Saturday, January 18, 2025

Shove the Presidency Down Trump's Throat

Liberals spent the president-elect's first term trying and failing to kick him out of office. This time out, they need to turn the White House into a prison.

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Democrats need to have an aggressive and coordinated media strategy involving all of their members, surfacing derogatory information about Republicans, enumerating the problems they've failed to address, and filling the news hole with fresh complaints.

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-- The New Republic (@newrepublic.com) January 18, 2025 at 12:59 PM

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More: The most recent entry in the "good advice for Democrats" canon comes from occasional TNR contributor and Bulwark writer Jonathan V. Last, who wrote, "The job of the Democratic party comes in two parts. First: Do not help Republicans. Not in any way. Second: Make Donald Trump own every bad outcome that happens, anywhere in the world." True enough. The only problem here is the lack of an organized Democratic Party to actually serve as an aggressive opposition party. We could use one of those!

Nevertheless, there is a lesson here for liberals that we should perhaps heed while Democrats in Washington debate how supine they want to get for the incoming administration. During Trump's first term, much of the mainstream left organized itself around the idea that "this was not normal" and that surely our over-regarded system of norms would save us from Trump. And so deep investments were made in various quick fixes"an impeachment effort and the Mueller investigation chief among them"that seemed to offer the hope of prematurely canceling the Trump presidency, without much regard for how difficult it is to actually oust a president (or for the decades of evidence suggesting that our justice system routinely fails to hold the rich and powerful to account, more broadly).

A second Trump era offers the opportunity for a change of course"a second reckoning of sorts. I think that Last is on to something when he suggests that Trump's opposition should force him to "own every bad outcome that happens, anywhere in the world." I'd actually take this a step further. Rather than exert so much energy trying to thrust Trump out of the presidency, liberals would be well served to spend their time thrusting the presidency upon Donald Trump. Instead of searching for illusory quick fixes for the existence of the Trump administration, start demanding the Trump administration fix everything quickly.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-01-18 02:46 PM

Just stand back, let them do what they want and watch the fall out. They will eat their own. It is already starting, i.e., Bannon Vs Musk.

#2 | Posted by mattm at 2025-01-18 06:42 PM

Just stand back, let them do what they want and watch the fall out.

Exactly. This is going to be awesome!

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-18 06:55 PM

Make lists, of those paying bribes, grifting Americans, acting as phony Christians, unsupportive of their fellow countrymen, etc. if there are elections in 2026, King Dotard II should be hung from every MAGA pols neck. They should share the blame, humiliation and feelings of disgust ...

#4 | Posted by catdog at 2025-01-18 10:13 PM

Interesting concept, and workable. Trump's already paranoid. Play on that.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-01-18 11:30 PM

"If there are elections in 2026 ... " LOL!!!!! My God some of you need to visit the rubber room with how delusional you are.

#6 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-19 04:51 AM

Yeah back to promising us he "will be presidential" when he "gets into office"... not delivering. SOSDD.

The election didn't cure his dementia... but it does frame republicl0wn stupid real nice.

#7 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-01-19 06:36 AM

#6
Boomerang post. Lol.

#8 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-01-19 06:49 AM

Y'all are barking into the wind. Trump doesn't give one sheet about fulfilling the responsibilities of being president. He's there to enrich himself and the oligarchs who rule our country and helped him into office.

The rest of the nation and world can go hang for all he cares. He's got carte blanche for at least the next two years and he's going to take full advantage of it.

#9 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-19 08:02 AM

Hey Doc, I've never been an idiot to say elections won't be held in the future when Dems control everything. You want to know why? It's because I'm not an idiot.

#10 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-19 09:12 AM

Fascists don't really care too much for elections... and this new punk band Donald and the Oligarchs, where Donnie is just the front man, and the Oligarchs are much bigger billionaires than he... are the very definition of Corporations controlling the Government.

Who needs elections when the politicians are For Sale and the Billionaires and Corporations are buying them up cheap? Just cut out the middle man voters and be done with it, right?

