I know it isn't the makers fault in this case but I can also give you an example of a car dealership taking advantage of man of diminished mental capacity during COVID. They sold him 8 different vehicles on financing one after another. He was CLEARLY in a diminished state of mental capacity as well. All I have to do is post a photo of him for you to see that. His son made them aware of his dementia and they kept selling him cars while he was working things through the courts.

Is it? If as Gary claims, they new and had evidence of the fact the dealers they were selling to were facilitating straw purchases? It's more like saying GM has evidence that dealers are selling cars to drunks and letting them drive out of the lot in them. And those said drivers were then getting into deadly accidents - and the KNEW this was a common place activity? Would that not be criminally negligent of them? pfffft GM would be sued by the victims families in addition to the dealerships. So do you really think GM would allow this behavior day in and out?

Why are the Gun companies hiding from discovery for 4 years? I am going to bet it is because they know and there is evidence they know all the way to the top.

Those protests are DEFINITELY larger than Trump's inauguration crowd... Massive - ACTUALLY Massive.

Orban is another wannabe dictator that rode a populist wave to office. Think Putin, Erdogan, Trump and others of their ilk.

What these clowns denouncing Democrats don't understand is that this is what GOP donors want. They are wealthy and own companies. They want cheep illegal labor. They want to replace them with immigrants because the immigrants are there to work and make a living. Do you HONESTLY think anyone hiring these children didn't know they were VERY young? They had supervisors at the plant. They were either happy to put them to work 14 or not or told not to ask questions and didn't.

Repbulicans are double dipping. They are making money off the back of these people based on their status and keeping an issue alive that garners them votes. That said Democrats won't bring up a real plan that is actually to the benefit of most because it WILL cost them votes.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut

You have been watching too much "CSI"...

First yes, there is no way to completely eliminate voter fraud.
Second, we keep catching the fraudsters. I think it is about 10:1 Con to Liberal.
Third, WT_ was that slap on the wrist? People who legitimately thought they had a right to vote are being thrown in prison. This clown votes 9 times and receives a $5k fine? Red states for you.
Finally, "while serving probation for felony check FORGERY" he was Georgia GOP Vice Chair. Family Values! GOP Values!

#3 | Posted by Effeteposer

No, this just shows how effed up some cultures are. Ours isn't perfect but Pakistan is special kind of effed. And yes several other "brown Muslim" countries are too.

How is this something any reasonable person could condone today and where is MonkeyHooHa to explain/defend it?

#5 | Posted by LampLighter

You gave it your name!?!?! I know some people in my friends list that didn't even do that.

Too light the last massive ponzi schemer got life.

A lot of colleagues and family members will be at the very least coughing up ill gotten gains as well. Some may even be roomies.

There's a real chance for a 3rd party... Nah.

This is such B-------. Yes, it's stressful for people letting others go but just wow. Talk about cold. If I saw an email like that it would by my immediate thought this was the plan - mass firing.

So just going to say this...

You can say what you want but it doesn't mean there are not consequences. It is something we talk about when right wingers are regularly punished for their speech. Does it apply here? Certainly. People can ostracize this group as they see fit.

This group published information Musk didn't like and made his platform look bad. What he sought to do was use "Terms of Use" of the platform to attack them for damages, which the judges saw through. I mean accusing them of screen scraping... lol.

#13 | Posted by LampLighter

Have you been hacked? lol

My taxes sure didn't go down. Our withholding went up significantly last year to cover a short fall. That shortfall was twice as big this year. Trump's expiring cuts on the middle class and stupid restructuring of withholding.

If this is indeed true, shouldn't this be investigated and he impeached?

Remember the good ole days of the fairness doctrine? We didn't see rampant lying (well not the kind of today anyhow) but we did see discourse.

#5 | Posted by danni

I dare say that it had a lot of strategic value. It torqued a lot of our allies and sowed dissent.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

No they don't. They knew it was going to happen and wanted it to happen to blame on Ukraine. Whether or not it was a false flag is another question. So many things don't add up that it a virtual certainty it was orchestrated by the Kremlin.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter

Real based on pics of him in court.

I question the legality of the US claims to try him for espionage. The party guilt of that was caught. He published the fruits of it to the world (I am sure at Russia's behest.) He isn't an American citizen and did not venture to America to collect the data he was provided. He is a foreigner, in a foreign country doing his thing. He isn't an American. He wasn't in America spying. He was arguably - at that time - a journalist. He was provided documents by a disillusioned serviceman. I think "Pentagon Papers".

Dude is a Russian stooge though.

#39 | Posted by truthhurts

To be clear a local port pilot was at the helm and thankfully he called a mayday. I don't know what caused the power outages and I don't know what the options were after the first one. I know these are massive ships with sophisticated maneuvering but I have wondered why there are not appropriate sized tugs accompanying them these days - and for that matter automatic secondary power on board.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts

Link is missing.

#34 | Posted by LampLighter

I went and viewed the linked video about 20 times. And indeed. I studied this. A long time ago now... I became a Civil Engineer specialized in Structures and Construction management by degree and limited practice before I moved to IT. I will also say I didn't get to work on bridges. I worked on suspension steel and trusses in manufacturing and power generation plants. I totally get the main span and if you are watching the video the span to the left of the piling as well. Truss bridges are a lot less expensive to build and maintain so they are used all over and it makes sense in most cases. This was kind of a combination of Truss and Arc - which I didn't realize before. I suspect that is part of the cause of the far span collapse.

If that ship hit a proper suspension bridge Pier/cap/piling for the span of this bridge. It is hard to say. It all depends on how well the bridge was designed, maintained and the circumstances. Same conditions with a suspension bridge? Yes, it would likely destroy the bridge but would it collapse like this? I am skeptical - it may very well collapse but it did not collapse the support system. It certainly moved it. You would certainly have sections of the deck fail - break apart and maybe fall. That said, if this was a well done suspension bridge you also likely would have a much wider channel and not a support straddling the channel. The current center span was about a quarter mile - that is nothing for a suspension bridge. At Baltimore, in the future you would certainly design for a ship strike of this size or larger. (I haven't looked into it but I am a bit surprised it was not retrofitted with bumpers.) You may even make the span wide enough that it is not possible for a ship of any size to strike the pilings without having grounded well before. They will also likely raise the deck so even bigger ships stacked higher can make their way into port in the future.

That poor construction crew - looks like they were the only ones on the span though.

Ben Schafer, professor of civil and systems engineering at Johns Hopkins University, told CBS News that most bridges in the U.S. fall in this "fair" range, which is "not what we would want or suspect" as a society. But, he said, the massive ship " not the condition of the Key Bridge " is likely to blame for its collapse.

#30 | Posted by qcp

Wish I would have relaoded That's actually funny. The ship is the absolute cause. That said... The condition could have contributed to the fact the ENTIRE SPAN collapsed.

He is right about not what we would expect in the condition of bridges. We don't think about the condition of these bridges. Then one falls all on its own (not this one) and we are aware for a day then we go right back to our oblivious status. I can think of a least a couple in the last 20 years - major bridges on major interstates. I know 3 small ones (over creeks) in my county that have failed in the same time span. In general we have not done proper up keep and replacement on them for 40-50 years.