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Saturday, March 22, 2025

Dark Enlightenment Rising: The Billionaire Experiment to Kill Democracy

Trump, Musk, and their tech-bro overlords are engineering America's authoritarian future...

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The future of American democracy isn't being dismantled by accident; it's being systematically replaced to prepare the way for something entirely new.

A radical ideology known as the Dark Enlightenment is fueling a billionaire-led movement to gut our government, erase democratic norms, and install a technocratic elite in their place.

Trump and Musk aren't just tearing down institutions"they're laying the groundwork for an experimental new kind of authoritarian rule.

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"They're all wrong.

The simple answer is that these people intend to replace the 240+ year "American Experiment" with a brand new governance "experiment" of their own. One that was largely developed in computer rooms around San Francisco.

There's an actual ideology behind all this, and it isn't the old-fashioned Ayn Rand libertarianism that was such a rage during the Reagan era.

This hot new experimental ideology, enthusiastically embraced by Silicon Valley billionaires and their "tech bros" dismantling our government, is called the Dark Enlightenment or the neo-reactionary movement (NRx).

And it's not entirely new; they believe they have proof that it works it can be found way over on the other side of the planet. I've been there, in fact, and it does seem to be working just fine ... if you don't care about freedom."

much more at the link including the Corporate Board Authoritarian Gov of Singapore, which is the model.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-22 05:47 PM | Reply

"Behind Vance and Musk is a libertarian community of rich crypto bros, tech executives, back-to-the-landers, and disaffected far-right intellectuals.

"Curtis Yarvin comes as close as anyone as being their intellectual godfather. He has written that political power in the United States is held by a liberal amalgam of universities and the mainstream media whose commitment to equality and justice is eroding America's social order.

"In Yarvin's view, democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful. They should be replaced with sovereign joint-stock corporations whose major shareholders' select an executive with total power, who serves at their pleasure.

"Yarvin refers to the city-state of Singapore as an example of a successful authoritarian regime."

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-22 06:19 PM | Reply

Followed by the democratic experiment to kill billionaires.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-22 09:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You clowns would really like this little tidbit to disapperar.

Kamala Harris Has More Billionaires Prominently Backing Her Than Trump

www.forbes.com

finance.yahoo.com

www.msn.com

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-23 09:06 PM | Reply

"You clowns would really like this little tidbit to disapperar."

Why>?
Why would we want that to disappear?

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-23 09:06 PM | Reply

"Kamala Harris Has More Billionaires "

Which ones recommended jacking up taxes and unemployment, so they could get trillions in new tax cuts?

I thought I was watching closely, but maybe I missed it.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-23 09:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Kamala Harris Has More Billionaires "

Which jackass that I have killfiled for excellent reasons can't tell the difference between billionaires who want an autocracy and are willing to destroy SS for a tax cut, and those who don't?

OK, don't tell me... I've been laughing a lot today already.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 09:22 PM | Reply

-Which jackass that I have killfiled for excellent reasons can't tell the difference between billionaires who want an autocracy and are willing to destroy SS for a tax cut, and those who don't?

So the 7, 8, and 9 figure contributions don't bother you. Only who they give it to.

You don't know what any billionaire truly wants. All you know is who they give money to.

And you're fine with it. Just as long as the election goes your way.

The game is fine. You just hate the score.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

-Which ones recommended jacking up taxes and unemployment, so they could get trillions in new tax cuts?

So tell us where the dozens of billionaires who supported Harris stand on tax policy.

You must know.

Go ahead ... ... ..

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:04 PM | Reply

- You don't know what any billionaire truly wants

I know what Herr Musk wants... 40 more billion next year, and dead SS recipients, because that's what he's going to get.

- Just as long as the election goes your way.

Republicans can't seem to remember that their Party Leader/Pres is a lying criminal rapist traitor... unlike any Pres ever of either party.

- The game is fine.

Just like a Republican.... blame what you are doing on the other guy.

- You must know.

I know they aren't saluting Nazis... in Germany, FFS. Or traumatizing American citizens with threats of all sorts. Or supporting Trump and Putin murdering children and other various civilians in Ukraine.

The two Parties aren't the same anymore, dumbass, if they ever were.

Your false equivalencies and Bellringer impersonations aside.


#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Kamala Harris Has More Billionaires Prominently Backing Her Than Trump

"But if they gave money to Harris it's because they want their taxes to go up, care greatly about the planet, and their employees, and a whole host of other fine attributes. I've looked into their soul and I know"

-corkyforth

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:24 PM | Reply

-I know what Herr Musk wants.

That's 1. The point was the other 40 or 50 and what they want.

But pretend you missed that point.

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:25 PM | Reply

- I've looked into their soul and I know"

That's true.... for Trump and Musk. Because really they don't hide it.

