Advertisement

Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, March 17, 2025

In a scathing attack on former President Joe Biden, US President Donald Trump declared that presidential pardons issued by are "VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT""alleging they were signed using an autopen without his predecessor's knowledge or direct approval. Trump's statement, posted to his Truth Social account, specifically targeted members of the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th Capitol riot, whom he dubbed the "Unselect Committee of Political Thugs." Trump claimed that any pardons associated with the committee are illegitimate due to their alleged use of the autopen, a device that reproduces a person's signature.

More

Alternate links: Google News | Twitter

Seems like this is going to end up in front of SCOTUS. If found to be void, I'd place good money on ole Liz Cheney fleeing the country.

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

Trumpf also withdrew Biden's Presidential Baily Brief (PDB), given as a courtesy to all ex-POTUS. And last July, Joe was kind enough to personally reach out to Trumpf after the failed assassination attempt, which the Dotard publicly acknowledged and appreciated. Trumpf hates Biden more than Obama (who still receives the PDB). #47 is suffering from Biden Derangement Syndrome (BDS).

https://northbrisbanepsychologists.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/donald-trump-angry-.jpg

Link: https://nypost.com/2024/07/22/us-news/trump-reveals-what-biden-told-him-on-call-after-assassination-
attempt/

#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-17 04:52 AM | Reply

As the Trump economy melts down to recession or even depression he will get increasingly angry as he tries to divert the blame to previous presidents. If we had a Supreme Court they would declare his attempt to declare pardons granted by Biden illegal but we don't have a Supreme Court any more. They were replaced with a rubber stamp.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2025-03-17 06:13 AM | Reply

#2: SCOTUS is an unelected Politburo, appointed for life, issuing diktats against the best interests of the American people. SCOTUS Justices have the best jobs in Washington DC. Look at their arduous workload: www.vox.com

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-17 06:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

The pardons need to be challenged irrespective of whether or not they were signed by autopen.

A president can't offer blanket pre-pardons for crimes you haven't been charged or convicted of.

They should all be tossed and every crime prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

#4 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-17 09:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

LMAO!

Who posted this utter nonsensical bullshht? Ah. LuftWaffles!
An entire post of nothing but Trump's insane ranting screed published by the Times of India? Not a legal finding, not a single judge ruling, nothing? NOTHING?

Seriously - you wasted everyone's time with this bullshht? Seriously?

LMAO!

Moron.

#5 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-17 09:12 AM | Reply

POTUS Jimmy Carter's first official act was to blanket pardon all Vietnam War draft evaders and he ordered a review of all military desertion cases (Proclamation 4483 and Executive Order 11967), autopen or not. This pardon would cover Trumpf who weaseled out of the draft when his father got that podiatrist on Hillside Avenue to sign that his golfing son had "bone spurs." I passed by that podiatrist's office in the early 1980s many times.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.timetoast.com/public/uploads/photos/11895231/get.jpeg?1524492514



#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-17 09:33 AM | Reply

You know what? I take back #5. I want to give a sincere and big THANK YOU for pointing out that the Moscow Agent Governing America, otherwise known as "Trump", is a ranting, detached from reality, demented psycho.

Again - THANK YOU!

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-17 09:38 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

You're welcome Yav, enjoy the next 4 years my friend.

#8 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-03-17 10:40 AM | Reply

#8 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

You are one nasty man.

You seem to be comfortable with it.

I guess that's good.

Because over the next four years Donald Trump is going to prove to you that he always thought you were a POS.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-17 11:06 AM | Reply

"Trump", is a ranting, detached from reality, demented psycho.

#7 | POSTED BY YAV

Yes, and because of that someone will try to depose him.

It's what happens to dictators.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-17 11:07 AM | Reply

" A president can't offer blanket pre-pardons for crimes you haven't been charged or convicted of."

Gerald Ford did.

#11 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-03-17 11:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You're welcome Yav, enjoy the next 4 years my friend.

We'll see if it lasts four years. We'll see if you last four years.
Those leopards are busy eating MAGA faces.
I'm thinking it's just getting started.

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-17 11:35 AM | Reply

The Lyin King goes on a nonsensical rant and bluewiffles is overcome with joy and admiration.

Must be another day ending in y.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-17 12:15 PM | Reply

"If found to be void, I'd place good money on ole Liz Cheney fleeing the country."

Because telling the truth, for a Republican, should always end with severe punishment.

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-17 12:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

------- can Jedi mind trick declassify every government secret including nuclear secrets but Biden can't get help to sign ---- likely due to incipient arthritis

---- this country

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-17 12:44 PM | Reply

BWaffles is a cultist who believes whatever he's told, no matter the evidence to the contrary.

