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It says it's building a 1GW virtual power plant, but it's really just paying people to turn off their appliances so others can use that electricity instead.

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"A gaping wound of earth" Google illegally knocked down 250,000 trees in Finland to build a data center. @nonewdatacenters (From the Guardian)

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... Google has an answer to some of the electricity supply problems that data center construction is causing: It has signed an agreement with energy supplier Voltus to build what it's calling a 1-gigawatt virtual power plant, expanding on an earlier 100 megawatt deal the two signed earlier this year.

This power plant is virtual in the sense that it doesn't generate any electricity itself, but aggregates so-called flexible grid capacity into one central resource that can be deployed at times of peak demand. This flexible capacity can be in the form of batteries or of load-shedding: asking others to temporarily stop consuming electricity by shutting down industrial processes or adjusting tens of thousands of smart thermostats at once, effectively moving their electricity usage to a time when there is less demand.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 07:33 PM | Reply

So ... google effectively seems to be saying, ~you have have to use less power so that we can suck the electrical grid dry, and cause your electrical rates to rise?~

That's mighty Big Tech of them.

And I note this does not even begin to address the water usage issues of data centers.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#2 ... this does not even begin to address the water usage issues of data centers. ...

A data center drained 30M gallons of water unnoticed " until residents complained about low water pressure (May 2026)
www.politico.com

... The neighbors of a data center in Georgia are steaming after they discovered the facility had sucked up nearly 30 million gallons of water -- without initially paying for it.

Outrage started bubbling up last year when residents of an affluent subdivision named Annelise Park in Fayetteville, Georgia, noticed their water pressure was unusually low.

When the county utility investigated, officials discovered two industrial-scale water hookups feeding a data center campus located 20 miles south of downtown Atlanta. One water connection had been installed without the utility's knowledge, and the other was not linked to the company's account and therefore wasn't being billed.

All told, the developer, Quality Technology Services, owed nearly $150,000 for using more than 29 million gallons of unaccounted-for water. That is equivalent to 44 Olympic-size swimming pools and far exceeds the peak limit agreed to during the data center planning process. ...


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 07:38 PM | Reply

Fuck Google

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-10-26 07:43 PM | Reply

Related ...

Big, noisy and coming to a town near you - why the data centre backlash is growing
www.bbc.com

... Until a few years ago many of us may have been blissfully unaware of what a data centre was.

These giant, warehouse-like buildings power virtually all our internet activity, from our web searches and emails to movie downloads and online banking.

They are at the heart of the AI boom, housing the advanced computer chips and servers needed to run services like ChatGPT and Claude.

But the speed at which they're growing, the enormous amount of electricity they consume and concerns about their environmental impact are fuelling a public backlash around the world.

In the US, they've become a huge issue ahead of the midterm elections on 3 November, with both Republicans and opposition Democrats coming out against their development.

It's putting opponents of data centre expansion on a collision course with US President Donald Trump, who has dismissed the pushback as a "sick conspiracy", even as public anger grows.

Here's what you need to know about the data centre boom, and why opposition is growing.
They are growing rapidly

There are about 12,250 data centres around the world, according to Data Center Map, a company that tracks both operational and pre-operational sites.

That's up sharply from 2021, when there were around 8,000 operational sites.

As the chart below shows, data centres are most densely clustered in the US which has 4,767 sites. It is followed by Europe, where the UK and Germany lead.

Data centres have typically been located near to cities where it's easier to access high voltage power lines or water resources for cooling. But as they get bigger, more are being built in rural areas. ...


[good links and maps in the article]

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 08:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#5 ... Data centres have typically been located near to cities where it's easier to access high voltage power lines or water resources for cooling. But as they get bigger, more are being built in rural areas. ...

Curious that now data centers seem to be built in rural areas, Pres trump has taken notice of them.

And, seemingly, dis'd his own rural supporters, saying, ~deal with them.~


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 08:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, in order to allow a noisy data center to locate in a neighborhood, with 24/7 turbines generating noise, google is saying, hey, just turn down your thermostats and all will be OK?

