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Monday, December 23, 2024

Incoming US president Donald Trump on Saturday slammed what he called unfair fees for US ships passing through the Panama Canal and threatened to demand control of the waterway be returned to Washington.

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"He continued that if Panama could not ensure "the secure, efficient and reliable operation" of the channel, "then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question."

Panama is the new House of Reps... they'll ignore his tantrums, too. And suffer about as much, which is not much at all.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-21 10:59 PM | Reply

Has Senior Co-President Elon approved this?

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-21 11:07 PM | Reply

IMFG He's off his rocker. He's totally bonkers to say the least.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-21 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

IMFG He's off his rocker. He's totally bonkers to say the least.

We're back to the "Monkey with a Machine Gun" administration.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-21 11:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Panama should do a reverse Noriega on the Fat ------.

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-12-22 01:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Esposito: From this day on, the official language of San Marcos will be Swedish. Silence! In addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half-hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside so we can check. Furthermore, all children under 16 years old are now... 16 years old!

Fielding Mellish: What's the Spanish word for straitjacket?
(Bananas, 1971)

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-12-22 06:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 4

Caligula constructed a bridge across the Bay of Naples.

Just saying.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-22 08:37 AM | Reply

The United States elected a man for the presidency who is profoundly unwell.

This is just the start of Donald's crazy behavior.

Someone is already, and literally, wiping this man's ass.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-22 08:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What will be Donald's response to the bird flu pandemic? Sending the 82nd Airborne to Panama.

Millions of Americans will die, and Donald will have gotten us into his first war.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-22 08:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Has Fat Smelvis made David Lee Roth the ambassador to Panama yet?

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-22 09:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

And the folks who elected him because he stayed out of foreign conflicts will cheer as Trump turns the US into the world's belligerent drunken uncle.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-23 09:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Teddy Roosevelt:
A man, a plan, a canal: Panama

Donald J. Trump:
Oozy rat in a sanitary zoo

#12 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-23 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

here's hoping that Jimmy Carter is still alive to see it.

#13 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-12-23 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Has Fat Smelvis made David Lee Roth the ambassador to Panama yet?

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebo

2nd time you've actually been funny today.

who's feeding you the posts ?

#14 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-12-23 11:57 AM | Reply

#14

AFKABL2

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-12-23 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And Greenland.
Yee haw.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-23 05:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.msn.com

Makes a lot of sense now

It's always about the corruption

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-23 07:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Corruption?

By whom panama?

Does any one know anything about the new fees?

No, given 17 posts of narrative BS.

Yet here are some facts ...

A quick Loadstar calculation found that an average vessel with around 12,500 teu would recoup some $500,000 in surcharges for the transit, while a 9,000 teu vessel would gain some $360,000.

One new ACP measure, which aims to discourage late cancellations and no-shows, issues a hefty surcharge, equivalent to 250% of the reservation fee, if the vessel does not arrive within seven days of the booked date.
theloadstar.com

Ridiculous even China is complaining.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-23 07:44 PM | Reply

I hear the Drake Passage is nice this time of year.

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-23 07:56 PM | Reply

1nut has promised to let us know when China threatens to invade Panama, too.

You know, when his non-analogy might make at least some semblance of sense.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-23 08:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

here's hoping that Jimmy Carter is still alive to see it.

#13 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

Wanting a man in hospice to get "owned" like the lib he is ...

And these s%^*heaps get all angry when called garbage people.

F%#^ you you pile of human flotsam.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-23 08:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I hear the Drake Passage is nice this time of year.

I got nothing but good memories :)

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-23 10:04 PM | Reply

"Does any one know anything about the new fees?"

This is just more Trumpy nonsense designed to deflect.

Are you suddenly having problems with capitalism? The canal is a product. Supply and demand determines the value of the product.

If you don't want to pay the fees then don't use the canal. Or negotiate for lower prices.

Canada manipulates maple syrup prices. That is not a reason to invade them and make them the 51st state.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-24 02:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump is a man of peace.

But even he can only tolerate so much provocation from [checks notes] Panama, Canada and our longtime enemy, Greenland.

You're next, Liechtenstein!

#24 | Posted by cbob at 2024-12-24 07:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Canada manipulates maple syrup prices.

Just part of our plan to annex Vermont.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-24 07:08 PM | Reply

Next will be those trouble makers from the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.

#26 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-12-24 08:01 PM | Reply

" Next will be those trouble makers from the Duchy of Grand Fenwick."

Don't overlook East Eurasia!

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-12-24 09:38 PM | Reply

Sorry: Eastasia.