Don't have to when their team is all cultists.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:27 PM | Reply

- The point was the other 40 or 50 and what they want.

No, that's just you saying, "But look at what your team is doing!".

Which is just another logical fallacy; a red herring AND a Whataboutism. You're really getting good at it.

Look at the thread title if you need to know what 'the point' is... it isn't about what other billioniares might or might not be doing, it's about the factual history of what some of them are definitely doing.

Perhaps if you read the article naw. You still wouldn't get, nor care, what your Party is doing to this country.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:31 PM | Reply

-The two Parties aren't the same anymore, dumbass, if they ever were.

Again, way to pretend to miss the point.

Didn't see an argument the parties are the same.

But you'll deflect to it anyway.

Got nothing else, right?

A little advice ... .stay away from the billionaire angle because you'll get it shoved up your ---- each time.

Mean and nasty billionaires give money to members of each party. They want access. A voice, a platform.

I know you can't enjoy your milk and cookies unless someone tells you the dozens of billionaires who gave massive sums to Harris are good people who want good thinks for corky.

But the world isn't that simple.

But keep posting this ---- and keep getting it rubbed in your face.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

But look at what your team is doing!".

Perfect illustration of what a child you are.

It's not about teams

It's about billionaires who want what billionaire want.

They'll leave the cheerleading and score keeping to minions like you

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- getting it rubbed in your face.

You have a vivid imagination.

Reread #14, print it out, and then stick it up your ass. Just tell Jeffy to remove his manhood first.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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And jealous to boot.

What kind of cookies do you prefer before you remove your dentures and strap on the diaper at bedtime?

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#18

Sorry, didn't get that... spit out Jeffy's D so I can understand what you are saying....

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:39 PM | Reply

btw, the thread article is about what certain billionaires on the right are doing... their long-term goal and their strategy laid out.

If all you've got is, 'but someone else is doing something else, too!'. Tell us what their long-term goal and strategy is.... not just be a whiny little B.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:43 PM | Reply

You know what's going to happen next election cycle ... .some of the exact same unnamed billionaires will give to the Democratic Party candidate.

And then you'll Jack them off for switching over and credit them for seeing the light.

Besides Musk and Theil, does the author name anyone else?

Or at they just "Silicon Valley tech bros"?

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:44 PM | Reply

Ah so, Madame Bev, Psychic Readings Only Fiddy Cents!

- does the author name anyone else

Read the article... or have a Jeffy read it to you. He can substitute Dem donor names so it doesn't hurt your feefees so much.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:47 PM | Reply

"But if they gave money to Harris it's because..."

Harris was saying she was going to raise their taxes. Trump was saying he was going to weaponize the DOJ against his donor's enemies.

FFS, we both lived through it. The two parties are NOT the same.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-23 10:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-Harris was saying she was going to raise their taxes.

She was telling you and me that.

But you don't know ---- about what she was telling them.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:48 PM | Reply

#23

Thank you. I have a tendency to speak over Bev's head.... of course, as he's only 5'3", it's hard not to.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:49 PM | Reply

"or have a Jeffy read it to you."

Wow, that guy owns you.

How many times a day do you reference him when he's nowhere near?

Nobody is arguing the parties are the same

At most, the argument is that billionaires are billionaires.

No matter who they write $50 million checks to.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:51 PM | Reply

#24

We know what Trump was telling his donors, 'one million each!' to Big Oil.

But Musk gave him upwards of $300 million for his Doge Job. Harris doesn't get offers like that... and honestly wouldn't take them if she did.

We get it though, YOUR party is SO bad now, all you've got is to CLAIM with no evidence that the other party is just as bad.

Which they obviously are not.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:54 PM | Reply

"So the 7, 8, and 9 figure contributions don't bother you. Only who they give it to."

Are the contributions supposed to bother somebody?
A Republican Supreme Court said contributions are okay.
So all that's left to bother anyone is, who they give it to.

I'm less concerned with who they give it to.
I'm more concerned with who they are they are, doing the giving.
We don't get to know who they are, thanks to Citizens United.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-23 10:55 PM | Reply

- the argument is that billionaires are billionaires.

Most billionaires do not have a plan to turn the American Gov into Singapore, you unimaginable twit!

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 10:56 PM | Reply

Eberly, you don't sense a sea change in the realm of "Moneyed Access To Politics" when Trump's inauguration was attended by half of the Magnificent Seven CEOs who paid a million dollars for front row seats?

Come on.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-23 10:58 PM | Reply

"She was telling you and me that"

Yeah...and the equation she was proposing was telling me that. And telling them that.

Your entire theory is grounded in a fantasy scenario; meanwhile, Trump is grifting in front of everyone's nose.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-23 10:58 PM | Reply

-We get it though, YOUR party is SO bad now, all you've got is to CLAIM with no evidence that the other party is just as bad.