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 11:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How Loud Is a Data Center? How Far Does the Noise Travel?
www.lsars.com

... Continuous noise from cooling fans and transformers reaches 60 to 80 dB at the property line. Generator load tests can be heard up to a mile away. The defining problem is the 24/7 nature of the noise, not the peak loudness. ...

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 11:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One thing to note regarding data centers is the difference between sound pressure level and sound power level.

Unfortunately, it may not be an easy thing to understand.

To that end ...

Sound Pressure and Sound Power - what's the difference?
www.parkerjonesacoustics.com

... The difference between sound pressure and sound power can be tricky to get your head around. For predicting noise levels from noise polluting sources like plant, it is very important.

As a consultant, I'm often verbally quoted noise levels by clients, i.e. this unit has a level of 60 dB'. Unfortunately, based on that alone, I can't do a great deal, without making a lot of assumptions. If you tell me it's 140 dB I know it's going to be very loud and problematic! But at 60 dB, depending on the situation, it's difficult to assess the risk.

What is a sound pressure level (SPL)?

A sound pressure is the pressure deviation from atmospheric pressure caused by a sound wave, in pascals. The sound pressure level (SPL) is a logarithmic measure of the ratio of a sound pressure over a reference sound pressure (corresponding to the hearing threshold of a young, healthy ear), quoted as a dB. If these two pressures are the same, we have an SPL of 0 dB.

A sound pressure level is what we can physically measure using a sound level meter. Most noise level parameters in a report are based upon an SPL, albeit they are mostly adjusted in some way, i.e. weighted to a single number (dB(A)), or a level difference such as a Dw.

A sound power level (SWL) is theoretical. A sound power is in Watts (W), a sound power level like above, is in dB, a logarithmic ratio of the sound power over a reference sound power. W for Watts, hence SWL (as SPL is already taken!) I'll explain more shortly.

Why do we need sound power levels (SWL)?

The sound pressure level (SPL) depends on distance, the position of the source and the environment, i.e. reflections from the ground, or if inside the surfaces of the room and therefore the reverberation time and volume of the room. So if we measure the SPL of a fan unit inside a plant room, and move this fan outside, the SPL is unlikely to be the same because of more sound energy escaping into the atmosphere. Similarly, if the unit is in the corner of a room, condensing sound radiation by the surfaces close around it, and then move this unit into the centre of the room on the floor, where it radiates more hemi spherically, the SPL will be different. Simply moving further away from a sound source, will reduce the SPL, particularly noticeable when outside.

If we take a large plant enclosure, with many different machines from different manufacturers, who all give us noise data as a sound pressure level, but all measured at varying distances, some in a lab, some outside, some in an anechoic chamber (or very often not referencing how it was measured at all which is effectively useless data as it could be measured at 1m or 10m!), we'll have a hard time predicting the sum of noise levels from our plant enclosure.

The sound power level (SWL) helps us around this. It is not dependent on distance, position or environment. This is the crucial difference. It is a theoretical value; it is not directly measurable. A noise source will have the same sound power irrespective of where it is placed. It gives us a level playing field to directly compare two sound sources. Predicting the noise levels from our plant enclosure is now much simpler, we can apply the same calculation to all of our equipment. ...


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

LAMP lighter yeah whatever

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-10-26 11:32 PM | Reply

@#10

That's the best your current alias has got?

Wow.

If I may be so bold to suggest ... do try harder.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-26 11:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#10 ... LAMP lighter yeah whatever ...

Likely apropos here ...

The Browns -- The Old Lamplighter
www.youtube.com

So, what else yer current trolling alias got?


:)

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-10-27 02:15 AM | Reply

My guess is, if the voters of a region actually had a vote in big tech construction...much of the data center construction would be voted "off the island".

#13 | Posted by Hughmass at 2026-10-27 06:18 AM | Reply

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