Hamas Accepts Cease-fire Proposal for Gaza War

Monday, May 06, 2024

According to The Associated Press and Reuters, the Palestinian militant group accepted ideas proposed by Qatar and Egypt amid intensive negotiations that involved the U.S.

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Hamas Accepts Cease-fire Proposal For Gaza War

Till next time, I guess.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-06 01:25 PM

Israel will now reject it.

The bleatings of psychopathic ------- who regurgitate the propaganda of ethno-supremacist genociders aside, Israel had just committed itself to further mass murder and mayhem and has been outmaneuvered.

#2 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-06 01:33 PM

Israel will now reject it. The bleatings of psychopathic ------- who regurgitate the propaganda of ethno-supremacist genociders aside, Israel had just committed itself to further mass murder and mayhem and has been outmaneuvered.
#2 | Posted by pumpkinhead

Yes, because the master-strategists of Hamas have out-maneuvered Israel. Given your adoration for Hamas, it must be tough for you to imagine a group of people who think strategically and rationally:

"Hamas' acceptance of the deal comes just hours after Israel ordered Palestinians living in Rafah, a city in southern Gaza, to "evacuate immediately." The order raised fears that Israel's long-threatened assault on the city could be imminent. More than 1 million Palestinians have fled to Rafah, where Hamas is believed to have regrouped after Israel's destruction of much of the north of Gaza. A source familiar with Israeli plans told CNN that a limited incursion into Rafah was intended to keep pressure on Hamas to agree to a deal that would bring about the ceasefire-for-hostages deal." www.cnn.com

#3 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-06 01:43 PM

"because the master-strategists of Hamas have out-maneuvered Israel."

There's hope for you yet, genocide boy!

Remember all those worldwide protests of support for the Palestinian people before the events of October 7th?
Me neither. Israel is toast.

#4 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-06 01:48 PM

Anyway, The genociders so badly want to jump on the rest of "Amalek" but those pesky 'Hamas lovers" (that have inexplicably multiplied 100000-fold since October 7th) are putting pressure on the poor wittle psychopaths not to go full-bore Reinhard Heydrich on them.

What is a poor victimized genocidal Zionist to do?

#5 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-06 01:54 PM

Remember all those worldwide protests of support for the Palestinian people before the events of October 7th?
Me neither. Israel is toast. #4 | Posted by pumpkinhead

Please let me know how you think that the nuclear-weapon-armed nation of Israel will become toast? Other than literally, by being nuked. Which I guess would render the Palestinians into "toast" as well.

I look forward to your carefully thought out and detailed response.

#6 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-06 01:54 PM

'Please let me know how you think that the nuclear-weapon-armed nation of Israel will become toast?"

They are hard at work figuring that out themselves-- with the progress they have made over the past 7 months in that regard, they don't really need my insignificant input. But I'm sure they appreciate you trying to prevent the inevitable with your trenchant spam-posting of that cute "recycle" graphic.

#7 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-06 02:01 PM

Lmao Pumpkin has drank the Hamas Koolaid.

#8 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-06 02:11 PM

They are hard at work figuring that out themselves-- with the progress they have made over the past 7 months in that regard, they don't really need my insignificant input. [...] #7 | Posted by pumpkinhead

So, you've got nothing. Other than your hopes and dreams.

That's OK I guess. Maybe add on the 30,000 dead Palestinians (by Hamas's count) and Northern Gaza, which Israel has decimated and may take for sheets and giggles, into your calculus and I can see why you think this has been an absolute success for the Palestinian people. Hard to believe that the Palestinians would want this to come to an end.

You guys sure taught the Jews a lesson!

#9 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-06 02:12 PM

"Lmao Pumpkin has drank the Hamas Koolaid."

Aww, Genocide Boy's fellow BlueWaffen has weighed in! Nice of him to suddenly and conveniently show up. It's just like rubbing some magic lamp!

"So, you've got nothing"

Other than the fact that Israel is proving to be its own worst enemy? We have a bingo!!!!!

"You guys sure taught the Jews a lesson"

The many Jewish students, teachers and faculty I met on campuses in NYC, Philly an Boston over the past few weeks are teaching the ethno-supremacist zionists a HUGE lesson-- namely, not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists.

Really, you obviously don't get out much and you rely heavily on the MSM and your own Israel-friendly political bubble to shape your increasingly obsolete worldview.

