Getting rid of birthright citizenship is just the first step to disenfranchising millions of American citizens.

The Republicans will demand that Americans produce documentation that their parents were citizens in order to be able to vote.

That's not how self defense works. You have to be under immediate threat of grave bodily harm or death to use lethal force. Crazy ramblings don't qualify for that requirement.

You're making some leaps there. Chokehold is lethal force? According to the DOJ as of three years ago it is. And an increasing number of communities are defining it as such under policy for cops in the last few years.

But Penny isn't a cop. And chokeholds are used routinely to incapacitate those who present non-deadly threats in self-defense. Penny wasn't obligated to enter into a boxing match with random nutter threatening him with injury.

He took a risk by intervening physically and lost that gamble. He should suffer consequences for that. Were it not for white grievance, there probably wouldn't be a question.
#19 | Posted by jpw
Yeah, White grievance. Like the old woman Neely clocked in the face, breaking her nose and skull. With some people, everyone is a victim as long as they're the correct color.

That's a lot of words ...

Donald has already announced that he will handle the situation by doing nothing. Except perhaps console Putin.
Get ready for a whole lot more of nothing from him.
#3 | Posted by Zed

Honestly, that may not be a horrible strategy for now (other than the giving oral-pleasure to Poohty part).

Hopefully he keeps protecting the Kurds, as we have been, and killing ISIS. As for the rest, let the people of Syria develop their own government as they see fit and bomb the H out of anyone who presents a threat to us or our allies. Seems like the best least-worst option to me.

It's nice to think that a tyrant can still be deposed and killed.
People like Assad are disturbingly common.
#1 | Posted by Zed

Especially in that part of the world.

>Too bad that old woman whose jaw and orbital bone Neely broke can't sue Jordan Neely's family for her suffering.

Who's fault is that?
#16 | Posted by REDIAL

We did not have to kill that guy to subdue him. Neither did Daniel Penny.
#10 | Posted by donnerboy

Like I said in #5, yeah, probably.

I guess we'll find out how the jury feels about it in a few days.

And then Penny can look forward to the civil lawsuits from all those folks who have come crawling out of the woodwork now that Jordan Neely is dead.

A homeless convicted felon with years of mental health issues was released from prison a few weeks ago, bought a ghost gun, and shot two little boys at a Christian school in California to avenge people dying in Gaza. Why was he allowed out?
Posted by lee_the_agent

Why do you hate our freedom?

But after he was subdued it should have stopped there and he should have been held until authorities arrived.
Yeah, probably. But you get people worked up about the safety of themselves or others and the adrenaline gets a pumping and sheet happens.

And as it turns out he only had a muffin in his pocket.
#4 | Posted by donnerboy
And I thought he was just happy to see me! In any event, he broke that old woman's nose without even a pair of brass muffins.

All of this brings to mind an old saying:
"Don't start none and there won't be none"
-Mother Teresa

It should have been at least negligent homicide.
The jury considers negligent homicide on Monday. For some reason, they had to consider manslaughter first.

He obviously did not kill that man in self defense. So it's now open season on weird people on the New York subways?
More than weird.

Penny's attorneys argued that the former Marine was justified in putting Neely in a chokehold because witnesses say he told passengers, "Somebody's going to die today," and that he was ready to go to jail.

Ok! Ya'll have fun with that. It should make for some really awesome tik toks.
#2 | Posted by donnerboy
I blame society for eliminating the Bumfights videos. A terrible loss to society.

Crazed homeless dude who beats elderly woman and threatened trainload of passengers effed around and found out. News at 11.

My guess is that there was at least one subway rider on that jury that had enough with criminal-coddling BS.

#4. And you think that wasn't done to help the Democratic party?
#6 | Posted by fishpaw

"Democracy is partisan!"
-MAGAts

I guess American problems require American solutions.

I'm sure Elmo did it for altruistic reasons.

That's about what Zuckerberg spent on 2020 to help Democrats.
#2 | Posted by BellRinger

You just repeat whatever Fox/Rupert Murdoch whisper into your ear, don't you?

Not crying for anesthesiologists. When I had my cataract surgery one came in, asked a question about my airway, waved a stethoscope over my chest and charged me 750 dollars. The actual anesthesia (light sedation) was monitored by a CNA and they charged 1200 dollars.
Both were out of network, which I had no control over since the surgeon picks where the procedure is done.
#6 | Posted by mattm

What motivates someone to kill a murderous parasite responsible for a minimum tens of thousands of deaths?
An important clue might be what the shooter left for us to analyze - deny depose defend.
#81 | Posted by redlightrobot

Sounds as if he likes the "D."

A classic Red Herring which pervades even the trusty threads of the old DR, as Trumpers can't actually talk about things like who's being picked to ruin, er, run the government.
#14 | Posted by Corky

Elections are about motivating your voters and demotivating opposition voters.

On trans, a 2.7% shift in the race from a single commercial is HUGE. It riled the GOP base up and got them to go to the polls, or convinced Dem-leaning voters to stay at home or vote third party. The fact that Dems still haven't figured out how to deal with it despite years to prepare does not bode well for their future electoral prospects.

And the immigration issue is real, no matter how much Dems wanted to deny it. That's why Arizona wasn't even close this go-round.

I dunno. It's a bad sign of how volatile our society is right now that a man's brazen day time murder is garnering widespread cheers and jokes. I always thought the tipping point of the have nots would come slowly, but it seems to be barreling down on us at a rapidity accelerating pace ...
#5 | Posted by jpw

Yeah, concerning in particular that it appears to be doctors making these jokes.

I have to wonder, though, how many people this CEO killed to turn a [bigger] profit.

Of course, these doctors also made money by performing services, so how much of their anger arises from missing out on some extra cash when the claims were denied?

The top comment, which received hundreds of supporting upvotes from other users, mocked UHC's notorious track record for refusing to pay out insurance claims and is written as a lengthy, spoof rejection letter from the company.

Addressed to an unnamed applicant"following "a careful review of the claim submitted for emergency services on December 4, 2024"it informs them they are being rejected for coverage because "you failed to obtain prior authorization before seeking care for the gunshot wound to your chest."

"If you would like to appeal the fatal gunshot, please call 1-800-555-1234 with case # 123456789P to initiate a peer to peer within 48 hours of the fatal gun shot," wrote one user.

Another paraphrased the early 20th Century trade union lawyer Clarence Darrow: I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."

Dozens and dozens more expressed similar sentiment.

United Healthcare denies more than 30 percent of their claims. This kinda feels like a pitchfork situation to me.
...And once again, it makes a case for some kind of universal healthcare.
#34 | Posted by Whatsleft

That information in pretty picture format:

Happy to see Russia fail, but this is gonna be such a mess.

No good guys here, but at least Assad is secular-ish. No telling what the rebels, who are mostly (but not all) Islamist religious nutters, will unleash.

Another interesting point from the Daily Beast article:

He looked back too, at the eventual failure of the Oslo Accords and the Middle East peace process he attempted.

He spoke in dismay at what Palestine leader Yasser Arafat walked away from in the 1990s: control of 96 percent of the West Bank, 4 percent of Israel to make up for the 4 percent settlers had taken of Palestine at that point, a capital in East Jerusalem, and borders in keeping with the 1967 War.

"I'm an old guy. I have my regrets " that's one of them."

Lots of interesting stuff in there. Will the Dems listen? Probably not. From another article discussing Bill C's take: