Tuesday, February 11, 2025

Government stats about the economy were wrong

Before the presidential election, many Democrats were puzzled by the seeming disconnect between "economic reality" as reflected in various government statistics and the public's perceptions of the economy on the ground. What they rarely considered was whether something else might be responsible for the disconnect - for instance, whether government statistics were fundamentally flawed.

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Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

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Take all of these statistical discrepancies together. What we have here is a collection of economic indicators that all point in the same misleading direction. They all shroud the reality faced by middle- and lower-income households. The problem isn't that some Americans didn't come out ahead after four years of Bidenomics. Some did. It's that, for the most part, those living in more modest circumstances have endured at least 20 years of setbacks, and the last four years did not turn things around enough for the lower 60 percent of American income earners.

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This should not be a partisan issue - policymakers in both parties would benefit from gleaning a more accurate sense of what's happening at the ground level of the American economy. In reality, both Democrats and Republicans were vulnerable to being snowed in the 2024 cycle - it just happened that the dissatisfaction during this particular cycle undermined the incumbent party.

#1 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-02-11 06:39 PM

Ho, hum, nobody cares, I guess, since it's hard to spin this as a partisan issue.

#2 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-02-12 07:05 AM

Well it's from Politico, so the page on shoot the messenger is gone from the playbook, so the only thing left is RPO-bury head in the sand.

#3 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-02-12 07:50 AM

The crickets on this is telling.

#4 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-02-13 11:23 AM

The crickets on this is telling.

#4 | Posted by kwrx25

Odd. Right after Trump was elected and before he was even sworn in, Republicans voters started saying the Economy was great all of the sudden.

#5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-02-13 11:53 AM

"the last four years did not turn things around enough for the lower 60 percent of American income earners."

So things got better but not by enough?

Sounds better than under any Republican admin since before 1980.

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-02-13 11:55 AM

#6... so tripling down on what the article points out was a big weakness for the Dems heading into the election. Fascinating.

#7 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-02-14 09:52 AM

The crickets on this is telling.

#4 | Posted by kwrx25

You do realize that in the Trump economy eggs are being rationed?

Do you hear the crickets now?

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-14 09:57 AM

The crickets on this is telling.

#4 | Posted by kwrx25

When you people post things like this it's a sure sign that things are getting worse.

Why not just be honest about it?

Things are getting worse.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-14 09:58 AM

via GIPHY

#10 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-02-14 10:47 AM

#10 | Posted by fortfisher

I'm sure that you know that Donald has stopped research on cancer treatments?

How many in your family or circle of friends have, or had, or died from cancer?

I really don't know if the end is near.

But I know that it's much closer than your stupid ass wants to imagine.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-14 11:12 AM

You probably already aborted the discoverer of a cure.

#12 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-02-14 11:18 AM

The-------------'s unemployment rate was probably closer to 30% instead of the 15% that was reported.

#13 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-14 11:21 AM

#12 - that was a pityful attempt. Comparing reality and direct impact to that? No wonder all you can do is post cartoons.

#14 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-14 11:21 AM

You probably already aborted the discoverer of a cure.

#12 | Posted by fortfisher

Who, if alive, wouldn't be working right now.

I don't think that you're naturally stupid.

I think that you took classes and practiced.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-14 11:27 AM


So things got better but not by enough?
Sounds better than under any Republican admin since before 1980.

My overall take, is things are getting worse and worse since COVID money has been "flushed". The average American is getting dragged.

The reason for asset rise is inflation, not economic activity. It appears, in my tea leaves, this degradation will continue.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-14 11:52 AM

Is any of this actually surprising to anyone here? We're usually more informed than the average voter so it shouldn't be shocking that the usual stats largely lack nuance. Why? Because the citizenry isn't interested in long, detailed analyses with nuance and complex analysis to draw more realistic conclusions. They want bumper sticker level, spoon fed tidbits.

Hell, most can't even be bothered to read far enough into most "news" articles to find the actual information that is accurate, so they only read the first two paragraphs and walk away with the distorted take away the "news" outlets want them to think.

As evidence of this is the predictable flip flop of how people view the numbers and conclusions depending on who is POTUS and what party they vote for.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2025-02-14 12:03 PM

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