Thursday, August 01, 2024

More than 900 Native American Children Died at U.S. Boarding Schools

More than 900 Native American children died while being forced to attend Indian boarding schools, according to a new federal report that urges the U.S. government to formally apologize for the enduring trauma inflicted by its systematic effort to assimilate the children and destroy their culture.

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"Kill the Indian in him, and save the man"
Richard Henry Pratt
Founder, Carlisle Indian Industrial School

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-07-31 06:53 AM

Taking away kids' clothes, putting them in uniforms, cutting their hair, punishing them for speaking their languages, all with a heavy dollop of enforced Christianity.

Of course they ran away, of course they died.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-07-31 07:02 AM

That boarding school education boomeranged somewhat on the Plains during the millenarian 1889-1890 Ghost Dance movement (of which Wounded Knee was the denouement). Ghost Dance adherents could communicate with fellow believers speaking different languages on reservations far away by turning to returnees from Carlisle who spoke and wrote English. The older folk dictated messages to a Carlisle grad, who translated their remarks and wrote them down as a letters in English. The letter's recipient would call upon a Carlisle returnee from his own outfit to read the letter and translate it into whatever. And so the word spread.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-07-31 10:48 AM

It's what they do. Guess what they're doing in Africa.

#4 | Posted by fresno500 at 2024-07-31 09:26 PM

There is no greater apology than changing an entire political system to correct the wrongs that were done. And that has been done. Now it's time to look forward. The more Dems try to attack our past, the less we will actually progress. Which means progressives are turning into regressives. Which makes sense since so many prominent Dems are fighting battles that got fixed in the 60s.

#5 | Posted by humtake at 2024-08-01 11:44 AM

My Great-grandmother was arrested while trying to keep her children at home. She and otherwomen fought the law and won... but only after a long fight. Nevertheless... 7 out of 10 of her children were taken to that school... her three youngest were schooled closer to home.

It's what they do. Guess what they're doing in Africa.

#4 | POSTED BY FRESNO500 AT 2024-07-31 09:26 PM | REPLY | FLAG:PPFFTTT

Carlisle isn't in Africa... focus...focus

#6 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-08-01 11:46 AM

This went on for a long long time and it only happened because the funding for it was repeatedly approved throughout many different Congresses and Presidents.

Even those who were (or would be if they knew) indifferent to the abuse didn't manage to even question the funding?

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2024-08-01 11:58 AM

Dems are fighting battles that got fixed in the 60s.

#5 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2024-08-01 11:44 AM | REPLY | FLAG:PPFFFTTTT

How do YOU know the battles got fixed? YOU don't even know what the battles were... or are... all this is news to you and you're upset because you think someone might get something they don't deserve... and you'll get left out.

It's soooooooo unfaiiiiirrrrrrrrrrr

Native Americans weren't allowed to congregate in large numbers except for church and on their own reservation until the 60s... after the freedom to move around that whole Powwow circuit introduced many Americans (if not most) to the culture...and everyone started wearing our style... hippies and such... even though we didn't dress like that all the time.

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-08-01 12:01 PM

"There is no greater apology than changing an entire political system to correct the wrongs that were done"

That would be the same system we have now.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-08-01 12:48 PM

Native Americans weren't allowed to congregate in large numbers except for church and on their own reservation until the 60s...

Is anyone allowed to "congregate in large numbers"? Whats a large number? 5- 5000?

But this kinda reinforces his argument, fighting a battle thats been fixed.

My other question is since when? 900 NA children have died since when?

Finally, its interesting people here that want MORE federal government are arguing against what the federal government does.

Weren't the Japanese interned?

Do these same people believe companies are worse or better than the Federal Government. Seems to me Federal government in general doesn't to things very well.