#10 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-06 02:34 PM

"You guys sure taught the Jews a lesson"

Killing 30,000 civilians in retaliation for killing 1,200 civilians taught us all a lesson.

Just not the same lesson.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-06 02:41 PM

#10 | Posted by pumpkinhead

Still got nothing, huh? It's alright. Maybe you'll think of something by the next time the Palestinians start a war they can't finish. Maybe in five or ten years?

Wonder if that Northern Gaza territory Israel took will make for good oceanfront resorts.

#12 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-06 02:42 PM

Wonder if that Northern Gaza territory Israel took will make for good oceanfront resorts.

POSTED BY CENSORED AT 2024-05-06 02:42 PM | REPLY

Then people wonder why Palestinians lash out. Israel has no right to it. Thems the facts.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-06 02:47 PM

History is written by the victor.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-06 02:49 PM

"territory Israel took"

It sounds better in Hebrew:
Lebensraum.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-06 02:51 PM

Then people wonder why Palestinians lash out. Israel has no right to it. Thems the facts. #13 | Posted by LauraMohr

Sure, except that's the way the world works. People fight wars and then lose territory when the don't win. Do you see the Muslims giving back the land that they stole?

Is the US giving California and Texas back to Mexico? If so, do the Mexicans give the land back to the indigenous people that they took the land from?

Here's a brief video to bring you up to speed on what has come before and what lies ahead.

#16 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-06 02:55 PM

Then people wonder why Palestinians lash out. Israel has no right to it. Thems the facts.
#13 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

It most certainly does have a right to it.

Oct7 was an invasion. Israel is responding in kind.

Winner gets the spoils.

One can only hope after Israel claims all territory the Palestinians will acknowledge their plight, plug into the Israeli economy and become prosperous.

After all isn't a majority of Palestinians living well, better than being under a Theocracy that's doesn't support abortion, it LGBT rights?

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-06 03:02 PM

"History is written by the victor"

Perhaps, when searching for truth, that's a good reason one should never trust the victors.

#18 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-06 03:03 PM

"Winner gets the spoils."

Your occasional chlamydia flare-ups, for example.

#19 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-06 03:10 PM

"Oct7 was an invasion. Israel is responding in kind"

Oct 7 was a terror attack. Israel has been responding with terror attacks for six months.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-06 03:18 PM

Perhaps, when searching for truth, that's a good reason one should never trust the victors.
#18 | Posted by pumpkinhead

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#21 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-06 03:19 PM

So by Censored and one nuts reckoning Russia is entitled to occupy and annex Ukraine. They are entitled to, because NATO proved too weak to stop them.

Got it.

By the way, Russia has killed Fewer civilians in Two+ years of war on a front 600 miles long.

Israel is waging a war of Annihilation. Russia has been positively Civilized by comparison.

#22 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-06 03:35 PM

I mean Effe, they already did. I guess you don't remember Obama and the Donbas region back in 2014.

#23 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-06 03:52 PM

"Hamas agreed to a different proposal than one Israel helped craft, sources say The latest proposal calls for an end to the war, which Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he will not accept, the senior American official said. "It incudes a permanent end to hostilities, which is a red line for (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu," the senior US official said. "This is not the same position," the senior Israeli official said." www.cnn.com

LOL! Strange that Hamas wants a war to end that some here claim that it is winning.

Israel should accept their own cease-fire; one with terms that Hamas has not agreed to. A cease-fire that involves the Palestinians moving to Antarctica seems like a good first step.

#24 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-06 04:49 PM

Asymmetric warfare is not the Same.

They are winning in the sense that the more Palestinians who die needlessly,the more Israel Shows it's True Face.

This makes Israel very Vulnerable long term.

They were already seen as Mavericks, by the world. A Country joined at the Hip with the Americans.

Now they are seen as Monsters of Disproportionate response. The inner rot of being like that for so long, has made them totally Tone Deaf to how monstrous and intolerable their Speech and Behavior are to the world watching in horror.

They can massacre All the Palestinians if they want. But the Price will be High.

They won't get away with it long term.

It will erode the viability of their whole endeavor over time.

A death of a thousand cuts.

#25 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-06 10:16 PM

Israel will be like North Korea.

A ------ backwater that other countries avoid and sanction.

If the US were to get Fed Up and Abandon them?....

How Viable are they, really?

Israel by it's excesses... will make their own Worst Fears come True.

