Vaccine Expert: Measles Deaths Are Being Normalized

Tuesday, April 15, 2025

"I would have thought that after a second child died, we would have all been activated to do this. But it seems like because it's being normalized as -- well, children die of measles -- this is something I truly worry about, and it actually keeps me up nights some because there is no reason in the United States for us to have a single child die of measles." -- ousted FDA vaccine chief Dr. Peter Marks

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Only the weak will fail!

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-15 08:50 AM

"Measles killing and permanently maiming millions of kids every year is a normal part of life. As natural as contracting listeria from drinking raw milk or the Black Death wiping out half the population. Nothing that can be done about it, really."
-MAGAts and Polio Bob

Force women to have unwanted babies and then let them die as small children because that fat orange Nazi pig traitor POTUS, woman raping daughter lusting scumbag that he is, decided that wearing a mask or taking a vaccine is just so democrat like. A pox on this administration allowing these religious nutcases to kill their own children. No excuses.

Three deaths from measles according to the article.

Right now prescription medications are the third leading killer of people, behind only cancer and heart disease. And you clowns are trying to make a political -------- out of 3 people dying. There's a reason only 21% of the raetards give your party a thumbs up.

trying to make a political -------- out of 3 people dying.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Not caring about three people dying is the political sh--show, sh--head.

You're a vicious bas----. I imagine that you'll die as you've lived.

And you clowns are trying to make a political -------- out of 3 people dying. There's a reason only 21% of the raetards give your party a thumbs up.

POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

You left out something as usual. Something very important.

Dying Unnecessarily.

People are dying unnecessarily.

They are dying because of ignant arses such as yourself.

Dems are polling badly because they cannot yet stop the rapid disassembling and destruction of our democractic institutions by you Nazis lovin maga maroons. And American ms are dying unnecessarily.

Republicans have dropped any pretense of compassion for their fellow humans.

Time for the Dem gloves to come off too.

Time to get down with the sickness.

"And you clowns are trying to make a political -------- out of 3 people dying."

Y'all still doing that over one person dying because she dressed like a ---- near an immigrant, so...

And you clowns are trying to make a political -------- out of 3 people dying.

No, it's about the resurgence of a once functionally eradicated disease because of viciously stupid s^*% stains like you.

"3 people dying."

Like it's gonna stop at three.

"3 people dying."

Like it's gonna stop at three.

"3 people dying."

Like it's gonna stop at three.

Like this is going to stop...

brownstone.org
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
www.cnbc.com
www.riscassi-davis.com

Western medicine is in it's last hay day. Trust has eroded to epic levels and you morons are trying to make a political -------- out of three people dying while big pharma kills millions.. Just STFU already, you have no credibility - Especially you, fake doctor with the pDh.

"Western medicine is in it's last hay day."

The GOP is a Death Cult.

STFU you f^*%ing idiot. You don't have enough knowledge to trust or not you stupid f^*%.

The brownstone institute lol

What a f%^*ing worthless s^*%heap.

Hey dumbf^*%, now do cause of death and death rates from before modern medicine. Hell, even the early 20th century.

Throw in life expectancy while you're at it.

F^*%ing moron.

Western medicine is in it's last hay day.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You're perfectly free to avoid all of it, including ambulances and hospitals.

Please do.

trying to make a political -------- out of 3 people dying.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You'll do anything to defend Trump and MAGA.

You are not a human being.

JC, Lfthand:

you really are an ------- with low IQ. All this time I thought you were just trolling us.
Reminds me of Goatman, an oil rig worker who acted every day as if he was an effing polymath on every subject, a Cliff Clavin of epic proportions. You on the other hand, aren't even "one" math, much less a polymath.

Hey dumbf^*%, now do cause of death and death rates from before modern medicine. Hell, even the early 20th century.

Throw in life expectancy while you're at it.

F^*%ing moron.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-15 03:33 PM | Reply | Flag

dUhHhHhH cUz A lOt oF pEoPlE uSeD tO dIe!!!!!!!

Hey Co@ksucKer, do 3 people now. You ---- your pants over 3 people while millions die from prescribed medicine. I guess the "do no harm" part missed your dumb @$$. Stick to the frat party and lizard lounge at the truck stop.

"You ---- your pants over 3 people while millions die from prescribed medicine."

But these three died because they weren't prescribed the Measles vaccine, smart guy.

You think we don't know that "medical error" is a common cause of death.

You really think we didn't already know that!

Three deaths from measles according to the article.
#4 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Not a big deal, right?

Thanks for unwittingly confirming exactly the point the article is making.

Hurry back to the local vet for a refill of your ivermectin.

Idiot.

Hey, lfthndthrds,

You may be unaware, but this isn't just about three people dying. Let me drop a little AI knowledge on you:

"Measles is considered the most contagious disease, with one infected person able to spread the virus to 12 to 14 others. It spreads easily through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes."

Prompt being "most contagious disease." I didn't even mention measles. So what do you think will happen when combined with this other tidbit from the AI gods:

"The measles death rate varies by region and population, but in the U.S., it is about 1 to 3 deaths per 1,000 cases. Globally, in areas with high malnutrition and poor healthcare, the fatality rate can be as high as 10% to 30% for those with complications."

And when our ERs are saturated with the sick, you think the mortality rate will improve?

And more to the point, when should we worry about this?

Now? When we can still nip it in the bud? Or should we wait till it becomes a pandemic and we're forced to shut down our economy?

