassment of being punished for pedophilia because it might embarrass someone else. That makes perfect sense.

Don't mix them when it suits your purpose.

#115 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Preaching to the choir again?

Tell that to MAGA Mike.

Tell that to republicans who proselytize while as a government employee. Tell that to Texans and other red state politicians who insist on shoving their religion and their faith and ONLY their faith onto impressionable school children. Tell that to all the women who are now faced with terrible healthcare options because your god does not approve.

The real reason religion becomes an issue in politics is because republicans insist on making it one.

It's not the crime, it's the coverup.

Eberly do you agree with BillJohnson, or should Trump keep his promise and release the information?

Or is this just trying to avoid the embarrassment of simply being on the list as a guest?

#124 | Posted by eberly

Thousands of people were epstein's guest somewhere at some point.

Trump was his party pal for 15 years and his wife was one of epstein's whores, and was president when epstein was killed in jail. The "trump was just one of many guests" excuse isn't going to fly except with the biggest morons.

Waiting for Maga congressmen to introduce legislation to change the age of consent, nationally, to 12 years old, to cover for Trump. They'll argue that it is biblical too I bet.

#130

It's the crime, the coverup... and it's choreography for public dissemination.

I mean it's not Trump's position to out people in other countries what they did with Epstein.
Just think about the international problems that would be created.
Or just think at all...
#102 | Posted by BillJohnson

Exposing those involved with an international child trafficking ring is not within the purview of the White House?

Is there proof? What would that proof be? Video of Trump ------- a child? Testimony of the child? testimony of a witness?

EBERLY

I'm talking about sexual assault victims and/or underage girls coming forward. It could happen if there was safety in numbers.

Ghislaine Maxwell has already said she's willing to testify.

Is anybody here against the list coming out except for Bill who is giving an excuse of a "larger issue"? Not saying he's against the list coming out....he can speak for himself.

I want the list out. If there is an opportunity to prosecute people then giddy up.

But does a list provide that opportunity?

Trump bashes foolish Republicans' for getting duped' on Epstein
thehill.com

... Trump during an Oval Office meeting with the crown prince of Bahrain repeated his claim that the documents connected to Epstein were a "hoax" started by Democrats. Epstein was arrested on sex trafficking charges and died by suicide in 2019, during Trump's first term.

"Some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net, and so they try and do the Democrats' work," Trump said.

"I call it the Epstein hoax. Takes a lot of time and effort. Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had ... they're wasting their time with a guy who obviously had some very serious problems, who died three, four years ago. I'd rather talk about the success we have with the economy," Trump added.

Prominent Republicans and Trump supporters, including Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), have in recent days called for greater transparency from the administration around files related to Epstein's case. Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), an ardent Trump supporter, called for a special counsel to review the administration's handling of the Epstein files.

Trump's backers, including some now serving in his administration, have for years espoused conspiracy theories around Epstein's death and suggested the government was covering up information that connected prominent Democrats to the convicted sex offender. ...

-The "trump was just one of many guests" excuse isn't going to fly except with the biggest morons.

You mean the majority of the US voting public when you say "biggest morons"?

-I'm talking about sexual assault victims and/or underage girls coming forward.

fair enough. Is there any hope of such victims to come forward?

Are any of them alive?

But does a list provide that opportunity?
#137 | Posted by eberly

I'd say it's a start. Even if there is no list, why did Trump's DOJ drop the investigation?

EBERLY

In a news invironment where Trump's relationship and sexual escapades with Epstein was the top story, sexual victims of Trump could come forward (he's already been convicted of rape in civil court, so not implausible), like this woman who became fearful when it looked like Trump could win the election in 4 days:

A woman who accused Donald Trump of raping her two decades ago when she was a 13-year-old aspiring teen model has again dropped a federal lawsuit over the alleged assaults.

The accuser, identified in the lawsuit by the pseudonym "Jane Doe," was expected to appear at a news conference in Los Angeles Wednesday, but that appearance was abruptly canceled.

