Russia and Zelensky React to Trump's New Peace Deal for Ukraine

Thursday, November 20, 2025

A new Trump-backed proposal to end the war in Ukraine would grant Russia expanded control over eastern territories in exchange for U.S. security guarantees for Ukraine and Europe.

Posted by Corky at 09:32 PM | 17 COMMENTS | permalink

A graphic reminder: Trump ended US support for Ukraine. It is now borne by the Europeans.

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-- Scott Horton (@robertscotthorton.bsky.social) Nov 19, 2025 at 1:59 PM

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The best source on this is actually Politico Playbook, but the link is paywalled.

here is the article on YT though:

www.youtube.com

about 3 min in "Trump Sucks Up to Russia Again"

Of course, there's no way Ukraine could possibly trust 'US Security Guarantees' with Vlad's Poodle in the WH.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-19 07:14 PM

exchange for U.S. security guarantees for Ukraine and Europe.

LOL. "guarantees". From the U.S.? That's funny.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-19 07:16 PM

So, Pres Trump continues in his support of Ukraine surrendering to Pres Putin?

... in exchange for U.S. security guarantees for Ukraine and Europe. ...

So... now he seems to be saying that it is OK for Ukraine to join NATO?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-19 07:22 PM

So... now he seems to be saying that it is OK for Ukraine to join NATO?

#3 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Not at all.

Trump plans to send $2000 to every Ukrainian and let them negotiate their own security arrangements.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-19 07:53 PM

@#4

This song just popped up on a playlist here as I read your comment ...

Riders on the Storm
en.wikipedia.org

... "Riders on the Storm" is a song by American rock band the Doors, released in June 1971 by Elektra Records as the second single from the band's sixth studio album, L.A. Woman. It is known for being the last song that Jim Morrison recorded prior to his sudden death in Paris on July 3, 1971. ...

The lyrics were written and brought to rehearsal by Morrison, of which a portion of it refers to hitchhiking killer Billy "Cockeyed" Cook, who was the subject of the 1953 film, The Hitch-Hiker.[9] Manzarek noted that some lines express Morrison's love to his companion Pamela Courson.[15] ...

Heidegger's influenceSpeaking with Krieger and Manzarek, the German philosopher Thomas Collmer argued that the line "Into this world we're thrown" recalls philosopher Martin Heidegger's concept of "thrownness" -- human existence as a basic state. ...

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-19 08:04 PM

Forgot to add ..

Doors - Riders on the Storm (1971)
www.youtube.com

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-19 08:09 PM

@#4 ... Trump plans to send $2000 to every Ukrainian and let them negotiate their own security arrangements. ...

Yeah, that seems to be Pres Trump's current placebo for the problems he has cuased.

Send out checks ...

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-19 09:05 PM

Witkoff's back-channel push on Ukraine alarms allies
www.politico.com

... American allies and Ukrainian officials were scrambling on Wednesday to understand the terms of a Trump administration peace proposal for Ukraine, with many worrying it meant the U.S. could cave to Russian demands in a rush to end the fighting.

As European and U.S. officials alike sought clarity, they said many aspects of the plan remained in flux, including the role of NATO and any Ukrainian territorial concessions to Russia. ...

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-20 12:13 AM

with many worrying it meant the U.S. could cave to Russian demands in a rush to end the fighting.

Lewzer gets his Peace Prize in just over 2 weeks... maybe that will calm things down.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-20 12:15 AM

Stinky the brain dead nonce is getting ready to bend over for Putin again.

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-20 11:54 AM

"Ukraine: US-Russian peace proposal is absurd' and unacceptable
Officials say proposal is aimed at stirring up division and disorientating Kyiv's allies

A new US-Russian peace proposal to end the war in Ukraine has been dismissed as "absurd" and unacceptable by officials in Kyiv amid talks between Volodymyr Zelenskyy and a high-ranking US army delegation.

They said the proposal reportedly drafted by Kirill Dmitriev, a close ally of Vladimir Putin, and Donald Trump's special envoy Steve Witkoff was a "provocation", the aim of which was to stir up division and "disorientate" Ukraine's allies, they added.

"There are currently no signs that the Kremlin is ready for serious negotiations. Putin is trying to stall for time and avoid US sanctions," said Oleksandr Merezhko, the chair of Ukraine's foreign policy parliamentary committee. He dismissed Dmitriev as a "nobody".

Ukraine's first deputy foreign minister, Sergiy Kyslytsya, called the initiative unrealistic. He suggested it was a classic Soviet-style information operation to influence opinion and sow panic."

www.theguardian.com

No Nobel for Donny.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-20 12:07 PM

No Nobel for Donny.

He's getting a FIFA. It's better than a Nobel. Obama doesn't even have one.

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-20 12:51 PM

Zelenskyy CHECKMATES Trump as AMBUSH UNCOVERED

MeidasTouch

www.youtube.com

this is actually a good story... former War Hero Kellogg who isn't a Vlad Puppet but was on the US negotiating team is leaving his position because of Trump's Dirty Tactics trying to trap Zelenskyy into a bad deal with Russia.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-20 01:42 PM

Hi Corky

I was wondering how long Gen Keith Kellogg (US Army Ret.) was going to linger with the Trumpf junta before realizing he was just a "beard."

BTW: I do not know the author who wrote about the Economist magazine cover. I used his piece to demonstrate that their editors foresee an annus horribilis in 2026 to which I agree.

#14 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-20 04:21 PM

"Trump's full 28-point Ukraine-Russia peace plan"

www.axios.com

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-20 10:07 PM

Trump's full 28-point Ukraine-Russia peace plan

Has Gaza made it to point 2 of 20 yet?

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-20 10:26 PM

Zelenskyy is in a bad place at the moment and may be tempted to take what he can get, which given the value of US Security Guarantees and Russia's 'promises' could be tragic.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-20 10:31 PM

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