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Saturday, November 30, 2024

The 2024 Atlantic hurricane season is coming to an end and it has been an active one overall.

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Yup.

And this is with a slow start ...

Unusually mild Atlantic hurricane season likely to ramp up (August 2024)
www.axios.com

... 2024 was forecast to be one of the busiest Atlantic hurricane seasons on record. Yet Atlantic storm activity is in a near-historic pause.

Why it matters: The reduced activity highlights the challenge of long-term forecasting, even as short-term forecasts indicate things will soon kick back up.

Between the lines: The causes of the pause come down to a few big factors. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-29 11:47 PM | Reply

And, for the record, here is the pre-season prediction I saved...

NOAA forecasts extraordinarily busy Atlantic hurricane season (May 2024)
www.axios.com

... By the numbers: The NOAA is forecasting the season will bring 85% odds of an above normal season, with 17"25 named storms of tropical storm intensity or greater, eight to 13 of which will become hurricanes, and four to seven major hurricanes of Category 3 or greater. ...

So... how did that forecast do?

There's this...

2024 Atlantic hurricane season
en.wikipedia.org

... Seasonal statistics
Total depressions 18
Total storms 18
Hurricanes 11
Major hurricanes (Cat. 3+) 5
...

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-29 11:52 PM | Reply

NOAA had a good final year.

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-29 11:56 PM | Reply

Some great guitar playing on this one...

Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown - We're Outta Here (1992)
www.youtube.com


No lyrics excerpt here. This one is solely about the music.


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-30 01:17 AM | Reply

NOAA had a good final year.

#3 | POSTED BY REDIAL

As long as the government can manage to pass a budget NOAA always has a good year. It was a very interesting agency to work for.

The earth on the other doesn't always have a good year.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-11-30 11:54 AM | Reply

NOAA had a good final year.

#3 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Are you thinking that Trumpers are gonna end it?

NOAA was authorized by Congress and only Congress can end NOAA.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-11-30 11:57 AM | Reply

Are you thinking that Trumpers are gonna end it?

I think NOAA and NASA are going to be handed over to SpaceX.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-30 12:06 PM | Reply

I think NOAA and NASA are going to be handed over to SpaceX.

#7 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Interesting. I had heard that project 2025 wanted to gut them.

"Project 2025 does not call for the complete dismantling of the NOAA, it intends to undermine the agency's independence from the executive branch and eliminate many of its internal departments."

But it makes sense they will try something like that now that the richest man in the world has the ear of the President.

I remember under Reagan the push to privatize and outsource government. I feel this will be way worse than that.

But fortunately it's still up to Congress. And the American people. That begs the question are they gonna sell them? It would be a terrible mistake to sell NOAA. Not so sure about NASA. (j/k NASA!)

But, regardless, looks like we are about to see.

"Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else"

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-11-30 03:20 PM | Reply

There's actually not higher wind speeds in the storms because anyone who has researched hurricanes knows wind speeds are tied to central pressure readings and they've significantly increased the wind speeds for the pressure ratings.

Storms 30 or 40 years ago would have the same central pressure but lower reported sustained winds. They're now reporting wind speeds 10 to 20 mph higher than ever for the same central pressure readings. It will fool people who don't know hurricane history but not people who have tracked the storms for decades

#9 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-12-01 11:10 AM | Reply

"There's actually not higher wind speeds in the storms because anyone who has researched hurricanes knows wind speeds are tied to central pressure readings and they've significantly increased the wind speeds for the pressure ratings."

Yer an idiot. I will need a link for that lie.

Yes the higher wind speeds are tied to lower pressures. And pressure can be used to determine wind speeds. And if the pressure ratings are adjusted to reflect lower central pressures, the corresponding wind speeds associated with those categories will also be significantly higher ... signifying a more intense storm.

So in fact hurricanes are generally getting stronger, with studies showing a significant increase in tropical cyclone intensity over the past few decades, largely attributed to warmer oceans ... we are not simply measuring them differently, but the storms themselves are becoming more powerful.

But ... No worries Bull. I hear Trumpy gonna sell/give noaa to Elmo.

So if you can't afford the premium subscription you won't have worry about them hurricanes anymore.

You will never see em coming. That's one way to reduce the surplus populations.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-01 11:33 AM | Reply

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