Friday, June 06, 2025

Active Duty Transgender Soldiers Face Deadline to Self Identify Today

Thousands of transgender U.S. military members have until Friday, June 6, to identify themselves and begin a voluntary separation from the armed forces under a ban implemented by the Trump administration.

Posted by retort at 03:42 PM | 26 COMMENTS | permalink

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As transgender service members face a deadline to leave the U.S. military, hundreds are taking the financial bonus to depart voluntarily. But others say they will stay and fight.[image or embed]

-- NBC News (@nbcnews.com) Jun 6, 2025 at 1:15 PM

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I'm seeing people confuse transgender issues in the military with gay rights.

Let's be clear. They are not the same.

Gay rights concern sexual orientation, especially who someone is attracted to, emotionally or physically.

Transgender issues deal with gender identity, especially how someone defines their own gender, regardless of orientation. Unfortunately, this often clashes with how the straight world views gender and biology.

When the military makes policies affecting transgender individuals, that is not an attack on gays. It's a separate matter, with its own policies, controversies, and social dynamics.

We need to stop lumping everything under the LGBTQ+ umbrella as if it's one single cause. It's not.

Pretending it is invites backlash against all gay people who already fought hard just to be accepted.

#1 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 04:40 PM

We need to stop lumping everything under the LGBTQ+ umbrella as if it's one single cause. It's not.
Pretending it is invites backlash against all gay people who already fought hard just to be accepted.
#1 | Posted by BillJohnson

The common cause is exactly the thing you refuse to do for transgenders:
Accept them.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 04:44 PM

"When the military makes policies affecting transgender individuals, that is not an attack on gays."

Yes it is.
It's an attack on gays and straights and everything in between.
Because your whole argument here is gay and straight are things that people are, separate from being transgender.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 04:45 PM

TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

And YES, that DOES mean they're just the same as gay rights, the same as rights for people of color, the same as rights for ALL OF US.

We're not "lumping" them, they're inextricably "lumped".

The fascists WILL NOT divide us.

#4 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-06-06 05:00 PM

It's not an attack on gays. It's an attack on human rights. I stand for human rights, period. Fcnk Pete Hegseth, and fcnk Trump, and fcnk anyone who supports this

#5 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-06-06 05:08 PM

Trans rights are human rights.

Protect trans kids.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 05:09 PM

If they can't immediately identify them, then what's the problem?

#7 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-06-07 06:29 AM

Homosexuality is an orientation.

Transexualism is a fetish.

Homosexuals are not asking the government to finance their fetish. Homosexuals do not consider their reproductive organs a birth defect or a mistake of god or nature that needs to be fixed in order for them to be self-realized... actualized... or whatever.

Transgender thinking people do.

An annoying percentage of possibly well-meaning left-leaning people are in agreement with them... and only in nations wealthy enough to be bothered with the silliness of it.

No one owes a person cosmetic care for the rest of their life for something they consider a "birth defect" when their body was perfectly healthy to begin with. Healthy enough to get them enlisted.

They'll ridicule Christians for believing in the miracles of Jesus and embrace the cosmetics industry's ability to transform biology... as if... seriously... as if.

Welcome to the USA

Trumpanzee and Elon get up there with their face-lifts, botox etc etc etc and you bawl outloud about their pretentious phoniness and if a transman does the same with their cosmetic and phoney branding and they are the poor persecuted masses... give me a break.

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-07 07:22 AM

Active Duty Transgender Soldiers Face Deadline to Self Identify Today

Why do they have to self-identify? Don't troops have to undergo physical examinations before enlisting and routine physicals thereafter?

Seems like Trump is just setting the stage for dishonorable discharges for those who don't self-identify, thereby stripping them of all benefits. Also resulting in a severe hit for future civilian employment prospects.

Also, a rule of thumb is that if the person has lower genitalia protruding out larger than a thumb, they might be a man, baby!

