Wednesday, November 13, 2024

2024's Other Big Loser -- Mainstream Media

Will Bunch: As an electorate besieged by disinformation turned to Trump, trust in traditional media has imploded. What comes next?

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The things that pundits have been talking about since Tuesday--an economy that hasn't worked for the working class since the time of Ronald Reagan, anxieties among white voters about a potential end to white privilege and the patriarchy, and a Democratic Party that's lost touch with the great American middle--all factored into this election. But nothing mattered more than this: Donald Trump was returned to power by the most badly informed electorate in modern American history.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-11 10:21 AM

Jon Stewart On What Went Wrong For Democrats

#2 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-12 08:55 AM

"by the campaign's waning days in Latrobe last month, every voter now blurted out the same thing: They are getting their information from X, where its pro-Trump owner billionaire Musk made false or misleading claims that received an estimated two billion views."

"It's no wonder, then, that voters seemed to vote against their own self-interest on Tuesday. In a must-read analysis for Salon, the Philadelphia-based journalist Amanda Marcotte broke down the red states that voted heavily for Trump on the same day the public approved ballot measures that enshrined abortion rights or raised the minimum wage or made it easier for unions to organize " the opposite of Trump's stances or the Project 2025 blueprint he's expected to mostly follow. That dovetails with the survey in which voters " when blindly given a choice between Trump's policy agenda and Harris' proposals went strongly for the ideas of the Democrat who would lose."

#3 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2024-11-12 11:02 AM

This is 100% self inflicted.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-12 11:07 AM

This was 100% planned destruction of the verity of the media by rwing fanatics, beginning with Rush Limbaugh and Rupert Murdock.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:13 AM

Another poster blaming X and Musk. You know how you punish him? Delete your accounts. I'm shocked the Retort still allows X to be used on this site 24/7 for a news source and fashion advice.

#6 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-11-12 11:19 AM

Credibility is earned, Corky. These people have largely eschewed traditional journalistic practices and have been engaging in activist "journalism" for decades. The results are very predictable.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-12 11:56 AM

Yawn.... Nothing New Here.

Trump isn't a New Thing, just a New Bottle for Old Wine.

The Media creates the Zeitgeist.

#8 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-11-12 07:08 PM

James Carville breaks it down for democrats

www.youtube.com

#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-13 10:57 AM

This was 100% planned destruction of the verity of the media by rwing fanatics, beginning with Rush Limbaugh and Rupert Murdock.

#5 | Posted by Cork

AAAAAAAAAH HA HA HA HA

we can always count on a big laugh from you....

but this one may be the biggest guffaw yet....

#10 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-13 11:03 AM

the democrat butt kissing media has been killing itself off for a long time..

--here is the exact moment the corpse was declared DEAD DEAD DEAD !!!

****June 26, 2024......"the potus is sharp as a tack."

Joe Biden is at his best and -- if you don't believe that"....AM joe

****june 27, 2024...presidential debate.

****June 28, 2024.....the president has to go....

#11 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-13 11:11 AM

joy reid - 54.6

ari melber - 49/6

chris hayes -47.2

alex wagner - 53.6

am joe - 39.6

stephanie ruhle - 67 %...interview with harris no doubt cause of this massive drop...

andrea mitchell -39.7

#12 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-13 11:18 AM

Lawerence O'Donnell isn't on the list. How is he faring? After Trump was elected in 2016, he was the only one I could stand watching on poliitics for a very long time.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-13 11:20 AM

I was just checking.....neither was Maddow...

#14 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-13 11:23 AM

... What comes next? ...

Pres-elect Trump kicks valid news reporting out of the Briefing Room in favor of allowing more MAGA-propaganda-based media into the room.

Trump expected to shake up White House briefing room
www.axios.com

... A new Trump administration is expected to challenge traditions in the famous James Brady Press Briefing Room, sources told Axios.

Why it matters: Confidants of President-elect Trump are considering changes that would give newer, MAGA-aligned voices access to daily press briefings. ...


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-13 11:34 AM

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

I'm missing something somewhere......"trending politics"....and I'm out of time

I see nothing of O'donnel and maddow and that doesn't make sense...unless they didn't drop......

and then it talks about CNN...

..2016 election coverage 13.3 million viewers

2024 coverage 5.1 and then talks about salaries....

--maybe after lunch

#16 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-13 11:52 AM

Maddow is only on one night a week, so that's why she might not be on the list. I don't under about O'Donnell though.

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-13 11:57 AM

As far as I know, Maddow is only on Monday nights, and O'Donnell is on M-Th.

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-13 12:02 PM

The owners of "major media" are complicit in Project 2025, if not actively involved. Something about Media companies with huge government contracts that invites conflict of interest concerns.

#19 | Posted by morris at 2024-11-13 02:31 PM

Just look to Putin's empire to understand what is coming next. Independent media will be strangled, legally, and then all that will be left will be the propaganda outlets, in the US Rupert Murdoch's brainwashers will be the only voice around. And simple minded Americans have shown how vulnerable they are, we are, to night and day propaganda.

#20 | Posted by Hughmass at 2024-11-14 08:47 AM

Cable outlets (CNN, MSNBC, FOX) should only barely even be counted as news media. They are all simply mouth pieces for their target audiences. ..More interested in their corporate profits than actual news.

While network news is probably more straight forward with actual news, they have similar problems in trying to chase profits. News was never particularly profitable for the networks, but there was a time when they seemed to understand the importance of reporting it.

Print news, at least respectable print news, has mostly put themselves behind pay walls (once again in the interest of chasing profits). Leaving themselves only available to those who can afford to view the information.

As corporate shills, most all of these sources have spent significant effort making certain we only hear what they want us to hear. And 'sanewashing' problematic topics and candidates.

For the reasons above, as huge vacuum has been left where factual and reliable information should reside. That vacuum is being filled by social media and questionable podcasts, who also tend to cater to whatever their producers want to convey.

That's a simple explanation of what's happened. The problem and any solutions are actually far more complicated. ..practically impossible with so many right-wingers advocating for their rights to lie (their version of freedom of speech).

The world is left with a giant hole where reliable information should exist. And the US is left with millions of willfully uninformed voters, who have neither the time or the inclination to seek out facts.

Just my take.

#21 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-11-14 11:58 AM

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