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-12-24 09:40 PM | Reply

__________
Trump Threatens to Retake the Panama Canal

Looks like Trump possibly wants to apply pressure and make a "deal" to escape another one of his fraudulent / Russian money laundering "business" entanglements in his "licensed name" hotels - tax evasion and outright business fraud case re Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower in Panama, which has been sitting in NY Court for Southern District:

www.newsweek.com - Trump Organization Accused of Tax Evasion in Panama - Dec. 23, 2024

www.reuters.com - Ivanka and the fugitive from Panama | USA-TRUMP/PANAMA - Reuters, Nov 17, 2017

www.nbcnews.com - A Panama tower carries Trump's name and ties to organized crime - NBC, Nov 17, 2017

|------- ... No one asked about the money
In the interview, Ventura admitted that some of his brokers and clients who bought and sold units in the Trump Ocean Club were connected to the Russian mafia and other organized-crime groups, including a convicted money launderer who moved cash for drug cartels.

"I had some customers with questionable backgrounds," he said. "Nobody ever asked me. Banks never asked. Developer didn't ask and (the) Trump Organization didn't ask. Nobody ask, 'Who are the customers, where did the money come from?' No, nobody ask."

The Trump Organization was not the actual developer of the Panama tower. Thanks in large part to the hit NBC television show "The Apprentice," the Trump name was recognized all over the world and the Panama deal was structured to capitalize on that brand. For this deal, the Trump Organization would license its brand, operate the hotel and sell its expertise in managing the building, receiving a cut of every condo sale.

... Panama offered Donald Trump a new way to make money at a time when his businesses were struggling. (The Trump casino empire filed for bankruptcy in 2004.)

... In the mid-2000s Panama was known as a money laundering hotspot. At that time the Trump companies were in dire trouble. He changed his business model to license his name and his brand to other people's developments, and very often they would be inexperienced developers, low-profile people who needed a name to sell their developments. So Trump would go into a licensing deal, which meant he invested nothing, but could make a profit from it."

Ventura says about half of the units he sold at the Trump Ocean Club were to Russians. ...

Ceballos, who says he investigated transactions related to the Trump Ocean Club during his stint as an anti-corruption prosecutor in Panama, describes the building as a magnet for international organized crime, particularly from Russia. ...
-------|

Art of the deal, baby! Art of the Trump deal! "Because when you are a star, they let you do it!"
__________

#29 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-12-25 05:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eastasia.
#28 | Posted by Danforth

well, we have always been at war with Eastasia.

#30 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-12-25 09:39 AM | Reply

Why has this fool decided to screw with Panama?

Trump Organization Accused of Tax Evasion in Panama: What We Know

#31 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-12-25 12:27 PM | Reply

Man has more balls than this estrogen filled hen house. Janauary 20th can't get here quick enough.

Merry Christmas.

#32 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-12-25 06:02 PM | Reply

@#29 ... Looks like Trump possibly wants to apply pressure and make a "deal" to escape another one of his fraudulent / Russian money laundering "business" entanglements in his "licensed name" hotels - tax evasion and outright business fraud case re Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower in Panama, which has been sitting in NY Court for Southern District: ...

thx for your usual informative comment.

So, yeah, it does look like Pres-elect Trump, et al, may have some legal issue with Panama, and this threat is how he hopes to resolve them

#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-25 06:08 PM | Reply

More balls than brains, that's for sure.

One of these days Trumpers are going to be like ex-W voters; nowhere to be found. Left the planet. Evaporated into thin air.

"Who me? No, I never voted for that clown!"

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-25 06:09 PM | Reply

@#34

I'm not yet convinced of that.

MAGA s too much of a cult for that to happen anytime soon.

#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-25 06:35 PM | Reply

Man has more balls than this estrogen filled hen house. Janauary 20th can't get here quick enough.

Merry Christmas.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-12-25 06:02 PM | Reply

That's a laugh and a half.

#36 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-25 07:16 PM | Reply

" One of these days Trumpers are going to be like ex-W voters; nowhere to be found. Left the planet. Evaporated into thin air."

as soon as trump is a lame duck.

#37 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-25 07:53 PM | Reply

37 comments... nice...

#38 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-25 08:03 PM | Reply

@#38 ... 37 comments... nice... ...

Yeah.

Pres-elect Trump seemed to want to put himself into the news coverage over the Holidays, his usual craving for attention.

Yet, what he seems to have done instead is call attention to the Trump-based activities in Panama (see #29).

And not call attention to them in A Good Way.

A faux pas?

Time will tell.

But until then, it is starting to look like Pres-elect Trump using the power of the Presidency for his own personal financial purposes.

Can you say "bully?"

I knew you could.



#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-25 08:13 PM | Reply

#29 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-12-25 05:37 AM
BINGO.
With Trump, it is ALWAYS about grifting, crime, or revenge /coverup to hide the grifting and crime.

And in Panama, it is answer D; All of the above.

#40 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-12-26 08:53 AM | Reply

Man has more balls than this estrogen filled hen house. January 20th can't get here quick enough.
#32 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-12-25 06:02 PM | Reply | Flag

If by "balls," you mean his usual lying and BS and deflection to coverup his own crimes, then YES.
I never met a non-criminal who claimed that criminal activity and lying was "balls." I'm thinking you are simpatico to this because either overtly or covertly, this too is you.

#41 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-12-26 08:57 AM | Reply

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