The lawyer who organized the event, Lisa Bloom, said Trump's accuser had received threats and was too frightened to show up.

www.politico.com

You mean the majority of the US voting public when you say "biggest morons"?

#139 | POSTED BY EBERLY

If they voted for Trumpy. Yeah. That was obviously a pretty moronic thing to do.

But Trumpy did not win a majority of the popular vote, as his vote percentage was 49.97% according to the Associated Press.

In real world math that is not a "majority".

Corky!

Leave dissemination out of it.

You'll get BJ all excited. He's having enough trouble being coherent.

Eb,

"Is anybody here against the list coming out except for Bill?"

For the umpteenth time...when I post a subjective possibility or speculate on someone's motive, that doesn't mean I agree with their actions.

Unless I explicitly say, "I agree," don't assume you know where I stand.

I'm more of an observer than a participant.

Can't wait for trump to appoint matt gaetz as special counsel to do a fake investigation and blame everything on democrats.

-I'd say it's a start.

How? What's the value of sharing that list with you and me?

I see the list as a tool to get to the truth assuming there are people on it who...

A. they are scared to death they are on the list
B. they didn't engage in pedophilia and rape
C. Can help point authorities in the right direction. name names of victims, IOW cooperate and desperately want to avoid being outed as a guest

But that assumes you keep the list from the public while you're investigating this. If the list is out....then you give up hope those folks help you.

Unless I explicitly say, "I agree," don't assume you know where I stand.

I'm more of an observer than a participant.

#146 | Posted by BillJohnson

You voted for this. You participated in all of it.

"Is there any hope of such victims to come forward?"

Good question.

You have been clearly instructed to stop asking them and remind everyone that no one cares.

Focus!

How about my opinion about how the list could impact people from other countries.

One poster said Trump has a moral duty to tell the world.

Really? Is that Trump's job now. Is he the international moral watchdog?

But that assumes you keep the list from the public while you're investigating this. If the list is out....then you give up hope those folks help you.
#148 | Posted by eberly

Either they complete the investigation using the list as evidence leading to a conclusion and arrests or they release the list for the court of public opinion to deal with. Since they already gave up on the former, only the latter is left. Trump and his DOJ chose this route, now innocent people will have to suffer consequences unless they can prove their innocence.

We shouldn't bury our collective head in the sand on this. If there's evidence Bill Clinton abused children, he deserves prison. Either Biden didn't release the list to protect folks like Bill Clinton or he didn't release the list because it was part of an ongoing investigation into a wider criminal enterprise. Possibly both are true. At least Biden didn't push his DOJ to drop the investigation like Trump's DOJ did. That in and of itself is suspicious, IMO.

Speak,

"You voted for this. You participated in all of it."

Now imagine Kamala and Walz trying to handle this.

Have you noticed how she laughs right after saying something serious....like it's a shield to shut down any response?

Trump is a second term lame-duck former reality game show host. This is just the latest example of him making a mockery of the people he doesn't like or respect, i.e. voters. He's in the files, as are many others. He's dragging this out because he's bored. He could give a rat's pitoot.

I'm not sure which planet BJ lives on, but pretty sure it isn't the Third Rock from the Sun.

-Either Biden didn't release the list to protect folks like Bill Clinton or he didn't release the list because it was part of an ongoing investigation into a wider criminal enterprise. Possibly both are true.

Or maybe it's because BIDEN was on this list.

LOL....seriously, I guess anything is possible but it's a massive stretch to hope that releasing the list will motivate victims to come forward.

And to be honest, does anybody think these victims will ever see justice with Trump as POTUS?

If he can keep a witness from moving forward in a civil trial (writing a check....not going to jail) then how far do you think he'd go to keep these victims from hurting him?

Is it now or never?

Really? Is that Trump's job now. Is he the international moral watchdog?
#151 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I dunno.
It's Wednesday.
Better ask him.

Though he may have starred in the tv series....

