Undercover Journo Reports on France’s Anti-Israel Movement

My question has to do with what you said:

"The Israeli Way.

They are a terrible influence on the US.

We have assimilated their Deepest Values.

Moneylending, Murder,and Aggressive War."

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-01-18 12:17 PM

If you always tell the truth you never have to remember what you said.

Now, once again, what problem do you have with Americans getting loans in order to buy a car or a house?

Thanks.

#7 What in heaven's name have you got against "money lending."

Few Americans have the cash to buy a car, and especially a home (you know, the American dream).

So, they take out a loan.

So, what have you got against Americans wanting to own a home or a ca?

Doesn't make sense.

#8 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-01-18 12:26 PM

If you want to focus on that you can. It wasn't well thought out when I wrote it.

It's just what came to mind because Jews are Associated with Moneylending and Israel insists it represents the values of all Jews. Bibi has won many Elections on that very point.

Even Jesus had a problem with it.

If I Understand your point you are Accusing me of Antisemitism.

Are You?....Get in Line.

Banking is an necessary evil but yeah,I do have a problem with loans at interest actually. It's a Scummy Corrupt practice Condemned by all major Religions as Exploitative....until Finance became the undisputed Western Value.

And the backbone of the Economy.

Yer Up.

In Muslim countries Loans at interest are Haram, they are a Sin.

Banks lend but not at interest, they take a partial stake in a business if it succeeds they get a percentage of the profits,if it Fails they get the principle repaid but no interest.

The idea is that money is "Sterile" Money should not make money from just Existing as Leverage.

A Concept totally foreign to Americans.

Jews traditionally alone among the Abrahamic religions embraced moneylending at interest as Kosher.

Except to Other Jews. Then it's a Sin.

One Standard for everyone else and another for the Tribe.

In Christian tradition the ban was Universal. Also in Islam.

ELITIST.

#19 In Muslim countries Loans at interest are Haram, they are a Sin."

You are correct.

That's why I am left wondering why you are so against Americans taking out loans for cars and homes.

'Tis part and parcel of the American dream.

Money should not make money from just Existing as Leverage."

Ah, so now you're against Americans have a saving account.

Or buying CDs.

And Jesus' problem was moneylenders doing their business in a house of worship.

Unless you have some red-letter quote that says Jesus was against loans.

Thanks.

#18 | #19 "It's just what came to mind because Jews are Associated with Moneylending..."

Oh, I'm sure it came instantly to your mind.

Why, there's even a book all about that.

Are you on their mailing list/listserv?

Not Loans ,Loans at Interest.

Anyone is free to loan to anyone, it's their Money.

It's Expecting to Profit fron the loan.

It's Using Money itself to Extract interest for lending it.

I get that you don't agree but why are all major religions against Loans AT INTEREST?

Why is it considered to be Bad?

For one it fuels empty profiteering with no productive gains.

Arbitrage is a great example,hostile buyout using a company's own assets to leverage a loan to buy out the original owner and sell off the pieces.

Clearly Immoral,Clearly Legal and ENCOURAGED by the current monetary policies. Unheard of in Islamic Countries.

USURY,the loaning of money to Desperate people at exorbitant interest for Necessities.

Is a Crime in most Countries.

Charity not Usury is the proper way to Help the poor.

Is that a nineteenth century Forgery or Authentic?

Has that ever been determined?

I'm inclined to think it's Fake. Myself.

So,is it?

You knew a just where to find a copy.

Are you Antisemitic?

You are pushing dangerous literature online.

Somebody might want to look into that.

Be Careful.

#22 In which "Tribe"-free zone do you live, where money falls from trees and is free for everyone?

usury

/yooZH(')r"/

noun

the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.

Last car loan I had was at 0.99%/annum. Hardly anyone's idea of usury.

And I took the loan because my high-yield interest rate savings account was paying just above 4%

So I was saving money that way.

With my (now paid-off) mortgage, the interest rate charged was around 6% (if I remember correctly).

Just what was criminal about that?

...why are all major religions against Loans AT INTEREST?"

From where did you pull that?

Oh, and I think you are confusing Mafioso loan sharking for banks.

You're welcome.

#23 Doesn't matter if it was forgery or authentic.

Doesn't matter if it was fake.

It accomplished exactly what it intended to do: Create you.

You're welcome.

#23 Yeah.

I knew where to find a copy:

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

You forgot to mention that part.

Why is that?

I'm not Antisemitic. I know my own Heart.

I have never even seen a copy of that filth. I knew of it's existence but was never interested in trying to read it.

But You went right There. Unprompted.

