Friday, May 03, 2024

Ron DeSantis Bans Lab-Grown Meat

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has banned lab-grown meat, saying he will "save our beef" from the "global elite" and its "authoritarian plans".

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What are these lunatics gonna find to cry about next?

#1 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-05-02 11:08 PM

Don't worry, they have plenty of ------- to worry about in Dixie.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-03 12:21 AM

Seems like just about every weekday, Bootsie has another loudmouth flare-up for the media fueled by the frustration of the glaringly hilarious irrelevance of his great and crushed ambition, of being just another GOPer lewzer. Come on, Casey, do us all a favor and soothe this small manboy's furrowed, fevered brow.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-03 05:45 AM

I would have said that Ron is an example of lab-grown meat.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2024-05-03 10:39 AM

DeSantis loves to control businesses and people while claiming he's pro-freedom. Here he's not only killing a new industry that could have become an important and lucrative one in the state, he's also scaring off other startups that won't want to risk operating in a state where the governor can kill their entire industry on a whim.

#5 | Posted by rcade at 2024-05-03 12:58 PM

R's are hate open markets... they wield power to protect a state and the donors.

#6 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-05-03 02:43 PM

It's just like JeffJ warned us.
More anti-business regulation from Biden and Obama.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-03 02:51 PM

R's are hate open markets... they wield power to protect a state and the donors.

#6 | POSTED BY BRENNNN

Who knew that the invisible hand of the market wears go-go boots?

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-03 02:56 PM

No ban for toxic red-40 dye or countless other toxic food additives, but ban lab meat.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-05-03 03:28 PM

He had to ban it because Connie's are simply to stupid to not eat something they don't like? These idiots aren't about freedom. They're simply about selective outrage.

#10 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-05-03 03:36 PM

After all, DeSantis can't be seen as allowing something which has the potential to help the environment get a foothold in Florida.

OCU

#11 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-05-03 04:48 PM

I disagree with DeSantis on this. If the product is safe, institute a regulation that it must be clearly. Labeled and then let the consumer decide.

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-03 05:11 PM

---- lab grown meat.

End of thread.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-03 05:13 PM

Lab grown meat doesn't cause suffering and death?! Ban it! --Ron DeSantis

#14 | Posted by MBlue at 2024-05-03 05:14 PM

I'll stick to the old fashioned meat source. Thank You very much.

#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-03 05:14 PM

This sci-fi experiment is how humanity ends.

Don't want to eat meat. Don't.

Why is it necessary to create so many meat substitutes?

Is it because you want to eat meat?

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-03 05:16 PM

The full press release is even crazier sounding than the BBC:

"Today, Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs to achieve their authoritarian goals, ...Our administration will continue to focus on investing in our local farmers and ranchers, and we will save our beef." - Ron "moonboots" DeSantis.

Ag Commissioner Wilton Simpson added "We must protect our incredible farmers and the integrity of American agriculture,... Lab-grown meat is a disgraceful attempt to undermine our proud traditions and prosperity and is in direct opposition to authentic agriculture."

Disgraceful! Underhanded! Covert! Not AUTHENTIC! The hyperventilating of right-wingers is so past being able to be parodied.

Cultivated meat has all those other nasty side-effects - like being "free of disease-causing bacteria like E.coli, relatively low in cholesterol and fat-free, and it doesn't contribute to greenhouse gasses."

The horror.

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2024-05-03 05:35 PM

I agree with Laura Mohr. I'll stick to the real stuff.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-03 07:21 PM

Is the market for lab grown meat the same folks who won't eat GMO corn? I really don't understand who wants this.

#19 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-05-03 08:45 PM

Seems more efficient and infinitely less cruel to clone meat, than have animals breed just to be killed.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-03 08:49 PM

Life is cruel.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-03 08:56 PM

@#18 ... I'll stick to the real stuff. ...

... and that is your choice.

But why does Gov DeSantis work to eliminate the ability of his constituents to make that same choice?

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-03 08:56 PM

I'd be willing to bet some of the people complaining here are the ones who won't touch a vegetable unless its organic, but get their ass chapped because they cant buy chemically grown laboratory meay from a test tube.

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-03 10:00 PM

@#23 ... I'd be willing to bet some of the people complaining here are the ones who won't touch a vegetable unless its organic ...

And, the point of your current alias is...?

It seems that your current alias agrees that people should have a choice to select healthy foods.

So, where's the complaint?

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-03 10:12 PM

Beyond Meat is tasty, but I don't kid myself into thinking it's healthier than well sourced organic meat. I think Beyond is better than Impossible on many levels, but I still limit my intake. I prefer organic chicken and turkey for protein sources when it comes to meat, or ocean fish.

I do think it's funny people get all "oh it's processed! Look at the ingredients!"

There was a great tweet by Rachel Konrad on this.

