Jurors only deliberated for a few hours after hearing prosecutors argue throughout the trial that [Hannah] Gutierrez-Reed, who oversaw the film's weaponry as its armourer, acted recklessly when loading the gun.
Michael Martin Murphey - Wildfire (1975)
www.youtube.com
Lyrics excerpt...
...
She comes down from Yellow Mountain
On a dark, flat land she rides
On a pony she named Wildfire
With a whirlwind by her side
On a cold Nebraska night
[Interlude]
[Verse 2]
Oh, they say she died one winter
When there came a killing frost
And the pony she named Wildfire
Busted down his stall
In a blizzard, she was lost
[Chorus]
She ran calling Wildfire
Calling Wildfire
Calling Wildfire
[Verse 3]
So by the dark of the moon, I planted
But there came an early snow
Been a hoot-owl howling outside my window now
'Bout six nights in a row
She's coming for me, I know
And on Wildfire we're both gonna go
...
"When you kill more people than my local gun range, it doesn't."
Now do ALL the gun ranges. Here's a Houston law firm that specializes in it:
www.injurylawyerhouston.com
"Way more shots there"
Not compared to worldwide guns and explosives used in the movie industry.
She didn't buy the ammo from a manufacturer. The "manufacturer" (Starline) stamped on the brass casing makes only the brass casing. Starline casings are commonly used by reloaders for live ammo, which apparently Hannah did not know, she thought Starline made movie prop ammo, which they don't.
Well from what I read in the evidence, perhaps replacing the "manufacture" with "a reloader". Regardless, she didn't do the reloading, she purchased it.
Dummy rounds, by definition, do not have a "projectile, or a primer or gunpowder.
This isn't what I have seen. I have seen them with the "projectile", "casing" but no gunpowder.
Set of three 7mm Winchester Short Magnum (7mm WSM) dummy rounds / snap caps / fake bullets ("projectile" might not be same material, but looks the same").
fakebullets.com
The idea I could imagine is if the camera is looking directly at the revolver you would see the "bullets".
#50 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7
Seems like there's lots of slop in descriptions around these weapons.
This dummy projectile and dummy propelling charge are inert and are used for training troops in handling ammunition and loading weapons.
www.bulletpicker.com
Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?
Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit.
www.atf.gov
Lots of slop in the terms used, perhaps that was the problem
__________
#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-07 01:35 PM
"How would labor unions look at that solution?"
- - - This was a non-union crew, so...
My comment about unions was clearly not regarding this particular movie set, but about general, industry-wide automation of some safety aspects, so...
But if this part of safety inspection protocol was automated / robo-tasked instead of left to a human, who was also possibly "under the influence" quite then the accident in question wouldn't or would be extremely unlikely to happen. But that's something for industry and/or labor unions (?) to decide, which is exactly what I was referring to - www.latimes.com - Rules on how prop guns are used on film sets are about to change after 'Rust' shooting. Here's why - October 11, 2022
- - - This was a non-union crew, so...
They'd probably say hire union labor if you don't want anyone killed on set.
I'm surprised how little has been made of the union side of all this.
Like, f--- that Alec Baldwin piece of s--- for working with scabs.
"Hire union labor" seems like a conditioned Pavlovian response for some, in absence of facts.
Having "that union label" doesn't prevent you from being inexperienced or incompetent:
www.latimes.com - It was supposed to be their big break. Now two 24-year-olds are at the center of the 'Rust' shooting investigation - LAT, 2021 Nov 20
There have been 3 "misfires" / accidental discharges of the gun on set in the week prior to the accident. Both armorer and prop master should have taken a note and be more serious about their jobs.
|------- Prop master Sarah Zachary... recalled her experiences on the set of Alec Baldwin's movie "Rust." Zachary recalled the moment when she accidentally set off a dummy round when a hammer fell on it, causing an accidental misfire on set. She also claimed that she was not trained to work with the prop guns or load them, despite being asked to perform some of the tasks of the armorer. -------|
It appears that the IATSE Local 44 union camera crew of 6 people had to be replaced at the last moment that morning because they suddenly decided to go on strike and walk off the job that fateful day, so... I don't know what camera crew had to do with safety or the accident, except for this particular union labor action creating quite a bit of chaos, anxiety and rush on the set.