The conversation wasn't remotely about that, it just came out of "nowhere".

Are You a Moneylender or A Banker?

Why are you so fixated on this one topic?

We started out talking about Israel.

They are behaving like Entitled Nazi Pigs.

That's why there's a Surge in "Antisemitism". Its not the Religion, its their CONDUCT.

I'm sorry if you misunderstand my true feelings. I genuinely believe people have a right to Exist.

ALL PEOPLE.

.. One feels for Nora Bussigny and history holds a lesson for her. Centuries ago, the Irishmen who owned land and worked with the English were never comfortable anywhere. In Ireland they were viewed as "English" and when they visited London they were viewed as "Irish." Oscar Wilde may have felt similar pangs as an Anglo-Irishman, but we can't be sure.
#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-01-18 09:28 AM

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."

Palestinians Too.

FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE.

Is that Statement" Antisemitic"?

If you think it is a YOU'RE THE BIGOT.

#27 Oh, your "heart," such as it is, is on display for all to see.

Oh, and I think thou doth protesth too much.

At least that's what my heart says.

You're entitled to your opinion.

You may even be justified in holding it.

I hope over time you will read more and reevaluate your opinion but if you don't I accept your Judgement, I don't always express myself clearly enough.

My Anger boils over and I Lash out online.

Our Government Backs and Funds Israel no matter what horrors they commit on a captive population of Paupers.

It's online in Print. There are Videos of Murders of Children, by Scum who play with their toys and dance in their Dead mother's underwear while laughing at them.

I have seen the Videos, they don't appear to be fake.

The leaders of Israel call Palestinians Amalek and call for Extermination. They are currently under indictment by the ICC for GENOCIDE and Ethnic Cleansing

They Claim GOD,gave them the land.

They have made me "Antisemitic" if I Am as you assert.

Not Some Moldy old Tome from the last century.

Israel claims to be For Jews and Jews Only.

It's Codified by Law.

Only Jews have Self Determination in Israel.

Bibi pushed for that Law and the Knesset happily Obliged.

Who are the Bad Guys?

Is it really hard to Understand why the world is revolted by what's happening in Israel?

Not to Me.

"We are all [of us] in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."

#28 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2026-01-18 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

And lifted from Oscar Wilde's Lady Windermere's Fan, sung by Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders.

Top five female voice supported by Martin Chambers' excellent percussion.

www.youtube.com

Chrissie Hynde was at Kent State University on 4 May 1970 when poorly-led soldiers of the Ohio National Guard opened fired on unarmed college students.

No one was ever punished for that massacre.

American Exceptionalism.

#27 "I'm not Antisemitic."

So says the author of this gem:

"It's just what came to mind because Jews are Associated with Moneylending..."

Clearly, some words and phrases mean more than other words and phrases.

Res ipsa loquitur

#27 Apparently, your heart ("I'm not Antisemitic. I know my own Heart.") and your mind ("It's just what came to mind because Jews...") are having a difficult time reconciling.

My condolences.

Are You Jewish?

The Paranoia is unmistakable.

The need to find hidden meanings where there is only inarticulate poorly expressed outrage, nothing is hidden.

Jews Are associated with moneylending, it's true, they are. History is clear about that. I didn't make it up.

Also, Well Poisoning and Drinking the Blood of Children. If you want to go full.... Out There...Those Lies are not Credible but given Israeli Conduct, Who knows for sure?

You will always be convinced I'm Evil because I wrote that, won't you?

I don't Care. My Concience is Clear.

Is Yours?

#36 Evil?

No, not at all.

I'm just too happy to use your own words to define you.

Since you seem so willing to provide them.

Yep.

Your heart ("I'm not Antisemitic. I know my own Heart.") and your mind ("It's just what came to mind because Jews...") and now your mind again ("Jews Are associated with moneylending...")...

...keep providing fresh material.

Thanks.

#36 "Are You Jewish?"

Feel the love for ALL PEOPLE

#36 "Are You Jewish?

"The Paranoia is unmistakable."

Effeteposer: Jews are paranoid, and it is unmistakable.

My, how not Antisemitic that is. /s

(Thanks again for providing more material. You're a champ.)

Effeteposer: It is Israel

Effeteposer: It is the Jews

Effeteposer: It is Israel

Effeteposer: It is the Jews

Effeteposer: It is Israel

Effeteposer: It is the Jews

I knew you were drawing me out all along.

I figured it out about the time you got fixated on loans.

A "Jewish Trope" you saw antisemitism in a comment without trying to understand anything more. Then pushed to see.

Are You a Jew? I think you are.

