Hey Bellringer - can you tell me why you keep posting that obvious lie? Is it just to troll? I mean - I hope you don't actually believe that. Do you?

I admire her even more. She had her fists up and she went towards that asshat! She's a fighter!

#316 - The truth matters. Thank you for the excellent video.

#312 - that's pretty funny! And yeah, I remember that. I was close to going. Wowsers!

Now let's talk about Muay Thai! ;-)

Yeah - and with a gay dude, no less. LMAO!

When the suggested extended mag pinched

That's the common answer for large hands - just use the extended mag. That's a crap answer IMHO.

My grouping with the Canik was far tighter than mine with the G 17, right out of the box. First try. I was impressed.
I know what you mean on the price.
It's silly, too. It's why I lean towards the Walther overall. I think it's psychological! lol

(kinda nice to know someone else on the DR has the same experience!)

#294 - Yep. I kept trying to figure out what I was doing wrong and why I hated what others were raving about. I can't believe how well the Canik and the Walther's work for me.

Proverbs 31:6 ESV "Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress;"

1 Corinthians 8:12-13 New International Version (NIV) "When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall."

I'm perfectly happy pointing out how little you know about your Bible and your god.

The Bible does recognize special restrictions for specific people, but it never turns those into universal moral laws.

Unless you're Jewish. Lots of restrictions.
Or if your indulging might cause your brother or sister in Christ to be tempted. Or are you forgetting everything Paul said?
Or if you are a cripple or diseased or debilitated - then the Bible says to give those afflicted strong drink, none of that wine shht, so they can drink and forget their pain for a while.

The video provided by IMShaking shows Pretti's gun being removed.
You hear a gunshot.
There is no discharge from the gun that is seen in the video.

In the video A_Friend has linked you see:
Pretti on the ground.
ICE agents on him.
An ICE agent (1) moves another ICE agent (2) out of the way.
ICE agent 1 shoots Pretti. You hear the gunshot and see the discharge. It is the first gunshot you hear. It's not Pretti's gun.

*some* people were assuming that if they saw a gun and heard a gunshot that it had to be the gun they saw - ignoring that there was no discharge from that weapon and that another video and angle clearly shows the first gunshot was from the ICE officer and his Glock 19.

Hope that helps.

Youtube is the only place you can get the truth!
You should see what they're hiding in Antarctica!

#281 - I understand, Alexandrite :)

@#278 - It might be that clever, but it failed when the 'defective gun' refused to fire as it was supposed to in that devious plan!

Even the 92FS?

Not me.

But I do have a difficult time with a p365 or most of the CC firearms out there because of my hand size. The best for me so far are the Walther PDP FS series and the Canik TP9SF. Also I know how popular Glock is, but I'm not a fan of the 17 or 19. My accuracy is so much better with the Walther or Canik.

New update:
DHS report now has removed "brandished" from the previous report and has said the only weapons discharge were the agents. First agent's weapon was a Glock 19. DHS is trying to say they shot him because someone yelled "gun! gun! gun!' as the weapon was being removed form Pretti's back waistband. At least that seems to be the inference. So best case according to DHS is their agents simply got way too excited and killed him accidentally. Yay?

The agent that shot him saw the weapon being taken away.

Exactly. Thanks so much for looking into this further. The evidence is crystal clear. Also thanks for saying you were wrong. It's perfectly fine to be wrong. The truth is what matters.

Have you watched the video A_Friend posted, Alexandrite?

For me it is crystal clear. The video A_Friend has posted appears to account for all gunshots that were heard and you can line up the removal of the weapon with that. The first shot you hear is before the gun is removed from Pretti. The ICE shooter's gun discharge happens first.

Also I don't care what the liars at Fox "news" are saying. They've been constantly lying. I never cite them or believe anything they post or say. Quoting DHS is more lying. New York Post is banned here for a reason.

There is no discharge from the weapon. The sound you hear is from the ICE agent firing into Pretti. It's crystal clear in the video A_Friend has posted. You can hear the sound AND see the discharge. You and IMSB are assuming because you can see the weapon and hear a gunshot that it's that weapon that fired. It did not.