Maybe we should build a few shacks acros the street from your house and release them there. Surely you'd welcome them with open arms!

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-19 10:42 PM | Reply

How about charge them with a crime and try them in a court of law and if found guilty lock them up. You know like the Constitution directs us to do. Oh I know why we can't do that now. Because we violated their rights and violated the international treaty against torture. We're covering our hiney by not doing so.

Thanks, sometimes I doubt my memory.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-19 10:43 PM | Reply

You're welcome. I don't forget much.

Habeas corpus, meaning "you shall have the body," is a legal action used to ensure a person's detention is lawful, and it's often seen as a crucial safeguard for due process, ensuring no one is unjustly imprisoned.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
What is Habeas Corpus?
A writ of habeas corpus is a court order directing an individual (or the custodian of an individual) to bring the person before the court to determine the legality of their detention.
The literal meaning is "you shall have the body," meaning the judge or court must have any person being detained brought forward to assess the legality of their detention.
How it relates to Due Process:
Due process, as outlined in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, guarantees fair legal procedures and protections against government actions that deprive individuals of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
Habeas corpus serves as a crucial check on government power, ensuring that individuals are not unjustly detained and that their right to due process is respected.
Habeas corpus is particularly important when prior due process is lacking, as it can provide a means of review even when other legal avenues are

I don't believe in water boarding. I don't believe that torture is an effective method for obtaining reliable information from thick-skinned enemies. Interrogation methods have gotten so sophisticated that inflicting torturous pain has become obsolete as a means of obtains valuable information.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-19 10:25 PM | Reply

You sure did at the time Jeff. You said torture works and that's why we're doing it. You railed against those of us that opposed its use as being dangerous to America. You wholeheartedly supported it. I remember.

I disagree, what makes a society civilized is the threat of a government that wields the use of the death penalty when a person violates the social contract.

Allowing only people to commit heinous murder in a civilized society is the ultimate hypocrisy.

just sayin.

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 10:20 PM | Reply

You have no idea how stupid you sound. Locking someone up for murder is hardly allowing someone to commit heinous murder. Just sayin

I'm observing 20 years of your posts accurately, jeff. When there's a constitution destroying president like George W Bush or Trump you don't care.

When Obama and Biden were in office you were suddenly a constitutional scholar and screaming with your hair on fire (over student loans LOL)

Now we have trump again and you're complaining about Biden (which is a deflection and a whataboutism in this thread) Trump is smashing our amendments with impunity and not a peep from you.

#108 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-19 10:11 PM | Reply

Let's not forget that every time Dubya violated the Constitution Jeff would deflect to Clinton too. I vividly remember those days.

We will never be a civilized society will we?? The death penalty is the ultimate in hypocrisy. Just sayin.

Yup. Jeff is more interested in his team "winning" than the actual constitution, which he uses as a cudgel when a democrat is in office.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-19 09:39 PM | Reply

THIS!!!!!!!!!!! SO MUCH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump can't even get a No Tell piece prize. Just sayin.

It makes complete sense that an independent agency should be the only ones who make policy such as the EPA. You don't want nor champion political Congress critters that are bought off by the same corporations and entities that need regulating. You'll wind up with places like Picher Oklahoma and a mile and a quarter as the crow fly northwest Treece Kansas.

whats your point?

Congress can make agencies, but they belong to the executive after they're born

Posted by itchyp at 2025-03-18 07:02 PM | Reply

Ummmmmmm no. They belong to We the People. The president's job is to manage them. That's it in a nutshell.

Republicans have to have a boogyman in order to keep the evangelicals voting for them. It's the way its been since I've been alive. They can't run on ideas that are good for the country because they have none.

A dumpster fire ehhhhhhhhhhh??

I'm pretty sure Obama gave Crimea away back during his Presidency, but hey what do I know ...

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-03-17 09:43 PM | Reply

Not much apparently.

Apparently clean air and clean water are overrated. Typical ignorant buffoons.

I don't think it was a "blanket" pardon, Nixon was in the middle of impeachment. The pardon itself only covered Nixon's actions during the Watergate scandal.

Biden took it waaaaay further than that.

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-17 04:33 PM | Reply.

Presidential pardons are absolute and unquestionable. Deal with it.

What a yellow bellyed chicken Shhht. He ain't worth a tinkers damn for anything.

You could have proffered a decent Conservative in 2016. You wouldn't be in this fix if you had. Just sayin.

Zed, I would rather take a 3 week stint in the cooler for being honest than to make crazy ass comments about shooting a President like yourself and Legally have done.

Sorry you guys lost your Ukrainian war. It was funny watching Zelenskyy show his true colors to the world, and sad he had to come back begging to Trump.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-03-14 04:28 PM | Reply

GFY You MAGA Trumper. If you were any kind of decent American you'd support Zelenskyy. Just sayin

Have you ever even been to Washington DC (besides on January 6th)?'

It's where everyone goes to protest about their own personal pet peeve.

Why should Black Lives Matter be prevented from protesting about their cause?

Please stick to the exact reason YOU think they should not be able to protest in Washington DC and be specific.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-14 12:53 PM | Reply

He has no concept about any of that sadly. I was there in August of 98 with My Dad and they were protesting something even then. It's where you go to protest your federal government and the country.

DEI is being recognized for the toxicity that it is. The sooner it's shunned the better off our society will be.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-14 12:49 AM | Reply

You know who says DEI is to toxic?? White supremacists. That's who.

Hire the most qualified. Do that and everything else takes care of itself.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-13 09:48 PM | Reply

Not when you're promoting white Christian nationalism it does not take care of itself. Just sayin.

Kissinger was quite the Wag.

Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-13 10:29 PM | Reply

When you use a war criminal to make your point. You lose the argument to me. Just sayin.

Hakeem Jefferies is the Merrick Garland of Susan Collins. Sad to say.

How can anyone, Right or Left, not be offended by the reality that Tesla has not paid taxes for years. It is incomprehensible. Everyone should be angry. Especially rightwingers who always claim that the Fed government is full of waste.

Posted by moder8 at 2025-03-13 04:52 PM | Reply

When things like this become expected they cease to be offended. Sadly