Is it satisfying to feel so Special even when it triggers violence from others and encourages Bigotry among your own?

Is the Tribe so Central to your Humanity?

Why DO do Many people hate Jews Anyway?

It crosses many faiths and cultures, why is it so Universal? Many European countries Banished them including England.

Perhaps the Elitist Exclusion?

The lack of Allegiance to countries they Reside in?

The Narrow Self Interest?

The Eagerness to Wage Aggressive War?

Non Zionist Jews are Great People. Contributing massively to everyone's well being throughout the World.

Zionists are Scum. EthnoBigots.

That's my real opinion.

You've Drawn my real Beliefs out.

Congratulations.

#41 "You've Drawn my real Beliefs out."

Drawing not necessary.

You willingly volunteer it.

#42 "Are You a Jew? I think you are."

I'm sure you do.

Such is your thinking, as it were.

Are you?

Am I Right, will you ever say?

Your refusal to answer is an answer.

So?

#43 "Non Zionist Jews are Great People."

How can you tell?

Are they uncircumcised?

Do you measure their noses?

Or can you just "look at them" and tell?

My, how not Antisemitic you are. /s

#44 Why should I feed into your paranoia?

#36 "Are You Jewish?

"The Paranoia is unmistakable."

#46 Why do you care?

"We are all [of us] in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."
#28 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2026-01-18 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag:
And lifted from Oscar Wilde's Lady Windermere's Fan, sung by Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders.
Top five female voice supported by Martin Chambers' excellent percussion.
www.youtube.com
Chrissie Hynde was at Kent State University on 4 May 1970 when poorly-led soldiers of the Ohio National Guard opened fired on unarmed college students.
No one was ever punished for that massacre.
#32 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-01-18 04:24 PM

:] Neil Tennant is educated and well-read, writing pop songs with wit often lifted from the shoulders of giants.

Pet Shop Boys - I Get Excited - they make a lot of songs that aren't on their albums, mostly b-sides like this one have the more political and queer cultural references.

We're both in the gutter, that's no surprise
What does it matter, when I look in your eyes?
We've lost all our money, we're thrown out of bars
We're lying in the gutter, but we're looking at the stars

I get excited, you get excited too
I get excited, you get excited too

I hear the sound of the subway, the sigh of the heat
The click of the visitors' heels on the street
The rattle of the taxi, the scream of the cars
The clatter of the dustbin and the beat of my heart

I get excited, you get excited too
I get excited, you get excited too

I don't know why, I don't know why
I don't know why, I don't know why

You're in my soul
My body moves to your control
Baby, I've been thinking about you
All night long, and the neighbours are talking

I don't know why, I don't know why
I don't know why, I don't know why

I get excited, you get excited too
I get excited, you get excited too

I don't know why, I don't know why
I don't know why, I don't know why

Dude,I Can't win, your mind is Sealed. You're convinced. There's nothing I can say at this point.

I'm open to actual dialogue, no games.

If I'm A Bigot, I don't want to be.

But I'm OUTRAGED, Israel gets a pass on Crimes even Hitler didn't Commit.
And Israel Claims to Speak for All Jews.

Money,Credibility, Arms as needed, Diplomatic Cover for Atrocities, the State of Israel is Openly and Proudly Exterminationist. Not even Hitler was that.

He at least Tried to hide it.

So what am I as a private person supposed to think?

I'm not the most Systemic thinker around.

I don't Do Ideology.

I see the world rather simply behind the long winded verbiage.

I bear you no enmity or even Distrust.

But my Rage is OVERWHELMING.

If People protest in America against Israel they are Automatically labelled Antisemitic or Terrorists. Lives are Destroyed, Careers Ended.

This creates more Rage.

I don't expect Understanding I don't expect Forgiveness, if it's warranted.

But I do see a conspiracy To SILENCE ALL DISSENT.

And I don't Understand Why?

#46 Again, why do you care?

#49 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2026-01-18 05:34 PM | Reply | Flag: Thanks RLR.

BTW: The Immortal Maestro threw in his brief homage to the Bard of Avon in the Ninth Symphony.

At 50:00 of Maestro Herbert von Karajan's orchestration you will hear it: www.youtube.com

There are other examples of Beethoven honoring Shakespeare, but this is the most noteworthy.

Endnote: The Grand Maestro referred to one of the greatest violinists in his era as "My Dear Falstaff" because apparently Ignaz Schuppanzighe was getting plump and kvetching about playing difficult scores, as well as climbing the stairs to Beethoven's flat.

You've Outed Yourself.

That Question tells me Everything I need to know.