"Zoom in: As long as a pardon is valid, it is final, says Jeffrey Crouch, an American University professor and expert in federal executive clemency.

"Other presidents have used an autopen to grant pardons," he said.

Kimberly Wehle, a University of Baltimore law professor who has written extensively about the pardon power, said Trump would likely lose a legal challenge on his argument.

"There's no magic in the mechanism of a pardon," she said of the signature machine versus Hancock-by-hand debate."

www.axios.com

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-17 01:39 PM | Reply

This is like when a Sovereign Citizen doesn't recognize the standing of the Court because the Flag doesn't have a Gold Fringe.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-17 01:45 PM | Reply

Trumpy can declare in one hand and crap in the other and see which hand fills up first.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-17 01:55 PM | Reply

---- this country

#15 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

No. It's ---- Trumpy.

Trumpy is not the country.

Apparently the whole country needed to "go through some things" before it can come to its senses..

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-17 01:59 PM | Reply

When incredible speculation arose earlier this year that President Biden ought to pardon President-elect Trumpf to give him a "clean slate", a pardon was drafted. The seventh entry is what that pardon would have said: coriolanus.page

#20 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-17 02:48 PM | Reply


autopen or not.

autopen was introduced by Obama.

IMO the autopen should not be allowed.

Ergo these Biden pardons, and the Trump J6 pardons are null and void in my thinking.

The President should be required to sign everything personally, its the only way to know if he actually has seen the document.

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-17 04:27 PM | Reply


This is like when a Sovereign Citizen doesn't recognize the standing of the Court because the Flag doesn't have a Gold Fringe.

Not its not, its not anything like that.

#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-17 04:28 PM | Reply


Gerald Ford did.

#11 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

I don't think it was a "blanket" pardon, Nixon was in the middle of impeachment. The pardon itself only covered Nixon's actions during the Watergate scandal.

Biden took it waaaaay further than that.

#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-17 04:33 PM | Reply


A president can't offer blanket pre-pardons for crimes you haven't been charged or convicted of.

From what I recall a President can offer pre-pardons to particular crimes which he/she feels is unjust.

For instance the claim: Jimmy Carter's first official act was to blanket pardon all Vietnam War draft evaders and he ordered a review of all military desertion cases (Proclamation 4483 and Executive Order 11967), autopen or not.M

The pardon above is not a BLANKET pardon, but a very specific pardon regarding a particular law.

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-17 04:36 PM | Reply

I don't think it was a "blanket" pardon, Nixon was in the middle of impeachment. The pardon itself only covered Nixon's actions during the Watergate scandal.

Biden took it waaaaay further than that.

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-17 04:33 PM | Reply.

Presidential pardons are absolute and unquestionable. Deal with it.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-17 04:45 PM | Reply

- null and void in my thinking.

Why he has this horrible echo in his head all the time. It's the absolute emptiness.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-17 04:47 PM | Reply

I wonder how much internet trolls are paid nowadays? They must lead truly sad lives in the 21st century of triumphalist capitalism. The Chinese trolls employed by the CCP are called "Wu Maos" and they are paid by the penny (hence their names). When I'm not on the internet, I'm swimming, playing bridge or chess, reading, writing non-fiction, or cooking for my wife. Right now I'm listening to Beethoven's 3rd Symphony (Eroica). What lives do internet trolls lead?

https://i0.wp.com/elsakurt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/troll.jpg?fit=800,795&ssl=1

#27 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-17 06:33 PM | Reply

"Wu Maos"

1WuMaoNut?

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-17 06:56 PM | Reply

@#28 ... "Wu Maos" ...

50 Cent Party
en.wikipedia.org

... The 50 Cent Party, also known as the 50 Cent Army or wumao (/wuma/; from Chinese: "; lit. 'five dimes'), are Internet commentators who are paid by the authorities of the People's Republic of China to spread the propaganda of the governing Chinese Communist Party (CCP).[1][2][3] The program was created during the early phases of the Internet's rollout to the wider public in China.[1]

The name is derived from claims such commentators were reportedly paid RMB0.50 for every post.[1][4] These commentators create comments or articles on popular Chinese social media networks that are intended to derail discussions which are critical of the CCP, promoting narratives that serve the government's interests and insulting or spreading misinformation about political opponents of the Chinese government, both domestic and abroad.[5][6][7] ...


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-17 07:22 PM | Reply

@#21 ... autopen was introduced by Obama. ...

Therefore, bad?

This looks like Pres Trump desperately trying to deflect attention away from the economic fiasco he seems to be creating.

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-17 07:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"POTUS Jimmy Carter's first official act was to blanket pardon all Vietnam War draft evaders"

Swing and a miss...