#26 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-06 10:47 PM

Yeah that's not happening Effe, Israel is the good ole US of A's outpost to the Middle East. They keep the peace for us and do the things we don't necessarily want our finger prints on (especially with Iran). The sooner you learn and accept this, the better off you will be.

You're clearly entitled to your opinion (though you are in the minority opinion on this subject) and everyone is entitled to their own. But what I just typed is the truth and so long as the US exists, Israel will as well.

#27 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-06 11:13 PM

Germany still exists. It's not what it was. The War broke German Militarism.

Israel will be forced by circumstances to change in ways that will discredit them they will have to. If they actually do what the top Likud Ministers are calling for, the US will react unpredictably for the First time.

Anything could happen. Most likely Biden will find some way to tamp down the unrest. If policies don't change these latest protests could be minor and limited compared to what's coming.

The harder they clamp down,the more repressive they get, the bigger the protests will become. Unless the US becomes a less than free nation.

They could drag the US down with Them.

Bring us to their level of open Murder and open Ethnic Vainglory.

If Trump wins that's going to play out.

Interesting Times Ahead.

#28 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-07 12:38 AM

So Hamas lied to give cover to its useful idiots to falsely claim Israel was going back on its terms; terms that Israel had never agreed to. And Hamas's lies help it keep those Palestinian civilians as human shields by discouraging them from evacuating because the civvies mistakenly believe that there is a cease-fire.

Where my Hamas-Lovers at? PumpkinHead, you got anything to add? That master strategy you were drooling over in #2 working out as you thought? Hamas just revealed itself to the entire world as doing exactly what Israel has been claiming since Hamas started this war; using civilians as human shields so they can cry crocodile tears when they are hurt.

#29 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-07 07:52 AM

""An Israeli official said on Monday a truce Hamas said it agreed to was a "softened" version of an Egyptian proposal that included "far-reaching" conclusions that Israel could not accept. This would appear to be a ruse [by Hamas] intended to make Israel look like the side refusing a deal," said the Israeli official" www.reuters.com
So Hamas lied to give cover to its useful idiots to falsely claim Israel was going back on its terms; terms that Israel had never agreed to. And Hamas's lies help it keep those Palestinian civilians as human shields by discouraging them from evacuating because the civvies mistakenly believe that there is a cease-fire.
Where my Hamas-Lovers at? PumpkinHead, you got anything to add? That master strategy you were drooling over in #2 working out as you thought? Hamas just revealed itself to the entire world as doing exactly what Israel has been claiming since Hamas started this war; using civilians as human shields so they can cry crocodile tears when they are hurt.
#29 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-07 07:52 AM

Israel didn't have a representative in Cairo for this reason.

Keep on lying.

#cloacapride

#30 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-05-07 11:08 AM

Israel didn't have a representative in Cairo for this reason. Keep on lying.

What? Israel already gave its terms. On numerous occasions, none of which involved an permanent end to the war that Hamas started. If Hamas wants to negotiate with itself, I guess it can do so. Keeps them off the streets.

#cloacapride #30 | Posted by redlightrobot
Is this some sort of anti-gay statement that you keep making? Because you hate gays, just like the vast majority of Palestinians?

That's fine, I guess. I respect your culture's hatred of homosexuals. #StrengthInDiversity(OfHate)

#31 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-07 11:24 AM

"By the way, Russia has killed Fewer civilians in Two+ years of war on a front 600 miles long."

According to Hamas. A terrorist organization.

How many Hamas militants have been killed?

The number varies dramatically depending on who you choose to believe.

IDF says they have killed 10,000 Hamas militants.

Hamas says 2353 militants have died.

I am betting the number of civilians killed varies just as dramatically.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-07 12:04 PM

Oct 7 was a terror attack. Israel has been responding with terror attacks for six months.

#20 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

And Hamas has held hostages for that whole time. Apparently they are just not getting the message. Don't attack Israelis and release the hostages immediately.

If you are not mentioning hostages every time you defend Hamas then you are helping with Hamas's PR propaganda.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-07 01:33 PM

If you're a member of the Islamic Resistance, you want a cease fire. First, it's only temporary...the fighting will come up again.

But a cease fire would offer the opportunity to redistribute civilians to use as human shields, as well as dig-in for the inevitable resumption of conflict.