Have you noticed how she laughs right after saying something serious....like it's a shield to shut down any response?
POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Ever notice how Trumpy lies every time he opens his mouth?

It's like his constant lies are shields that he hides behind to shut out reality.

Trump cares more about interior decorating than he does administering the federal government.

Trump is a truth-teller. That's his only problem. - BJ

Or maybe it's because BIDEN was on this list.

Now we are getting somewhere!

I heard Biden and his whole family showered together with Epstein.

LeftoverTurds has the video. Because he was there, too.

-Is he the international moral watchdog?

The US virgin islands is part of the US criminal jurisdiction.

It's about investigating crimes committed on US soil.

If this place was in Houston, would you be calling him an international moral watchdog?

#160

The White House now with the Gold Interior... looks a lot like the House of the Rising Sun in New Orleans. (at least that's what you told me!)

Hunter Biden in Epstein's files? I bet they knew the same NYC pimp's and coke dealers.

Now imagine Kamala and Walz trying to handle this.
#153 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

Well, they're not pedophiles, like Trump, so they have nothing to lose.

Meanwhile. Here you are defending Trump the pedophile.

Because republicans don't see anything wrong with raping underage girls.

Speak,

"You voted for this. You participated in all of it."

Now imagine Kamala and Walz trying to handle this.

Have you noticed how she laughs right after saying something serious....like it's a shield to shut down any response?

#153 | Posted by BillJohnson

Well unlike trump, kamala and walz didn't party with epstein for 15 years.
Unlike trump, kamala and walz didn't hire the attorney who gave esptein a sweetheart plea deal.
Unlike trump, kamala and walz didn't have epstein murdered in jail
Unlike trump, kamala and walz didn't marry one of epstein's whores

So their response would have been very different from trump's.

#165

Hunter's Laptop is the Base's favorite suspect in the Epstein murder!

Eb,

Frankly...thank God I don't have to make those decisions.

Politics is a strange world where talking out of all three sides of your mouth is just part of the job.

#164

Trump must have interest in a gold spray paint conglomerate. I bet Eric has huffed paint. That would explain a lot.

EBERLY

Biden on the list? Ha ha. He's too religious and principled.

Besides, even if he was ... reminds me of a joke:

A 90-year-old man's on top of a hooker. She says, "you got it in yet, honey?" He says, "Everything but the head."

Politics is a strange world where talking out of all three sides of your mouth is just part of the job.

#169 | Posted by BillJohnson

Trump's whole pitch was he was different from politicians. That's why he got elected remember?

#1 69!!!!!!!!!!

Your mouth has three sides? I bet you're in demand!

Politics is a strange world where talking out of all three sides of your mouth is just part of the job.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-16 03:31 PM | Reply

You talk out of your hiney. There's only one side to that.

- I bet Eric has huffed paint.

Eric and JD in the Kitchen with the lead paint cans. (Clue game)

Biden didn't release the list

I don't recall Biden campaigning on releasing the list.

Or his Attorney General claiming they had the list on their desk ready to be released.

Why don't you cry about Biden more.

-He's too religious and principled

ssshhhh!! don't tell anybody. Most folks here will hate him for that.

It's truly hilarious now that rwingers feel they have to somehow blame Biden for... everything, because they can't talk about all the positive stuff Trump... isn't doing.

#178

Like I said yesterday,

"Since Biden handed Trump the worst economy in the history of the country, yes, we are still recovering from it. We may never fully recover from what Biden did, so I would expect to see more inflation in the future. It is so sad what he did to us."

Biden will be responsible for whatever Jerome Powell does even though Trump appointed him.

The 25 Best Moments on 3rd Rock from the Sun

www.youtube.com

if that doesn't cheer you up, seek help!!

Why don't you cry about Biden more.
#176 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

He needs to be held accountable for growing old in office.

How dare he!

No worries. Our Congress is on it!

I have to run. I'm headed to the Virgin Islands for a special private party. Not supposed to tell anyone I'm coming. Some sort of "special" entertainment.....