Carter was able to articulate what the pardons were for. Biden, not so much.

BTW accepting a pardon for a crime is an admission of guilt.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-17 08:57 PM | Reply

#31 Then asking for a pardon is an admission of guilt, right Sporkfoot?

#32 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-18 11:57 AM | Reply

This looks like Pres Trump desperately trying to deflect attention away from the economic fiasco he seems to be creating.

#30 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Pretty soon he'll have to strip himself naked and light himself on fire to do that.

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-18 12:18 PM | Reply

------- signed 1600 Jan 6 pardons?

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-18 12:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Why, of course Trumpf signed 1,600 pardons in one day by hand, Truthhurts! Our president is an Olympian: i1.wp.com

#35 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-18 12:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

------- signed 1600 Jan 6 pardons?
#34 | Posted by truthhurts

No, I mentioned this the first day, which was three days ago.

You really are behind.

#36 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-18 01:02 PM | Reply

enjoy the next 4 years my friend.
#8 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

We get it.

You hate America and anything that's done to hurt this nation fills you with sadistic glee.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-18 01:07 PM | Reply

Then asking for a pardon is an admission of guilt, right Sporkfoot?

#32 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-18 11:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

One would have to accept an actual pardon to admit guilt. Did you have someone in particular in mind you were referring to?

#38 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-18 02:11 PM | Reply

The criminal Dems signing autopen pardons are no different than grifters tricking old people into changing their wills. The same standard should be applied and we need to adjudicate:

1.) Did Biden actually know of the pardons and what they entailed (doubt he ever read a single one)?
2.) Was Biden of sound mind if he actually did authorize them?

Given the DOJ found Biden too incompetent to stand trial, I believe the same standard would apply that he lacks the mental capabilities to sign these pardons or any other legal document for that matter.

#39 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-03-18 07:52 PM | Reply

Did Biden actually know of the pardons and what they entailed (doubt he ever read a single one)?

I'm sure Joe Biden has no idea who Fauci and Hunter Biden are.

You're a ------- idiot, to put it bluntly.

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-18 07:56 PM | Reply

"I'm sure Joe Biden has no idea who Fauci and Hunter Biden are.
#40 | Posted by Alexandrite"

I am sure Biden still has moments of lucidity. However, did the autopen authorization occur during one of these moments? We don't know. If it was a will, there would be hearing on it. I am still not entirely convinced that Biden was even aware of the pardons.

#41 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-03-18 09:02 PM | Reply

You really are a fccking idiot.

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-18 09:56 PM | Reply

"You really are a fccking idiot.
#42 | Posted by YAV"

Is that what you say to the mirror after hooking up with a married ---- on the downlow?

#43 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-03-18 10:55 PM | Reply

Aw. What's it like to have to keep coming up with one screen name after another because you're so undisciplined, so vile, so utterly contemptable, so dishonest? I wondered where you went. Now we all know!

By the way:
YAV
Joined 2005/09/24

#44 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-18 11:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"YAV
Having sex with married downlow ----- since 1995/09/24
#44 | Posted by YAV"

Is this something you are proud of? This website literally has a guy/girl that admitted to having sex with dogs that was not banned. Some things clearly get people banned on here - being a complete degenerate doesn't or you, Rein, and a whole host of others would have been booted a long time ago.

#45 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-03-19 01:50 AM | Reply

sockpuppet knows about the dog from 15+ years ago.

Why are you compelled to return so many times? I don't get it.

#46 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-19 01:54 AM | Reply

that poster's life must really suck.

#47 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-19 09:32 AM | Reply

SCOTTS

Joined 2025/03/17
Visited 2025/03/17

This moron posts as much stupid shht as JeffJ and BullBringer combined.

His user page is that of a sockpuppet unleashed.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-19 12:47 PM | Reply

I am still not entirely convinced that Biden was even aware of the pardons.

#41 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

I am not convinced you can think for yourself. Not even a little.

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-19 12:56 PM | Reply

"Given the DOJ found Biden too incompetent to stand trial,"

Except that is not a given and is not even remotely true. Just another Fixed News lie that you swallowed hook line and sinker.

To be declared "too incompetent to stand trial" there needs to be a hearing to determine that. The process involves a hearing and an examination by a court-appointed psychiatrist.

So can you provide any evidence that there was a hearing by a court appointed psychiatrist to officially determine Joe Biden's competence to stand trial?

No? Then you believed another Fox lie because you cannot think for yourself and you did not even bother check to see if what you are saying has any relationship to the truth.

#50 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-19 01:04 PM | Reply

Is the dog okay?

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-19 01:10 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy

Drudge Retort