Monday, December 30, 2024

Maddow - I thought JD Vance would frighten more people

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said one of the things she got wrong in 2024 was thinking Americans would be more "unnerved" by Republican Vice President-elect JD Vance. "I thought people would be more unnerved by JD Vance," Maddow told news site, Semafor, which rounded up dozens of retrospectives from media figures across the political spectrum, adding, "Less the cat lady thing and more the Americans [are] going to have to get over dictatorphobia' Mencius Moldbug' thing," referring to the pseudonym for blogger Curtis Yarvin, whom Vance has followed for years. Donald Trump's selection of Vance as his running mate was greeted with scorn in the progressive media, and he was derided in the press as a drag on the ticket. However, Vance's skillful showings in combative interviews soon earned him a reputation as one of Trump's best surrogates, and he was also widely considered the winner of the only vice-presidential debate with Democratic counterpart Tim Walz.

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Shady JD's Trump Conversion... from "Hitler" to "My Lord!"... alone should have unnerved most Americans. His Mentor being P. Theil should also have been enough.

All the rest was him learning how to be a Show Man Carnival Barker/Con-Artist.

If MAGA ever does actually figure out that they are now paying for the Oligarchs tax cuts, we could have a nice old fashioned French Revolution against the Aristocracy Corporations.

Who love Trump as much as he loves them... not at all, but they are useful to each other; one providing the money to elect politicians that will vote however these extreme rwing Nazi-loving billionaires want, the other providing the Entertainment... er, I mean the votes.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-30 06:23 PM

I got a chance to watch the film Hillbilly Elegy made from a book written by JD Vance about his life.

It was produced and directed by Ron Howard 4 years ago.

After seeing the movie where I didn't know much about him before. After seeing it I can see why Trump chose him.

Here's one interesting part in the movie. Ron Howard made the movie 4 years ago long before Vance was considered for the VP position.

The movie covers his childhood about as much as his adult life family and professional struggles coming from a Kentucky family being the first family member to go to college and Harvard at that.

One scene was him as a kid telling people to be quiet because he wanted to listen to Al Gore speak on TV.

I wonder how Howard feels that 4 years ago he had Vance watching Gore on TV and Vance ended up being the VP himself?

#2 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-12-30 07:55 PM

A lot of your regular degular Merkins don't know who Peter Theil is, or any of the other ghouls and goons pulling strings. They do know Leon, though

#3 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-12-30 08:03 PM

They trust Trump. He would never ever sell America out to billionaires, right?

Right??

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-30 10:07 PM

Corky,

You know... there's something ironic about people in this world.

So many are obsessed with money just like the ones who live and breathe for it investing and growing rich.

Next time you're at a liberal think tank get together insulting half the country, take a moment.

Listen for the word "money."

That's the irony.

The love of money is everywhere whether or not you have much of it.

#5 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-12-30 11:18 PM

You know... there's something ironic about people in this world.

So many are obsessed with money just like the ones who live and breathe for it investing and growing rich.

Next time you're at a liberal think tank get together insulting half the country, take a moment.

Listen for the word "money."

That's the irony.

The love of money is everywhere whether or not you have much of it.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-12-30 11:18 PM | Reply

You know if we liberals didn't exist you would be suffering from severe bouts of constipation the likes of which even Taco Bell couldn't fix. Lordy have mercy.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-30 11:39 PM

#5

No BJ, everyone doesn't do it. Not everyone loves money over everything else.

J. Carter didn't, D. Trump does. This is a fact of life.

Also, money is not the root of all evil, the love of money is.

In the bible there are multiple descriptions of the Man of Sin, the Antichrist, some from about 2700 BCE, others from about 2000 BCE.

All of them describe the most evil person imaginable in great detail, and they all fit only one person, and only one geopolitical scenario.

If these writings were from Nostradamus or even Edgar Casey, people would be going apeshot about them right now.

Many Christians in fact ignore them, because they don't fit their current political narrative... and they do so at their own peril.

antichrist45.com

Most are actually afraid to even read them.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-31 12:01 AM

Corky,

"Most are actually afraid to even read them."