For instance, have 900 Ford employees died? Yahoo? et al.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-01 08:03 PM

There is a synchronicity involving the timing of this important report. Carlisle Indian Industrial School alumnus Jim Thorpe was the first Native American to ever win a gold medal for the US. In the 1912 Summer Olympics held in Stockholm, Sweden, Jim Thorpe won one gold medal in the classic pentathlon and one gold medal in the decathlon. In 1913, his two gold medals were wrongfully taken away from him, but in 1983 the IOC posthumously re-awarded him and gave his two children replica gold medals.

BTW: One of Jim Thorpe's 1912 Olympics teammates who didn't win a medal was none other than future US Army General George S. "Old Blood and Guts" Patton who competed in the military pentathlon.

Source:

blogs.loc.gov

#11 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2024-08-02 04:08 AM

deflected like the colonizers you are.

#12 | Posted by fresno500 at 2024-08-02 08:33 AM

Pratt, who put together the Carlisle boarding school, previously had charge of a group of Southern Plains folk, mostly men - Kiowas, Arapahos, Cheyennes, Comanches - taken from Oklahoma and imprisoned at Ft. Marion in St. Augustine, FL. It was essentially a lab, a dry run for the boarding schools to come, complete with the obligatory uniforms, classroom attendance, exposure to Christianity, etc.

#13 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-08-02 09:35 AM

11 | POSTED BY C0RI0LANUS

Sad to read but good to know and recognize. Thank you for sharing what happened to Jim Thorpe.

#14 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2024-08-02 10:38 AM

From time.com
Knute Rockne liked to recall one pro game against Thorpe. Playing end, Rockne twice crashed through the blocking backs and dumped Jim for a loss. "Rock," said Jim, "do you see all those people in the stands? They're here to see the Old Indian run. Be a good boy, Rock, and let the Old Indian run." On the next play, Thorpe went right through Rockne for a touchdown. When Rockne came to he looked up into Thorpe's grinning face. Said Jim: "That's a good boy, Rock. You let the Old Indian run."

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-08-02 10:45 AM

"The more Dems try to attack our past, the less we will actually progress."

The more you are reminded of America's past mistakes the more deplorable you get. You can learn from your mistakes. In fact that is how you learn. If you never make mistakes you won't learn much.

Exposing and talking about the past is not "attacking" it. Thats like trying to attack the wake of a ship in the water. The past is gone. You cannot "attack" it. But we can talk about it and try not to make the same mistakes.

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

Republicans wish to repeat the past. Historians are just trying to remind you how bad it was for many in the past and that we are Not Going Back.

Time to grow up little hummer.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-02 11:09 AM

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

A friend of mine was a corner for the Oakland Raiders and later the SD Chargers.

He described this scene to me that happened during the first game SD and Oakland played after he was traded to SD.:

"I came around the corner. Plunkett (Jim, Oakland QB) was looking the other way for a receiver. When he turned in my direction I was 5' away. His eyes got huge as I plowed into him. I'm laying on top of him, staring in his face, and said, "Hey, Jim, good to see you. I'll be right back!!"

#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-08-02 11:14 AM

"Finally, its interesting people here that want MORE federal government are arguing against what the federal government does."

What's Interesting that you think people here want MORE federal government. Who here has actually said that? Maybe we just want an effective and efficient and compassionate federal government? Did you ask before you assumed you know what people here are thinking? Why not? Is that just what your handlers tell you to say these things regardless of reality (which is obviously much more complex than your oversimplification). But maybe if you repeat your lies over and over they will become true ... for you?

Did you know that the largest expansion of the federal government since 1947 was the creation of the Department of Homeland Security? Do you know which party and which administration created that agency? (Hint: it was created in 2002)

Interesting that you think we cannot criticize our own federal government and try and learn from our country's mistakes.

That must be the commie in you.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-02 12:07 PM

Learned about this back in college (the first time I went).
Took a 'Native American History' course at one of them thar
'Liberal Arts Colleges'. Sure glad I did. Learned a lot
from the class. For one, 'how to be a human being'.
Something most of those on the right could stand to learn.

#19 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-08-02 01:49 PM

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