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3,300 Year Old Ship Discovered Off Israeli Coast
... the oldest ever found in deep waters Researchers say location of wreck, carrying hundreds of intact storage vessels, proves Late Bronze Age mariners could journey far out to sea
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"The discovery of the remains of the ship from the 14th-13th century BCE proves that Late Bronze Age mariners could navigate the seas without a line of sight to the shore, contrary to what was previously believed, the IAA said.
The approximately 3,300-year-old ship with a cargo of hundreds of intact amphorae was found 90 kilometers off northern Israel's coast, at a depth of 1.8 km.
"Only two other shipwrecks with cargo are known from the Late Bronze Age in the Mediterranean Sea ... both found off the Turkish coast. Yet both of those shipwrecks were found relatively close to shore," said Jacob Sharvit, head of the IAA marine unit.
"There is tremendous potential here for research. [This newly discovered] ship is preserved at such a great depth that time has frozen since the moment of disaster. Its body and contents have not been disturbed by the human hand, nor affected by waves and currents, which do impact shipwrecks in shallower waters," he said."
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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-26 01:53 PM | Reply
"proves that Late Bronze Age mariners could navigate the seas without a line of sight to the shore, contrary to what was previously believed"
Who believed that, because that sounds like "I couldn't do that, so they probably couldn't do it either."
#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-26 02:02 PM | Reply
Apparently they believed that because ships that age had only ever been found near shore.
So, I guess Donald Rumsfeld was right about what we don't know, lol.
#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-26 02:39 PM | Reply
"Some people are saying that they found Noah's Arch. Off the coast of Israel near Alaska. I don't know if I believe that. Because Two Corinthians didn't talk much about it. Anyway, my yacht is much more impressive, gold toilets and everything. Which makes me bigger than God." - Anonymous
#4 | Posted by censored at 2024-06-26 03:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 3
"Apparently they believed that because ships that age had only ever been found near shore."
Okay I gotta admit that makes some sense.
#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-26 03:02 PM | Reply
Interesting story, great find.
"The discovery of the remains of the ship from the 14th-13th century BCE proves that Late Bronze Age mariners could navigate the seas without a line of sight to the shore, contrary to what was previously believed ... ."
I'd question that statement. For example, the Minoans and others in the Mediterranean (general location of the find) used celestial navigation. The stars were up there, whether you gazed at them from land or sea.
Which takes nothing away from this discovery. And some courageous seafaring.
#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-06-26 03:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
"The earliest navigation methods involved observing landmarks or watching the direction of the sun and stars. Few ancient sailors ventured out into the open sea.
Instead, they sailed within sight of land in order to navigate. When that was impossible, ancient sailors watched constellations to mark their position.
The ancient Minoans, who lived on the Mediterranean island of Crete from 3000 to 1100 B.C.E, left records of using the stars to navigate, for instance."
education.nationalgeographic.org
Good call, Doc.
#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-26 05:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
At least the company alerted the Antiquities Authority. I'm sure a lot of this type of stuff discovered gets ignored due to the risk of it shutting down the operation.
#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-06-26 08:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
#8 Excellent point.
#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-06-27 05:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
I wouldn't call this proof that ancient mariners could sail out of sight of land. Simply because when these folks did, they sank...
The rarity of the find also strikes me as an effect of observation bias. It's much easier to scan the bottom of shallow seas than deep water. So we get higher resolution scans over a larger area of shallow seas when compared to deep waters. That makes it more likely to find shipwrecks in shallow water versus deep water.
#10 | Posted by s1l3ntc0y0t3 at 2024-06-27 02:05 PM | Reply
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