Wednesday, October 30, 2024

Starting the Internet: 'We Were Just Trying to Get It to Work'

On 29 October 1969, two scientists established a connection between computers some 350 miles away and started typing a message. Halfway through, it crashed. They sat down with the BBC 55 years later.

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... At the height of the Cold War, Charley Kline and Bill Duvall were two bright-eyed engineers on the front lines of one of technology's most ambitious experiments. Kline, a 21-year-old graduate student at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), and Duvall, a 29-year-old systems programmer at Stanford Research Institute (SRI), were working on a system called Arpanet, short for the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network.

Funded by the US Department of Defense, the project aimed to create a network that could directly share data without relying on telephone lines.

Instead, this system used a method of data delivery called "packet switching" that would later form the basis for the modern internet.

It was the first test of a technology that would change almost every facet of human life. But before it could work, you had to log in. ...




#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-29 11:23 PM

Startling to see how useful the internet has become in only a few years, not that I understand much about it. It is so needed in the lives of Americans perhaps it should be made more of a priority by the government to make sure everyone has access.

#2 | Posted by Hughmass at 2024-10-31 06:29 AM

Yes, but the Internet of my youth, that free environment where you could talk to just about
anyone around the world for free (as long as you had their email or internet address) has largely
been carved up and sold to corporations and the entire landscape of the internet has been divvied up
and thrust behind 'paywalls'. I would argue that the last decade of doing so, has dramatically altered
the promise of the internet for the worse. The new internet, is not what the old internet used to be,
not by a long shot. And that is a BAD thing...

#3 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-10-31 06:37 AM

When I got on the internet, there were no ads, and there was no spam. Commercial traffic was for the most part prohibited.

Capitalism ruined the promise of the internet.

#4 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-10-31 08:03 AM

"Startling to see how useful the internet has become ... "

I warned my office years ago not to become totally reliant on the internet. It fell on deaf ears.

The internet was way too fun. Way too easy. The dangers of the internet didn't become clear until all the hacking and social engineering and random all became prevalent.

With the advent of powerful AI manipulating our society and our very consciousness to a degree and an end that we cannot see my advice from ages ago has become prescient.

The Singularity cannot be stopped. In fact, it may already be here. I now believe will not even know when we have crossed the event horizon.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-31 11:12 AM

Re 5

Random = ransomware

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-31 11:12 AM

#5 you were quite the visionary... Care to expound on what you offered your company should have done instead of utilize the internet?

#7 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-31 12:06 PM

Care to expound on what you offered your company should have done instead of utilize the internet?

#7 | POSTED BY KWRX25

It's probably way above your ability to comprehend being a child of the internet age. But there was a time when we got our jobs done without the aid of the internet at all. Because it did not exist.

It was called a telephone. And NOAA Weather Radio.

Back in those days the weather service used private phone lines inter connected to each office so they essentially had their own private internet. When they allowed connections to the outside world is when the problems began.

And it wasn't about completely eliminating the internet. It was about not becoming completely reliant on it. We needed to keep alternative means available of getting data to the public such as radio sat phones and short wave radios. It was a hard fight because as I said. The internet was too easy and too much fun.

We made it too easy for foreigners scammers and even terrorists in the beginning to steal our personal data. Then the fight became a struggle to make them spend money on internet security.

And now it's a struggle to convince my fellow humans of the existential dangers of AI.

And so it goes ...

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-31 12:22 PM

I'm older than you think, and worked in the weather industry... So I know exactly what you're describing.

#9 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-31 12:47 PM

... So I know exactly what you're describing.

#9 | POSTED BY KWRX25

Interesting. I thought I detected some meteorology bones in you.

Then you can still remember the Before Times!

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-31 12:54 PM

Bachelor's of Science Meteorology UMass Lowell. Currently work as a Cloud Architect with a specialty in AWS.

So I see both sides of what you're describing

#11 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-31 01:31 PM

#11 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-31 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Most excellent

#12 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-31 01:37 PM

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