The Palestinians are a tool for the Islamic Resistance. A cease-fire means that only more of them will die in the long run. And guaranteed, the Jihadists don't care how many civilians die if it furthers the cause of the Islamic State.

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-07 01:39 PM

Oct 7 was a terror attack. Israel has been responding with terror attacks for six months.
#20 | POSTED BY SNOOFY
And Hamas has held hostages for that whole time. Apparently they are just not getting the message. Don't attack Israelis and release the hostages immediately.
If you are not mentioning hostages every time you defend Hamas then you are helping with Hamas's PR propaganda.
#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-07 01:33 PM

Israel has been bombing out and starving hostages "that whole time".

Also shooting them dead.

I highly doubt there are many left, but that's a dilemma!

Israel began this Rafah assault missiling eleven children to pieces playing a busted foosball table in a destroyed street. It hit feet away.

Such accuracy denotes careful, precise determined methods, aka genocide.

How many students have said squat about Hamas? Who's "PR propaganda" says otherwise?

Why did Israel claim that Hamas denied the deal which is opposite what the United States negotiators claim?

#35 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-05-07 01:43 PM

Also, just to clarify how moronic I feel this argument truly is:

IF Hamas has hostages.. bombing Hamas IS bombing hostages.

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-05-07 01:53 PM

"Israel has been bombing out and starving hostages "that whole time"."

Have they?

The Islamic Resistance has been stockpiling food assistance for months in anticipation of their war on Israel?

Isn't the Islamic Resistance the party that was elected to lead in the Gaza Strip.

As a side, even ISIS and Saddam Hussein distributed rations, even when they were facing an imminent loss. But I guess if you're holed up in a Doha penthouse, the lives of Palestinian proles don't mean much unless they can further your goals.

Hamas is trash. The closest analogy I can make is to the British officers in WWI, who sent tens of thousands of troops across the line, knowing they would almost certainly die.

They didn't care. They had a whole country full of fresh humans to take their place. Eventually, maybe they could gain some ground. If not...did it really matter?

#37 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-07 01:56 PM

"IF Hamas has hostages.. bombing Hamas IS bombing hostages."

Hamas could easily end the attacks by releasing all the hostages.

Yet you and people like you don't seem to offer this as a solution.

#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-07 01:57 PM

How many students have said squat about Hamas?

A poll, taken in November by the Marquette Law School, challenged respondents to take sides. It asked: "When it comes to Israel's war with Hamas in Gaza, should the U.S. support Israel, support Hamas or not take a position?" Only 5 percent of registered voters said the United States should support Hamas, but 16 percent of under-30s chose that answer. Twenty-three percent preferred to support Israel; 61 percent said the United States shouldn't take a position.

Apparently about 16% of under 30 respondents actually think we should support Hamas.

...

Why did Israel claim that Hamas denied the deal which is opposite what the United States negotiators claim?

#35 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

In war the first casualty is the truth. Initial reports of anything are always suspect.

I am pretty sure there was never any deal and it sounds like more Hamas PR or war propaganda.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-07 02:02 PM

"IF Hamas has hostages.. bombing Hamas IS bombing hostages."
Hamas could easily end the attacks by releasing all the hostages.
Yet you and people like you don't seem to offer this as a solution.
#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-07 01:57 PM

Which part of this logic puzzle eludes you?

Bombs that kill Hamas undoubtedly kill hostages.

The evidence is that there are no penthouses in Gaza. You understand that much, right?

#40 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-05-07 02:05 PM

"Which part of this logic puzzle eludes you?"

Let's game this out.

Were the Islamic Resistance to release its hostages-even its civilian hostages-what effect do you think this would have on the conflict.

You seem to be suggesting that, without the hostages, the Islamic Resistance would be at even greater risk, which in turn suggests that you support, or at least empathize with the Islamic Resistance taking hostages.

Which further suggests that you empathize with the agenda of the Islamic Resistance, which is v,0 of the final solution to the Jewish question.

#41 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-05-07 02:19 PM

Have the pal/hams figured out what happens when they rain missles down on Israel? I doubt it.

#42 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2024-05-07 04:33 PM

PARANOID?, why is Israel so paranoid? They Do what they accuse others of doing.

It's like... they hear it when Islamic clerics call for Jew Murder. Fair Enough.

But they never seem to hear the Israeli ministers,.... People with Actual Power foaming at the mouth about Amelek, talking about Biblical Vengeance. Calling for ethnic cleansing and annexation of Gaza and the West Bank.

