Here's hoping the family separation is limited to magat scum

He will attack birthright citizenship on the basis of not allowing an invader to claim it. That is what all the invasion rhetoric is for

And there is a good chance the SC will agree

Btw reminder that every person is entitled to due process before deportation.

How that can be achieved for millions of people is a mystery

Unless you disregard the constitution

Trump on Meet the Press today said he doesn't want to break up families.

He wants to eliminate birthright citizenship and in order to avoid breaking up families the children should stay with parents who are deported.

He did talk about the terrible circumstances of this situation but, he said, "something must be done".

Must uphold the law.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

This whole deportation madness shows his utter contempt for the constitution-you know "the law"

Here are the applicable laws

No person shall {SNIP} be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Emphasis on PERSON

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Every single PERSON is entitled to due process of law. How is that going to be achieved for the 15-20 Million he wants to deport?

A child born in this country is ENTITLED to every single protection of the law and every time ------- deports a child born in America HE is breaking the law.

There are a plethora of legal reasons to be in this country how is ------- going to assure that the people deported are not here legally. Ex. He considers the Springfield Haitians to be here illegally and presumably he will deport them-again breaking the law

I get it, facts are not your friends.

You tied your future to a monster, Enjoy the ----

Bill, keep in mind the unforeseen yet TOTALLY predictable consequences of -------- deportation madness.

What do most of the undocumented immigrants do with their pay? They send it home to impoverished countries.

Many of those impoverished countries rely on this money to prop up their economies.

So, what predictable consequence will occur?

Those impoverished countries will be further destabilized further incentivizing their citizens to travel to America for work. Or perhaps you can explain how this deportation plan will disincentivize undocumented immigrants from coming for work.

This is all basic capitalism, you know.

Kamala was vastly over her head so you got Trump.

Next time run a good candidate.

#21 | Posted by BillJohnson

VP Harris is a normal human being.

------- is a rapist.

The choice was clear.

You chose a rapist.

---- you magat scum

Truth,

If you read my posts I said it was pointed out to him birthright was in the Constitution.

His response was simply something "must be done".

He said he will work with democrats...etc...

But this problem of illegal people coming into the country must be stopped.

He also stressed his first act will be deporting criminals.

She tried to nail him down on the rest of his plan but he said he won't say anything else.

Anyone with a brain knows this can't continue as it is now.

#40 | Posted by BillJohnson

"something" must be done. Seems like the central point of his political carreer for 10 years he would have some details on the something.

He doesn't cause he is an idiot.

Not sure why it has to be stopped, I hear a lot of head on fire stuff. I hear a lot of demonization of brown people, I hear exaggerations and out right lies about the negative impacts of their presence but I also see the vast majority of "undocumented" come here to work.

Seems like the solution is to give all of them temporary work visas and get on with life.

As has been pointed out ad infinitum our economy is founded on these low wage workers.

Since it is so simple, explain factually why it can't continue.

Here are some facts

Undocumented immigrants commit far fewer crimes (they are incentivized to NOT commit crimes)

Our country is at near full employment

Undocumented immigrants perform very hard labor for very low wages with no worker protections

Undocumented immigrants simply are not smuggling in fentanyl

Our country already prioritizes criminals for deportation

Again, explain it to me like I'm dumb.

What exactly is the urgency of this problem?

I will say as a given, the situation CAN be improved but not through deportation

Alex,

I saw you try to make that same point in another thread.

ummm...did you forget about COVID already?

It sort of threw the world into chaos.

#45 | Posted by BillJohnson

LOLOLOL

Yet biden is responsible for inflation.

Magat scum are dumb.

Do you have examples of said rights violating?

Define "illegals"

Do I believe that an undocumented person suffering a medical emergency should receive medical care? Yes and any other position is morally repugnant.

Do I believe all children are entitled to an education? Yes and any other position is morally repugnant.

You are mistaken on the definition of Single-Family Home, that, legally speaking, refers to the style of the house (as opposed to a duplex or townhouse, etc.) it does NOT refer to multiple families living in said home. To my knowledge, there isn't a limit on the occupants of a home (though there might be one for health reasons)

Breaking a lease is not a criminal matter it is a civil matter that impacts government actions to a minimal extent, thus irrelevant.

I do not believe there is necessarily a causal relationship between crime and overcrowding, there may be a correlation, but no causation. Facts-undocumented immigrants commit fewer crimes (the incentive to NOT commit crimes is self evident).

No, health care laws/policies and zoning need not be tightened. I would agree that there is room for improvement here, like building more affordable housing.

Thank you for the rational response, though I obviously disagree with your points.

Jpw,

Democrats are certainly no stranger to violating Constitutional rights.

#55 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-12-09 10:04 AM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)

Do you have examples of said rights violating?

#56 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-09 10:08 AM | Reply | Flag:
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Truth,

No thank you. I have better things to do than go down a rabbit hole.

#57 | Posted by BillJohnson

Dan,

"What?!? BillJohnson made a bogus claim, and refused to
produce evidence when challenged???"

I think you have it wrong.

You said my opinion is bogus so the onus is on you to prove I'm wrong.

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Ummm how on earth is anyone able to disprove "Democrats are certainly no stranger to violating Constitutional rights."

Since that is nonsense. I asked for specifics that you refuse to provide.

the onus is on you to defend your nonsensical opinion.

But you won't because you can't, because a. you lack supporting facts and b. you lack the mental ability to make a cogent argument.

Democrats decry " while Republicans welcome " end of affirmative action in college admissions
gazette.com

A divided Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that the use of affirmative action in admissions programs at two universities was unconstitutional.
constitutioncenter.org

Its so

#82 | Posted by oneironau

Tell me you don't understand the Equal Protection clause without saying you don't understand the Equal Protection clause.

Tell me again how the white heterosexual Christian male is the actual discriminated against party in America.

Racism is dead?

Since the Supreme Court's June 2023 ruling that barred race-conscious admissions at universities, the share of Black students enrolled at many colleges has decreased:

Columbia
The share of Black students dropped from 20% to 12%.

Amherst College
The share of Black students dropped from 11% to 3%.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
The share of Black students dropped from 15% to 5%.
Other schools that have seen a decrease in Black enrollment include: Harvard University and The University of Virginia.

African Americans suddenly became incapable of performing at the highest levels, like overnight?

Yep, racism is dead.