The low-budget shoot was scheduled to last only 21 days / 3 weeks... and the union camera crew couldn't handle it... because they kept objecting to and complaining about their "long hours," "long commute" from hotel in Albuquerque instead of closer Santa Fe (40-45 minutes vs 25 minutes on I-25), COVID protocols restrictions (required by unions) and "serious lack of safety meetings on this set."
Bonanza Creek Ranch, where the movie was being filmed, is not some new or shabby location, it has been a popular filming location for more than 60 years, including "The Man From Laramie (1955)" with Jimmy Stewart and "Blazing Saddles," "The Ballad of Buster Scruggs," and several seasons of the "Longmire" TV series.
__________
__________
#62 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-03-08 01:50 AM
Legwork, please. The crew walked off the set because their safety concerns weren't being addressed.
When the camera crew walked off, they were not complaining about or justifying it as "safety"... at least not then, that came later. They walked off as they explained: "after filming began, the crews were told they instead would be required to make the 50-mile drive from Albuquerque each day, rather than stay overnight in nearby Santa Fe. That rankled crew members who worried that they might have an accident after spending 12 to 13 hours on the set."
www.motherjones.com - Stories of Terrible Conditions on "Rust" Set Were Emerging Even Before Fatal Shooting - Oct 22, 2021
|------- The events that prompted workers to walk off the set in New Mexico appear to have been detailed in a series of Facebook replies written before the shooting. A person who identified themselves as a member of the camera crew on Rust ... wrote a series of posts about how the crew was being treated like "Absolute dog s**t."
The posts were written in response to a video of Baldwin expressing his solidarity with Hollywood's blue-collar workforce, which is now deciding whether to ratify a labor agreement reached on Saturday between producers and the leaders of their union, the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees. "I want to say to the people in IATSE, do what you need to do," Baldwin said about the upcoming vote. "You don't like that contract? You think the contract could be better? You want to go on strike? Go on strike."
Under the video, the crew member, whose Facebook page identifies them as a member of IATSE Local 600, highlights conditions...:
|--- At the moment I'm fighting to get my crew, on this movie, hotel rooms when we go long or are too tired to drive the hour back from location to Albuquerque. They either say no or offer a garbage roadside motel that's used as a homeless shelter. In fact the line producer on the flick complained the motel she booked charges her 10 bucks more per night than the homeless. They haven't even paid the crew a proper check. ---|
-------|
www.democracynow.org - IATSE Film Crew on "Rust" Walked Off to Protest Conditions - Oct 26, 2021
|------- All this happened after some of the unionized IATSE below-the-line crew members had walked off the set of "Rust" earlier on the day of the shooting to protest their housing, payment and working conditions. ...
DUTCH MERRICK (past President of I.A.T.S.E. Local 44, director, gun safety instructor): ... From what I've heard, the armorer was not present during this sequence. My guess is, I understand - from what I understand, they were coming back from lunch. There may have been a rush for them to get back to rehearsing. I imagine it was a pretty jarring day, having much of the crew walk off and other people come in to replace them, so there was likely a bit of mayhem. ... -------|
___
Like I said in my previous post, other than "creating quite a bit of chaos, anxiety and rush on the set" (or as Dutch Merrick said, "a bit of mayhem" which may have been a contributory factor?), the union camera crew walkout (and their non-union replacements) had no other affect on set's safety conditions - which continued to be [very poorly] served by the same inexperienced, incompetent, unqualified IATSE-approved union personnel.
__________
Drudge Retort Headlines
Trump Appears to Fall Asleep (Again) in Court (37 comments)
CDC Issues Urgent New Warning Against Drinking Raw Milk (34 comments)
Trump Was Incredibly Bad At Presidenting (33 comments)
Joe Biden Will Double, Triple, and Quadruple Chinese Tariffs (32 comments)
Trump Pledges to Scrap Offshore Wind Projects on 'day One' (30 comments)
Speaker Johnson Shills for Trump Outside Courthouse Trial (22 comments)
'The State of Tennessee Took My Fertility from Me' (18 comments)
50 Families Throw $600M at Elections (17 comments)