Getting themselves written up by the ICC. Sanctioned by the UN.

Likud wants to finish the "Palestinian Problem". With most Israelis along for the ride.

And Americans, like so many posters here as well.

No Moral high Ground. Just Naked Tribalism and self interest.

#43 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-07 04:42 PM

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#35 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-05-07 01:43 PM |
Why did Israel claim that Hamas denied the deal which is opposite what the United States negotiators claim?

Very simple - because Hamas announced that they accepted the deal, but the "deal" they "accepted" was the same deal that Hamas kept proposing all along - which they knew was a non-starter - not one of the deals and their non-negotiable components that were actually on the table in Cairo and Doha. Since the statement contained the magic word "cease-fire" all "interested parties" immediately rejoiced.

IOW, there was never any intention by Hamas of negotiating in good faith, just stonewalling, and they knew that just announcing that "Hamas accepted a cease-fire deal" just before the deadline would be picked up by all news outlets and the "usual suspects" at the UN and the Axis (for reference see: Kremlinbot troll Effeteposer on DR), and that Israel again will be blamed for "starting" military action when Hamas "agreed" to "peace"...

Play stupid games - win stupid prizes. Hamas won this one.

Hamas' gambit here is not to win militarily, but to "win by losing" using all the propaganda tools and creating the "optics" (like recent "IDF's mass graves" hoax) to put pressure on the West, and particularly Biden administration - who think they need to cater to "Squad" and appease other pro-Hamas agitators and organizers in order to win November elections - to make schizophrenic statements and policies which actually undermine their own goals, since Biden's stern "Don't!" to Iran (about planned attack on Israel with barrage of missiles) fell on Ayatollah's deaf ears.

Show of weakness only begets more violence.
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#44 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-05-07 10:59 PM

There will more violence no matter what.

Israel has all the excuses they need. The True Face of Zionism is coming into Focus.

The next few months will show everyone Exactly who they are.

Biden will shill for them. The Congress will try to criminalize any vocal or effective protests as "Anti-Semitic" or just illegal.

The real test of our freedoms is if we can continue to protest or if the State shuts them down.

Israel is pulling out the stops on the pity party. It's Sad,and real Predictable.

The challenge is allowing different voices to be heard.

It's easy to be pro free speech when you agree on the topic and with the opinions being aired.

Now we find out if America is tolerant of dissent or just pretends to be.

#45 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-07 11:22 PM

Is the " Rules Based Order" a lie?

A convenient fiction that collapses with the least pressure put on it?

It's not a universal thing. Only situational and transactional.

A pretense that fools only the already convinced.

#46 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-07 11:29 PM

Greetings from Union Square, NYC!

m.youtube.com

#47 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-07 11:36 PM

Greetings from Union Square, NYC! m.youtube.com
#47 | Posted by pumpkinhead

Oh no! Looks like you've got the crucial Macklemore support wrapped up.

Israel better lay down arms and surrender before you whip out the Milli Vanilli tunes.

#48 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-08 08:29 AM

"Milli Vanilli tunes."

That's some serious cringe 80's flexing there, Mr. MTV.

Anyway, Macklemore's half a million views every 12 hours aside, I'm sure your Fuhrer Netanyahu will soon be mewing on YouTube with his own "Zionist Genocider" rap, showing how awesome it is to murder and maim tens of thousands of babies and women in the name of keeping white supremacist, colonialist, ethno-supremacist fascism alive and well. You continue to do your part, crusader-- no doubt you have some welcome company here on the 'tort, especially all those killfile sock puppets!

#49 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-05-08 01:23 PM

[...]You continue to do your part, crusader
Drink! Also, no one but you and Hamas consider that term a pejorative. But I'll chalk that up as a cultural thing amongst your people.

-- no doubt you have some welcome company here on the 'tort, especially all those killfile sock puppets! #49 | Posted by pumpkinhead
Is that what you think? That I have sockpuppets? You find it that hard to believe that more than one person on this site recognizes that Hamas/Palestinians are full of it?

Must be nice living in your world. Where Hamas is the winner as it loses even more of the little territory it controlled and, by its own reckoning, 30K Palestinians. As Israel makes it clear the war will not be ending on any terms other than its own.

Hope you're enjoying that awesome Hamas ceasefire you were celebrating in #2.