I CARE BECAUSE I'M A HUMAN BEING FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.

People are being EXTERMINATED for Existing and being Inconvenient.

Tribalism has Trumped Humanity.

FUCK OFF. ZioTrash.

#50 I abhor what Bibi and his minions are doing in Gaza, the West Bank and, of late, Lebanon. He deserves his indictment in the ICC, and I hope he sees justice in this life.

I abhor what Trump and his minions are doing in Minnesota, Venezuela, and around this country and this world. He deserves to be indicted in the ICC, and I hope he sees justice in this life.

And, yet, you keep asking if I'm a Jew.

And I have asked, at least twice now, why you care.

I'm not sure what you're trying to "win," but if your rage is OVERWHELMING then I suggest more fiber in your diet and step away from any and all news. It is NOT doing you any good.

Especially as you display, over and over again, your clear antisemitic feelings and behaviors (good Jews and bad Jews, Jews are moneylenders, Israel, Jews, Israel, Jews... ad nauseum).

But knock yourself out, sweetheart.

An early coronary awaits.

It May. I may Deserve it.

If I misread the context of your last "Why do you care"? And I think I did, I Apologize for cursing you.

So how do I change, or is my "Antisemitism" incurable?

Any ideas?

I'm serious. No games.

I don't want to be an Irrational Hater if that's what I am.

You have been a good poster and I respect you.

I may be an Unconcious Antisemite.

Denying it to myself.

I thank you for forcing me to see it.

It's not something I want to Be.

I'll tell you a little secret.

I've been thinking about Reverting to Islam.

I'm deeply Confused on many levels and you are the first person I've been able to open up about this really.

Sad isn't it.

Peace my Brother.

- I may be an Unconscious Anti-Semite.

You may also be an Unconscious Russophile.

But if you've found A Friend to talk to, that's a start to healing.

#55 Thank you for that apology, Effete.

For me, I try to keep focused on what the leaders of a country are doing.

Which is why I specify Bibi and his minions in the exact same way I specify Trumpf and his minions.

I suspect that if you take any "just regular" person from Israel, or Norway, or Djibouti, or Venezuela, or Shanghai, or Dubai, or Sydney, or Dallas Texas, you would find, for the most part, that all they want is a home for their children, food on their table, a chance to better themselves, and peace.

What Bibi and his minions are doing in Gaza and the West Bank, is antithetical to that. And, like you, I hate it to my core.

Just as I hate to my core what Trumpf and his minions are doing here in America and around the world.

And, yes, the Americans who voted in 2024 (~ half of the half of those registered to vote, or ~25% of registered voters) voted for Trumpf. I framed it as the Dodds decision & January 6th versus anti-trans and misogynistic. Sadly, the anti-trans and misogynistic side won. Republicans did have that kind of campaigning in their favor. What has always p*ssed me off about the Democratic Party is that they have thought that their works for the American people was enough, no need to bang their chests about it. But, the American people NEED that kind of counter to the GOPyers.

So, that's where I am, at least on some of this. I don't know if that will help you on your journey, my friend, but it is offered in a sense of fairness and openness.

Thank you again. What you said in your #55 shows incredible bravery. Bravo.

I have told myself I'm an Atheist for years.

I know deep down this isn't so.

The World Is too much for me.

I'm in a Depression, I have lost all sense of meaning. The pain of the World feels real to me,more than ever in my life.

I've played a lot of stupid silly Games.

Pretended to be things I don't really feel or think.

I don't even really know how to be Authentic anymore.

One day at a time. Keep Hewing to the Actual. Appearances are deceiving.

I'm Grateful that this online Forum exists.

#57 Thank you for that kind comment, Corky.

#59 My friend, there are no magical words I, or anyone else, can say to help you with your Depression and loss of sense of meaning.

While it is no panacea, I read many different sources, including this Forum, for what I hope is a good view of what's happening.

I might suggest Electoral-Vote.com be added to your daily reading. The hosts are academics (one from California, the other from Denmark). They are often right-on-the-mark on so many of their posts. FYI, Saturdays are reserved for answering readers' questions, Sundays are for letters from readers, and Monday through Friday cover events of the day/week written by the hosts. On Fridays they have two great ending segments: This Week in Schadenfreude and This Week in Freudenfreude. It think you'll find their This Week in Freudenfreude especially uplifting.

Stay strong. You are very brave, my friend.

Happened to post this worldview of a quite successful writer earlier today; it might interest you:

drudge.com

Someone I know well has told me she is doing much better with anxiety and depression after a Dr changed her scrip to Lexpro:

www.google.com

Doctor can tell which type is best for you.