#9 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-07 09:13 AM

I wouldn't self identify. Eff themselves.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-07 09:20 AM

Trumpanzee and Elon get up there with their face-lifts, botox etc etc etc and you bawl outloud about their pretentious phoniness and if a transman does the same with their cosmetic and phoney branding and they are the poor persecuted masses... give me a break.
#8 | Posted by RightisTrite

Dave Chappelle shares a thought: www.youtube.com

#11 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-07 09:23 AM

I wouldn't self identify. Eff themselves [myself].
#10 | Posted by LauraMohr

FTFY.

That would be in keeping with your "cut off my nose to spite my face" outlook on life (Jill Stein 2028!).

But many of those folks stand to lose benefits they accrued over the course of decades of work if they don't come forward, and to be blacklisted from all sorts of civilian employment in the future.

#12 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-07 09:27 AM

Are eunuchs allowed to serve?

Should eunuchs be allowed to serve?

Can eunuchs pass an enlistment physical?

I realize occasionally a casualty happens while serving...

#13 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-07 10:08 AM

"Homosexuals are not asking the government to finance their fetish."

Sure they are. The military health insurance pays for Viagra just the same, whether you're straight or gay.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-07 10:29 AM

"Homosexuals do not consider their reproductive organs a birth defect "

Plenty of straight women consider their reproductive organs a birth defect and have them surgically modified. Australia is #1 in the world for labiaplasty, presumably because of their beauty standards as expressed in legal pornographpy.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-07 10:31 AM

Homosexuality is an orientation.
Transexualism is a fetish.

Everything is a fetish. You just don't understand what a fetish is. If you're an ass man, or a tits man, I've got news for you.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-07 10:32 AM

"No one owes a person cosmetic care for the rest of their life for something they consider a "birth defect" when their body was perfectly healthy to begin with. Healthy enough to get them enlisted."

No one owes anyone anything, so you're just picking a very specific thing that isn't owed, like it's somehow different.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-07 10:34 AM

"Are eunuchs allowed to serve?
Should eunuchs be allowed to serve?
Can eunuchs pass an enlistment physical?"

I suppose it depends on whether they would need costly medical treatments on an ongoing basis.

#18 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-06-07 11:17 AM

I suppose it depends on whether they would need costly medical treatments on an ongoing basis.

Good point. Lewzer needs that money to build his fleet of F-55 Super Fighters and to retrofit Bribe Force One.

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-07 11:27 AM

"I suppose it depends on whether they would need costly medical treatments on an ongoing basis."

How costly? It costs $100-200K simply to recruit a soldier and put them through six weeks of basic.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-07 11:34 AM

You just don't understand what a fetish is. If you're an ass man, or a tits man, I've got news for you.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-07 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:PFFFTTTT

You lost this argument anyway... and with no fact-based way for you to win... I'll play along...

so... you think the government should pay... in perpetuity... for a man's AGP T&A fetish... because?

Does it pay for yours?

#21 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-07 12:00 PM

"When the military makes policies affecting transgender individuals, that is not an attack on gays."

Renaming the USNS Harvey Milk is not an attack on gays!

Deleting any references to the Enola Gay is not an attack of on gays!

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-07 01:12 PM

Wait... Enola was gay??

Donner, have you come out and I missed it?
Is anyone here not gay?

#23 | Posted by cabron_loco at 2025-06-07 02:25 PM

Hegseth guy is lightin' up my gaydar. Hair gel? Yeah, GAY.

#24 | Posted by cabron_loco at 2025-06-07 02:30 PM

The military health insurance pays for Viagra just the same, whether you're straight or gay.

#14 | Posted by snoofy

Snoofy are you gay or trans? or both?

#25 | Posted by cabron_loco at 2025-06-07 02:32 PM

Gay rights concern sexual orientation
#1 | Posted by BillJohnson

This has been debunked. Gay is ...well ...it's genetic

#26 | Posted by cabron_loco at 2025-06-07 02:37 PM

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