The instant I heard Epstein was dead I thought Trump killed him.

Even a month ago that thought was rather, if not completely, fantastical.

But the longer Trump threatens, raves, and stonewalls about Epstein the more convinced now that it's true.

What's funny is, at this point, even if Trump does release the List people are going to think he's hiding names from it.

Wow... it's very forgiving of Eb to be SO concerned about innocents being caught up in the pedophile legal dragnet that we should just forget the whole thing.

I'm tearing up.... almost.

"Trump makes it personal with MAGA over Epstein

Calls for a special counsel spiked Wednesday, with sources telling Axios that it would take the launch of an independent investigation into Epstein's operation and supposed intelligence ties to satiate the base.

Raheem Kassam, The National Pulse's editor-in-chief, said: "President Trump sat for interviews during the campaign and committed to releasing more Epstein files. If he's changed his mind, he should at least be willing to explain to his voters why."

"If he maintains that he no longer wants the support of those who want more information, his terms may be acceptable to more people than he realizes."

www.axios.com

If he's changed his mind, he should at least be willing to explain to his voters why."

Why? TACO. That's why.

I have to run. I'm headed to the Virgin Islands for a special private party. Not supposed to tell anyone I'm coming. Some sort of "special" entertainment.....

#182 | Posted by eberly

Wasn't The Virgin Island the name of Epstein's Caribbean playground? :-)

Musk is certainly having a great time playing with this:

"Wow amazing that Epstein 'killed himself' and Ghislaine is in federal prison for a 'hoax."

www.youtube.com

-He's too religious and principled

ssshhhh!! don't tell anybody. Most folks here will hate him for that.

#177 | Posted by eberly

We don't hate actual religious people. We hate people who use religion for hatred and fascism.

Epstein files are so bad for Trump he's calling MAGA base 'weaklings.' Uh-oh. usatoday.com

We don't know what's in the Jeffrey Epstein files, but we now know it's so bad for President Donald Trump that he'll turn on his rabidly loyal MAGA base, mocking them as "stupid" and "weaklings," to keep it hidden.

As a longtime chronicler of Trump and his MAGA movement, allow me to say this: Wow. Whatever is in those Epstein files must be devastating for the president, because nurturing his base so he can continue separating them from their money has always been his primary objective, and labeling them foolish weaklings risks a schism.

...

Right-wing weirdo Laura Loomer is one of the MAGA activists closest to Trump, and she told Politico this July 16: "Obviously, this is not a complete hoax given the fact that Ghislaine Maxwell is currently serving 20 years in prison in Florida for her crimes and activities with Jeffrey Epstein, who we know is a convicted sexual predator. This is why I said, and I'll reiterate it again, the best thing that the president can do is appoint a special counsel to handle the Epstein files investigation."

I hate it when MAGA-mom and MAGA-dad fight. I hate it even more when I have to say this: Loomer is right.

One problem with Trump trying to brush Epstein off as a hoax is that Epstein associate Maxwell was, to quote a 2022 Justice Department press release, sentenced to "240 months in prison for her role in a scheme to sexual exploit and abuse multiple minor girls with Jeffrey Epstein over the course of a decade."

...

www.usatoday.com

"My closest friend for 10 years": Epstein discusses Trump friendship in newly released tapes (November 2024)
www.yahoo.com

... The notorious sex trafficker and financier Jeffrey Epstein once called Donald Trump his "closest friend."

That reveal came on Saturday night when journalist Michael Wolff shared tapes of an interview he held with the late criminal via The Daily Beast.

In the clips shared by Wolff, Epstein notes the way that Trump is able to charm people by telling them what they want to hear. He also accused the former president of being a "horrible human being" who had affairs with his "best friends' wives." ...

Epstein said that his "closest friend for 10 years" had a great mind for real estate, but was otherwise a complete dullard.

"With respect to real estate deals, he's brilliant," Epstein said. "Anything else but that, he knows nothing." ...