-Or should we wait till it becomes a pandemic and we're forced to shut down our economy?

what? a measles pandemic that shuts down our economy?

what? a measles pandemic that shuts down our economy?
#24 | Posted by eberly

Here you go:
A US army-wide measles outbreak in 1917-18 resulted in more than 95,000 cases and more than 3000 deaths.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Unlike when folks were exposed to measles in childhood, resulting in gradual exposure of the population to the virus, we now run the risk of many folks with no immunity contracting it at once. That sets the stage for much more serious results.

"The death rate in the 1920s was around 30% for measles pneumonia. People who are at high risk for complications are infants and children aged less than 5 years; adults aged over 20 years; pregnant women; people with compromised immune systems"
en.wikipedia.org

Any of that sound worrisome? But yeah, let's let this run its course. What's the worst that could happen? And it's not like we have any alternatives available to us.

a measles pandemic that shuts down our economy?

#24 | Posted by eberly

Given that MAGA, for ugly reasons we can accurately guess at, is on the side of disease then why not?

Western medicine is in it's last hay day.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds

The word is "heyday. One word that has nothing to do with hay.

Did you even graduate from high school?

He never attended.

"Education is for snobs!"

-Any of that sound worrisome?

maybe it should be but I'm not as worried about it as COVID since we've had a pretty effective vaccine for the past 55 years or so......

Again, you're really worried our economy will be impacted similarly to COVID?

we've had a pretty effective vaccine for the past 55 years or so......

And yet, morons are choosing not to get vaccinated.

It use to just be a fringe community. And perhaps the media is overreacting.

But it seems like the MAGA Party is embracing anti vaccine rhetoric.

maybe it should be but I'm not as worried about it as COVID since we've had a pretty effective vaccine for the past 55 years or so...... Again, you're really worried our economy will be impacted similarly to COVID?
#29 | Posted by eberly

Two doses is 97% effective, so yay for that. 91% of Americans have received the vaccine. So 9% are still at risk there, with another 25% of the vaccinated due for a booster (~88 million).

Similar to COVID? No shutdown at the Fed level, as the current administration will be happy to let half our nation die.

But pandemics put a damper on spending and supply chains, and economies have faltered for far less. So maybe we should head that off with the tools we have at our disposal. Except we have a raving loon in charge of healthcare. Put into that position at the behest of the malicious, amoral POS currently occupying the Oval Office (when he's not busy enriching himself with our tax dollars spent at his own golf resorts).

The word is "heyday. One word that has nothing to do with hay.

Did you even graduate from high school?

#27 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-15 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe tell autocorrect, raetard. Did you graduate commonsense?

You ---- your pants over 3 people while millions die from prescribed medicine. I guess the "do no harm" part missed your dumb @$$. Stick to the frat party and lizard lounge at the truck stop.

#19 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Jesus Christ you're such a simpleton stupid f^*%.

I already stated what the real issue you walking patch of human flotsam.

That you can't understand it isn't my problem.

Now stfu you f^*%ing idiot.

Measles can't become a pandemic.

It's already endemic in most places around the world.

Worst case scenario here is we have enough epidemics to revert back to endemic status.

It's that backwards slide that ignorant pieces of s^%# like lfthndcuck can't grasp or are so backwards themselves they don't care.

@#34 ... Worst case scenario here is we have enough epidemics to revert back to endemic status. ...

CDC struggling to fight raging measles outbreak after deep funding, staff cuts
arstechnica.com

... In first 4 months of the year, US measles cases are over double last year's count. ...

In now-rarified comments from experts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, an agency official on Tuesday evening said the explosive measles outbreak mushrooming out of West Texas will require "significant financial resources" to control and that the agency is already struggling to keep up.

"We are scrapping to find the resources and personnel needed to provide support to Texas and other jurisdictions," said David Sugerman, the CDC's lead on its measles team. The agency has been devastated by brutal cuts to CDC staff and funding, including a clawback of more than $11 billion in public health funds that largely went to state health departments.

Sugerman noted that the response to measles outbreaks is generally expensive. "The estimates are that each measles case can be $30,000 to $50,000 for public health response work"and that adds up quite quickly." The costs go to various responses, including on-the-ground response teams, vaccine doses and vaccination clinics, case reporting, contact tracing, mitigation plans, infection prevention, data systems, and other technical assistance to state health departments.

In the past, the CDC would provide media briefings and other public comments on the responses to such an extraordinarily large and fast-moving outbreak. However, Sugerman's comments are among the first publicly made by CDC experts under the current administration. He spoke about the outbreak at the very end of an all-day public meeting of the agency's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), which discussed a broad range of vaccine and vaccine-preventable diseases over the course of the day.

The meeting was initially planned for February but was abruptly canceled and then rescheduled upon the Trump administration coming into office, including the new health secretary and longtime anti-vaccine advocate, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. But, despite concern for ACIP's future, the meeting proceeded more or less as usual on Tuesday and continues today with additional topics. The last 30 minutes of yesterday's agenda was set aside for an update on the measles outbreak.

"I find it absolutely devastating that we're having this update today," ACIP chair Keipp Talbot said at the outset of Sugerman's update. "There's no reason why we have healthy children dying of measles in the US when this vaccine is amazing," Talbot said, referencing the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine. "It's highly effective and has very long-lasting immunity." Two doses of MMR offer 97 percent protection against the virus, which is among the most infectious viruses known. ...