You didn't really read my post.

#8 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-12-31 05:58 AM

"Fear is the mind-killer."

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-31 10:40 AM

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

#10 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-31 10:43 AM

My view of Rachel Maddow and Lumpers on the DR.

Curtis Yarvin's Parable of of the Motorcycle Helmet:

Let's say you see a motorcycle driver who's crashed on the side of the road. You immediately rush to help. You take off his helmet to help him breathe"and this is a big mistake. You've forgotten your first aid class where they told you you very much mustn't do this as it can hurt their spine. The man you were trying to rescue is now paralyzed from the neck down for the rest of his life.

Horrible tragedy, anyone would agree, but you are morally blameless. After all, you were just trying to help and only innocently caused the carnage.

Yes. But what if we discovered there was someone who drove around looking for crash sites, and whenever he saw a crashed motorcyclist, took off their helmet, paralyzed them, and then said "Oops!"

We would not consider that person blameless. We would be forced to conclude that far from being a misguided, but well-intentioned good samaritan, they are actually a psycho who gets off on hurting motorcycle crash victims.

Same with the Lumpers. Take any issue. The poverty trap effects of welfare have been beyond dispute for decades for any reasonable observer. The black-lives-destroying effects of under-policing have been beyond dispute for decades. Etc etc etc etc. And yet they keep pulling off the motorcycle helmet at every opportunity, and then going "Oh no! Who could have foreseen this?"

At some point you have to be forced to conclude that they're not well-intentioned but misguided. That there's something much darker going on.

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-31 11:34 AM

"Right-Wing Blogger Curtis Yarvin Is Wrong. Democracy Is Good.

Reactionary pundit Curtis Yarvin ("Mencius Moldbug") has attracted the support of Peter Thiel and other right-wing figures for his supposedly brilliant critique of democracy.

But his arguments are paper-thin " everyone should have a say in shaping our society.

However precisely you classify his ideology, Curtis Yarvin is bad news. He's a racialist crackpot openly contemptuous of democracy, and it's disturbing to see a billionaire, two politicians, and a prominent cable news host nodding along to Yarvin's nonsense."

more

jacobin.com

Are all Chinese this easy?

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-31 11:43 AM

Oneironaut continues to lie about being an open borders liberal.

I don't think he's Chinese either...since he's lies almost as much as bullbringer.

#13 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-31 11:45 AM

The Vice President is such a ceremonial figure, I doubt anyone has ever decided which president they're voting for based on them.

You were either voting for Trump or you weren't.

Vance could have been any numerous other people and the elections result would have been the same.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-31 12:31 PM

Oneironaut continues to lie

He's following in the footsteps of his idol, Trump.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-31 12:32 PM

#11

You're a ------- retarded idiot, you fake ----- bitch.

#16 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-12-31 01:49 PM

... MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said one of the things she got wrong ...

Wait, what?

So she admits she got something wrong in her commentary?

Kudos to her for saying so.

Now, how many times have the hosts on, say, OAN or Fox News, made such an admission?


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-31 10:10 PM

Lamp,

"Now, how many times have the hosts on, say, OAN or Fox News, made such an admission?"

Or the regulars on this site?

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-01-01 08:54 AM

Or the regulars on this site?

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson

If I were less right about you people this would be a much better world.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-01 09:30 AM

... MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said one of the things she got wrong ...
Wait, what?
So she admits she got something wrong in her commentary?
Kudos to her for saying so.
Now, how many times have the hosts on, say, OAN or Fox News, made such an admission?
#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-31 10:10 PM

Maddow's "admission" is merely castigating the viewers for not being afraid enough, dude.

I find that extremely similar to Fox messaging.

Her detachment from the real issues of economic populism is precisely why MSM are garbage.

She ran cover for Biden all throughout his obvious, embarrassing mental decline.

I really appreciate her coverage of Russian interests corroborating with Trump, but she has no actual comprehension of real world issues, imo.

#20 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-02 03:18 PM

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