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-19 12:07 PM

George Soros is not an Oligarch Corky?

So here we are we have Doc and Corky both saying elections won't be happening in 2026. Does anyone else want to add their name to this buffoonery so when the election does occur I can openly mock and ridicule you for said idiocy?

#12 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-19 02:18 PM

So here we are we have Doc and Corky both saying elections won't be happening in 2026.

#12 | Posted by Bluewaffles

The possibility is greater than zero.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-19 02:26 PM

Does anyone else want to add their name to this buffoonery so when the election does occur

#12 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Elections happen in Russia all the time.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-19 02:27 PM

I can openly mock and ridicule you for said idiocy?

#12 | Posted by Bluewaffles

The bastard you support already attempted to overthrow the US government.

Do you intend to hid from reality forever?

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-19 02:28 PM

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has no business accusing anyone of "idiocy"

#16 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-01-19 03:07 PM

Zed it's an easy question: Will free in fair elections occur in 2026? Yes or no?

#17 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-19 03:40 PM

Will free in fair elections occur in 2026? Yes or no?

#17 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 202

No one knows.

You see the problem?

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-19 03:59 PM

- George Soros is not an Oligarch Corky?

Soros didn't spend at least 200 million to buy a Pres candidate, and then move into his house with him. After creating an extra-governmental agency to harass and control gov agencies.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-19 04:09 PM

Tampa Bay News
Politics

'Backed ourselves into an oligarchy': Hillsborough Republican lawmaker chimes in on influence of lobbyists and party leadership

"An archconservative Harvard Law School-educated attorney, Beltran held a safe Republican state House seat in right-leaning east Hillsborough County, easily winning elections in 2018, 2020 and 2022.

But in 2024, Beltran announced unexpectedly in June that he would not seek reelection. He gave some of the common reasons " a growing family, a law practice and an elderly father out of state, all needing his attention.

But there was another reason, which Beltran didn't want to talk about at the time:

What he describes as an oppressive and dictatorial atmosphere in the Florida Legislature, where all legislative initiatives and even members' votes are tightly controlled and monitored by top leaders in the House and Senate.

That system, according to Beltran's view, stifles independence by rank-and-file members and forces them to consider the demands of legislative leaders more than their own consciences or the wishes of their constituents.

"It's a culture from the top that encourages groupthink and conformity," Beltran said. "It's like going to the cafeteria in a prison where they serve what they serve and you eat it. If you don't take what they serve up, they think you're a bad person and treat you accordingly."

"We have taken what is on paper a constitutional republic and we have backed ourselves into an oligarchy," he said.

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The system also forces legislators to kowtow to special interests and the money they give legislative leaders to fund campaigns, Beltran said.

It comes in unlimited soft-money donations to political committees, routinely six or seven figures, from the state's largest and most powerful corporations and their lobbyists.

"As long as you have a soft-money loophole allowing committees to raise and spend unlimited money, you will allow special interests to have an outsize influence on politics," Beltran said.

"It also allows legislative leadership to essentially control the rank-and-file members by controlling access to fundraising."

www.cltampa.com

He could have been describing the Republican-led House in Washington.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-19 04:32 PM

Sounds like everyone just needs to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and become billionaires to level the playing field.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-19 04:42 PM

Yeah... or do like Trump did and create their own Bitcoin and make about 50 or so Billion overnight.

The US Gov is For Sale, and Trumpers did that.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-19 04:47 PM

Next time don't miss.

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-19 09:39 PM

Trump said he could end the war in Ukraine even before getting sworn in.
Whuhappen?
More distraction for the easily distracted.
Buckle up, bozos.

#24 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-01-20 05:52 AM

Blue, this thread isn't for you. It's a liberal tear jerker. Poor miserable beings. Let them try to cry it out.

#25 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-01-20 01:02 PM

---- off you stupid mewling ----

#26 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-20 11:40 PM

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