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#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-01-09 08:19 AM
If you get that number direct from a consultant companies API, it's algorithmic.
If a human consultant looks at a spreadsheet using the same formula and tells you a number, it's not algorithmic.
Oh, horrors, "algorithmic" spreadsheet automation! If government has the problem with "algorithms," what are government lawyers going to do about "AI"?
As I've said before, there is nothing here that cannot be done using data from Zillow, Redfin or many other public, private, corporate and other sources and basic spreadsheet. How do people "in the wild," without PMCs, compare housing / rental prices?
RealPage, and their numerous competitors, simply provide automated service (and related services, like tenant screening, billing, etc.) for something any landlord can already do by using Zillow or Redfin, Apartments.com, Homes.com, etc. and using average $/sqft, average rent prices in given area ('premium' / 'discount') and basic spreadsheet formulas.
This is yet another Elizabeth Warren's "stupid populist consumer protection trick" which is going to "protect" no one, but burnish her "cred" with financial/economic illiterates, and blame poor government policies and decisions on "gouging" and "greedy" corporations.
Let's hear the rest of the story, from the sane, non-political, market side:
www.ajc.com - Cortland settles with DOJ in RealPage rental price-fixing probe - AJC, 2025-01-08
|------- "In December, RealPage said the antitrust division told the company it had ended the criminal probe.
Cortland spokeswoman Rachel Prude confirmed in an email Tuesday that the company's employees were no longer under investigation.
"We believe we were only able to achieve this result because Cortland has invested years and significant internal resources into developing a proprietary revenue management software tool that does not rely on data from external, non-public sources," Prude wrote. "We look forward to putting the federal government's investigations behind us."
RealPage said it will "vigorously" defend against the claims.
"We are disappointed that the DOJ, just one month after abandoning its baseless criminal investigation and less than two weeks before the agency changes hands, is expanding its civil lawsuit related to use of revenue management software," RealPage said.
"Fewer than 10% of all rental housing units in the U.S. use RealPage software to suggest rental prices, and our software recommendations are accepted less than half the time, as the DOJ has acknowledged." ...
"This lawsuit will do nothing to make housing more affordable..."
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www.skadden.com - Scadden Arps:
|------- Courts are not required to accept the DOJ and FTC's arguments " and the courts that have considered them so far have not...
The use of algorithms to access and analyze vast amounts of information about market conditions, including competitor pricing, may in fact be profoundly pro-competitive, facilitating more informed, competitive pricing that better reflects supply and demand in the marketplace...
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this is why people hate lawyers.
Yep! And to "amend the complaint," this is why people hate politics and government [lawyers], who can bankrupt or force them into stupid "settlements," unless they are big enough to fight. That's why companies merge, buy out competitors - "go big or go home [bankrupt]".
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#50 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-01-28 09:06 AM
Sitzkrieg with the tinfoil hat
No tinfoil. Nancy P. (and some other Congress-critters) ability to trade on inside info is one of the reasons why NANC/"Nancy" outperformed the "market," even with the reporting lag, price averaging and mixed with other, less "informed" Congressional trades in the fund. One could probably do better just tracking Nancy P. and few others in leadership positions.
That's also the reason for so many calls to ban members of Congress from active trading... yet this can lead to them "whispering" the trades to managers of their "blind" accounts, so no visible trades = no tracking funds or ETFs like NANC or KRUZ.
So, double-edged sword.
#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-27 08:40 PM
... but how the Chinese seem to have leap-frogged US tech companies.
DeepSeek didn't leap-frog US companies in technology... but it's definitely shown we may have to rethink some "AI"-related economics, especially for non-critical/non-RT environments, like consumer-facing LLMs.
Some of this may actually be very good for AI development ("faster, cheaper, better") but not necessarily for all current vendors and suppliers to AI industry.
Since it's open-source, several companies (e.g., Aurora Mobile) already announced plans to incorporate R1 into their existing products or tech. Inference engine and other logic/calc parts may be developed/enhanced/speeded up through discrete ASICs, to move further along.
Far from perfect analogy, but they are looking to build, at least initially, [on] cheap BYDs, while many are stuck on Teslas.
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