Ground Beef: Ingredients:
Water (63%), Triglycerides (19%) (Oleic Acid (7%), Palmitic Acid (5%), Stearic Acid (3%), Palmitoleic Acid (1%), Myristic Acid (less than 1%), Trans-Fatty Acid (less than 1%), Linoleic Acid (less than 0.5%), Margaric Acid (less than 0.5%)), Pentadecanoic Acid (less than 1%), Conjugated, Linoleic Acid (less than 1%), Margaroleic Acids (less than 1%). Protein (17.6%) (Alanine (1%), Arginine (1%), Aspartic Acid (2 %), Gluatamic Acid (3%), Glycine (1%), Histidine (1%), Isoleucine (1%), Leucine (2%), Lysine (2%), Methionine (less than 1%), Phenylalanine (less than 1%). Proline (1%), Serine (less than 1%), Tyrosine (less than 1%), Valine (less than 1%)). Less Than 2%. Acetic Acid, Ash, Heme, Glucose, Ribose, Glycerol, Fructose, Taurine, Creatine, E306 (Tocopherol), E260 (Acetic Acid), E160A (Beta Carotene), E101 (Riboflavin), Histamine, Cadaverine, Putrescine, Cholecalciferol (Vit D), Thiamine, Cyanocobalamin (Vit B12), Folate, Niacin, Patothenic Acid, Vitamin B6, Aluminum, Calcium, Cobalt, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Sodium, Titanium, Zinc. Flavors: 2,5-Dimethyl-Pyrazine, Acetoin, 2,3- Butanedione, 1-Hydroxy-E-Propanone, Hexanal, Benzeneacetamide, 1-Pentanol, 1-Octen-3-Ol, 2,3-Pentanedione, 1-Hexanol, E,E-2,4 Decedienal, Methional, Pentanal, (E)-2-Decenal, Butyrolactone, 4-Penten-2-Ol, Tetradecanoic Acid, Tetradecanoic Acid, 4-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2 Pentanone, 5-Methyl-5-Hexen-2-One, Formamide, 2,4-Di-Tert-Butylphenol, Fufural, Alpha-Actin, Myosin-2, Fructose- bisphosphate aldolase A, Serum albumin precursor, myosin-7, Creatine kinase M, Cytoplasmic-actin, Myosin-8, Beta-enolase, Myosin-4, Carbonic anhydrase, Myoglobin, Glyceraldehyde-3-phosphate dehydrogenase, Myosin-6, Pyruvate kinase, Myosin light chain, myosin-3, L-lactate dehydrogenase, Myosin regulatory light chain, Triosephosphate isomerase.

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Yum. At least it came from one of those "proud heritage" "authentic agriculture" cattle ranches - or did it?
Chances are it came from a feedyard...

#25 | Posted by YAV at 2024-05-03 10:19 PM

Beef has learned to do something useful in its captivity.

-- FL Ag Commissioner

#26 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-05-04 12:58 AM

@#25 ... Beyond Meat is tasty, ...

It seems to rely too much upon salt to attain that "tastiness" in my view.

Beyond Meat says its burgers are healthier than beef. Health experts aren't so sure (2019)
www.cbc.ca

... "Where is their research saying that " that this is better than eating a small, portion-controlled, lean piece of meat?" said Toronto-based dietitian and nutritionist Rosie Schwartz.

The Beyond Burger contains close to 20 ingredients, including refined coconut oil, pea protein isolate and flavouring. Schwartz says that qualifies it as a highly processed food ...

A Beyond patty contains 270 calories, five grams of saturated fat and 390 milligrams of sodium ...

[emphasis mine]

How much salt is added to beef patties to achieve "tastiness?"?

So the main advantage seems to be that it is "not meat?"



#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-04 01:32 AM

Yes. The main advantage is that it's not meat. I was introduced to it by someone that believes raising cattle is way too inefficient and consumes way too many resources for the protein/nutrition output. It's not part of my regular diet, but it is something I do enjoy from time to time and I won't hesitate to eat it over impossible burgers.

As I said "...I don't kid myself into thinking it's healthier than well sourced organic meat. I think Beyond is better than Impossible on many levels, but I still limit my intake. I prefer organic chicken and turkey for protein sources when it comes to meat, or ocean fish."

Sat fat for 85% lean hamburger is 1 point higher than Beyond.
I use ground chicken and ground turkey, lean, myself.

Sodium depends on how you season.
390 milligrams of sodium corresponds to around an 1/8th of a teaspoon (not leveled). So if you put a hearty pinch of salt on your burger, you're at Beyond level sodium levels.

Do you remember the food chain from elementary school? (energy transfer). IIRC, each step in the food chain is a 10% transfer. If you eat plants (10g) that goes directly to you. If you eat beef (10g), the cow eats the plants, (100g), so 10 times more plant material has to be consumed to get you that 10g. (simplified, but just to make the point).

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2024-05-04 09:45 AM

Yes, and for years it was illegal for margarine to be sold in the state of Wisconsin, and when it was finally allowed, it had to be left in it's natural color, pure white, making it indistinguishable from lard.

OCU

#29 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-05-04 12:35 PM

Yes, and for years it was illegal for margarine to be sold in the state of Wisconsin, and when it was finally allowed, it had to be left in it's natural color, pure white, making it indistinguishable from lard.

OCU

#29 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-05-04 12:35 PM | Reply | Flag

It was called Oleo (iirc)and they used to put a drop of yellow food coloring in the top. You could stir it in and make it yellow if you wanted to.
The Dairy Farmers Assn. brought you this because of the competition with butter.

#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-04 03:34 PM

I don't think cows will do well in an extraterrestrial environment, so how else will the space pioneers get their burgers and steaks?

#31 | Posted by MBlue at 2024-05-05 06:54 AM

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