LOL

You'll never get this or pretend to be this stupid. Doesn't matter

This isn't about the goodness of the GOP or that the democrats are just as bad.

It's about billionaires. It's your insipid article. It's about billionaires.

Slam the GOP all you want. I won't argue a bit. And why can't Hartman name the billionaires? Why not call them out individually?

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 10:59 PM | Reply

"And telling them that."

I asked you earlier to tell me what those billionaire want. You didn't answer.

Now you imagine you know what Harris told them. You were in the meetings?

That's great. Why didn't you just say so?

Tell us what they want and tell us what Harris told them while accepting their $50 million contributions.

Go ahead ... ... ...

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 11:02 PM | Reply

- your insipid article

Bev, you ignorant ----... 'Most billionaires do not have a plan to turn the American Gov into Singapore'.

But feel free to prove the article author wrong on the subject. Show your werk, though.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 11:02 PM | Reply

-Your entire theory is grounded in a fantasy scenario;

It's a fantasy that a billionaire hedge fund manager had a candid conversation with Harris before handing her $50 million?

They just watched her speeches on CNN and said "he'll, I like her. Honey, get my checkbook!"

Yeah, that's how it works.

Fantasy?

Unbelievable

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 11:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Now you imagine you know what Harris told them. "

Dude...YOU'RE the one imagining she's telling us one thing, and the folks in private meetings something else.

100% projection.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-23 11:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-----

LOL

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 11:06 PM | Reply

-YOU'RE the one imagining she's telling us one thing, and the folks in private meetings something else.

And you're imagining that doesn't happen.

Are

You

Serious?

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 11:07 PM | Reply

"They just watched her speeches on CNN and said "he'll, I like her. Honey, get my checkbook!"

More likely, they saw Trump and had that reaction. Just like a lot of folks didn't vote FOR Biden in 2020, they voted AGAINST Trump.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-23 11:09 PM | Reply

I see that Bev is still in the 5 year old's, 'But... but, what about all the other billionaires, Mommy!" stage.

That's still a Whataboutism; a logical fallacy which isn't a rebuttal to the argument made in the article outlining the history of an effort to undermine democracy in this country by CERTAIN billionaires.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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You keep co-mingling joe 6 pack voters and billionaires.

And lecturing me about reality

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 11:11 PM | Reply

"And you're imagining that doesn't happen."

Harris was public with a position diametrically opposed to Trump's.

Your theory assumes Harris was lying, while Trump was telling the truth.

Kind of silly, don't you think?

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-23 11:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

-That's still a Whataboutism; a logical fallacy which isn't a rebuttal to the argument made in the article outlining the history of an effort to undermine democracy in this country by CERTAIN billionaires.

Billionaires he doesn't have the nuts to identity.

And it's not like we don't know who they are but he doesn't name them. Another subject, regardless.

What in the article have I argued with? I have no problem with it.

Jesus ... ... ...

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 11:14 PM | Reply

- Billionaires he doesn't have the nuts to identity.

They are ID'd in the article... and I named them in excepts.

You really don't have anything at all, do you?

- Jesus

He's not a fan of drunks.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 11:18 PM | Reply

-Your theory assumes Harris was lying, while Trump was telling the truth.

Promise a tax plan she knows has little chance of passing but still wants to campaign on it while still enlisting the support of billionaires she promising TO CORKY AND DANFORTH she's going to make pay their fair share?

Wouldn't be the first time a democrat succeeded at that.

I have to prep for tomorrow, fellas.

Have a good night.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-23 11:18 PM | Reply

- I have to prep for tomorrow, fellas.

FFS! How many ------- exams does this guy need each year?

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 11:20 PM | Reply

"Promise a tax plan she knows has little chance of passing"

Don't be a dumfuq.

All she had to do was let the current one sunset.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-23 11:22 PM | Reply

- Don't be a dumfuq.

That's apparently more difficult for him than it sounds.

And how many threads is this now that he's come on pissing and moaning and whining about the premise... then after 50 posts he says he really doesn't have any problem with the premise?

Are we over 100 of those yet?

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-23 11:26 PM | Reply

I like Luigi's solution better when it comes to Billionaires.

#49 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-03-24 12:28 AM | Reply

I like Luigi's solution better when it comes to Billionaires.

#50 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-03-24 12:28 AM | Reply

"Nothing will fundamentally change"

Anyone want to take a guess who said that and who the audience was? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller ... Bueller ...

#51 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-24 09:28 AM | Reply

"Nothing will fundamentally change"

Is that bad? Is something supposed to change?
Is that why you voted for Trump, is he fundamentally changing things?

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-24 09:29 AM | Reply

Snoofy and his engagement farming.... LMAO

#53 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-24 10:42 AM | Reply

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